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Knowing Jesus as the Father is only by the revelation of the one holy spirit, Jesus, the truth in the one true house, Jesus, and in the one true church, Jesus, and in the one true kingdom, Jesus, the one true spiritual and glorious body, Jesus, in whom there is only one true and living faith, Jesus, and one true baptism done by the one true Lord, Jesus, with his own blood on the cross, during which his one body made sin and dead by the cross, along with his sinful members named Jesus, was born again from death, thru cleansing with the blood named Jesus, the father of souls that are born again from sin and death into righteousness and life, Jesus, the name of the only true blood that gives life to a dead soul....rejoice and count yourself blessed and alive only if you understand these things of the spirit, Jesus, and depart from all the religions, churches, ministries, fellowships, missions, traditions and assemblies of people claiming to be worshipping the creator, Jesus, called God by some earthly languages.
Well I will say this, I dont have a "dead spirit", I love and enjoy my life every single day, I`m honest, transparent, and I treat people with kindness and respect, Ill even listen to your opinions on eternity and all of this without believing a God exists. Now I dont think its impossible but due to scientific evidence regarding areas such as the origins of the universe and evolution show us that it may also be otherwise. I myself was only born once and I`m proud to say I have departed from all religions, churches, ministries, missions, and traditions.
Re: HEARING AND DOING THE WORD OF GOD
Criskey,
my kind, generous, and loving brother in Christ i would really like to not only share something with you in regards to the cross i carry for my Saviour, and my Heavenly Father... i would seek ur consideration and reflection on the word of God and prayer to Him and then if you would please if you decide to let me share, then share with me what the Holy Spirit brought to your attention for me. I hope that you will write to me in my mail because i feel if anyone would be understanding it would be you, and beautiful words and understanding that you have recieved of our Heavenly Father's heart... thank you for your time and keep encouraging others!
Criskey,
my kind, generous, and loving brother in Christ i would really like to not only share something with you in regards to the cross i carry for my Saviour, and my Heavenly Father... i would seek ur consideration and reflection on the word of God and prayer to Him and then if you would please if you decide to let me share, then share with me what the Holy Spirit brought to your attention for me. I hope that you will write to me in my mail because i feel if anyone would be understanding it would be you, and beautiful words and understanding that you have recieved of our Heavenly Father's heart... thank you for your time and keep encouraging others!
C
Well, if you think you will be justified before yourself or before God, whom you don't think exists, then you are still in a religion of conscience. Believe only that your soul has life by faith alone in the blood named Jesus and depart from all religions and churches and ministries and fellowships and missions traditions of the world.
Hmmmm, where to begin?
John 1 (ESV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
32. And John bore witness: "I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33. I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34. And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”
John 16 (ESV)
25 “I have said these things to you in figures of speech. The hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figures of speech but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26 In that day you will ask in my name, and I do not say to you that I will ask the Father on your behalf; 27 for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God. 28 I came from the Father and have come into the world, and now I am leaving the world and going to the Father".
John 17 (ESV)
1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 "And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
Etc, ...
The Bible clearly teaches that God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) are one in being (one in essence), but three in Persons (Personalities, functions, roles...).
Jesus came from, and returned to the Father (seated at the right hand ...) and sent the Comforter (Holy Spirit) to be with us and to reside with born again believers.
To claim that we should ALL leave churches and stop reading the Bible (other than some specific scriptures??) in a LIE!
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life (and has many other names...) but he is not the Father, nor the Holy Spirit... He is part of the Trinity.... but Jesus is not all of them.
John 1 (ESV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
32. And John bore witness: "I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33. I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34. And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”
John 16 (ESV)
25 “I have said these things to you in figures of speech. The hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figures of speech but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26 In that day you will ask in my name, and I do not say to you that I will ask the Father on your behalf; 27 for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God. 28 I came from the Father and have come into the world, and now I am leaving the world and going to the Father".
John 17 (ESV)
1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 "And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
Etc, ...
The Bible clearly teaches that God (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) are one in being (one in essence), but three in Persons (Personalities, functions, roles...).
Jesus came from, and returned to the Father (seated at the right hand ...) and sent the Comforter (Holy Spirit) to be with us and to reside with born again believers.
To claim that we should ALL leave churches and stop reading the Bible (other than some specific scriptures??) in a LIE!
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life (and has many other names...) but he is not the Father, nor the Holy Spirit... He is part of the Trinity.... but Jesus is not all of them.
Hi Criskey, I am not religious or a member of any church or world religion.
I am a Christian.
To clarify, that means (for me), that the God (YHWH/Jehova) of the Bible (Old and New Testaments) is my Heavenly Father, that Jesus (Yeshua) of the Bible is my Saviour and Lord, and that the Holy Spirit (sent by Jesus, from the Father) lives in me (as a Temple of the Holy Spirit).
I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb (Jesus)... ".. but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies". (Romans 8:23).
See, I knew there was a good reason for choosing Romans_8 as my username!
Be blessed in Jesus name!
I am a Christian.
To clarify, that means (for me), that the God (YHWH/Jehova) of the Bible (Old and New Testaments) is my Heavenly Father, that Jesus (Yeshua) of the Bible is my Saviour and Lord, and that the Holy Spirit (sent by Jesus, from the Father) lives in me (as a Temple of the Holy Spirit).
I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb (Jesus)... ".. but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies". (Romans 8:23).
See, I knew there was a good reason for choosing Romans_8 as my username!
Be blessed in Jesus name!
M
I disagree Jesus is FAther to the mankind because without him being mediator between God and man how could he show us the Father without being a Father to us? Another thing if Abraham is the Father of faith how much more is the Son of God Father? Of course the Lord is one with his father but he is Father to us so is the Spirit you dont have to have it spelt out point blank in a bible verse to be biblical truth if you get the biblical from other verses for example the Spirit of the Lord or the Holy Spirit is the sword of the Spirit notices it says the Sword OF the Spirit but theres obviously not a verse thats spells that out to us "the Holy Spirit is the Sword " but that doesnt mean he isnt . Another thing the prodigal son who is the Father in the story of the prodigal son is it just Jesus' Father Lord God Almighty or is it Jesus as well and the Spirit too? Dont you think the Saviour Jesus who is the Greatest would be running to meet his kids who turned from him but are now found in his arms?
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I have only three questions for the OP:
1. How do you witness to the unsaved with all that lingo? Certainly they must scratch their heads at your religious jargon. Are you real to real people?
2. Also, seeing as you appear to be against churches, how do you follow up on those you lead to Jesus?
3. Do you disciple and mentor them into spiritual maturity?
I think you miss the forest for the trees.
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1. How do you witness to the unsaved with all that lingo? Certainly they must scratch their heads at your religious jargon. Are you real to real people?
2. Also, seeing as you appear to be against churches, how do you follow up on those you lead to Jesus?
3. Do you disciple and mentor them into spiritual maturity?
I think you miss the forest for the trees.
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I disagree with your use of word.
Jesus is the embodiment of the message of God in human form.
But every word spoken by God is also part of the message as well.
We are not good at the idea.
Our words are often so badly constructed, easily spoken and then changed.
I used to think Jesus was talking about love in our hearts, as if love is the highest issue.
Maybe the word is the highest issue, the putting together of ideas, expression of reality, the interrelationship of things.
A physicist suggested it is possible the whole of creation is a mathematical construction, a pure set of ideas, rules, logic.
Jesus called His words eternal. Maybe in an odd way things are the other way round than we perceive.
In another way God is expressed through everything and Jesus was part of all creation,
Jesus is the embodiment of the message of God in human form.
But every word spoken by God is also part of the message as well.
We are not good at the idea.
Our words are often so badly constructed, easily spoken and then changed.
I used to think Jesus was talking about love in our hearts, as if love is the highest issue.
Maybe the word is the highest issue, the putting together of ideas, expression of reality, the interrelationship of things.
A physicist suggested it is possible the whole of creation is a mathematical construction, a pure set of ideas, rules, logic.
Jesus called His words eternal. Maybe in an odd way things are the other way round than we perceive.
In another way God is expressed through everything and Jesus was part of all creation,