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slave

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can a dead man sin ?
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Can you walk away from the one whom gives you life? How powerful has God granted your will? Did Jesus destroy Sin, or the relationship to Sin by way of conquering Sin, not changing His judgement on Sin, making His record of sins capable for us to be enabled. Depending on our faithfulness thru righteousness, we are not the one who fights our battles Jesus who is all and in all does, as we remain in Him, and victory is inabled for He conquered death on the Cross and intercedes for us we turn away from sins successfully. That's an ongoing comment.. Spiritual Warfare is no less tedious an adventure even when we can win it, for we must still obey in faith Our Lord who gives us victory in it. Sin was Gods job to conquer, and that He has done, thus, because He has done what we could not do, God has gifted us with Christ Jesus, whom has conquered Sin so to also allow us to conquer sins as well, regardless of His finishing work at hand.
 
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slave said:


* "Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say rejoice!" (Philippians 4:4).
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Scripture tells us who it is that is a Child of God, any your opinion does not have the authority of God’s Written Word.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

One who sins is not a Child of God!


Jesus is God, and his Words are the Commandments that Jesus said we would be judged by, not the Commandments of the Old Law.
Read what Jesus told us. Notice he said those who did not keep his words would be judged by his Word that he spoke. We are not going to be judged by any of the words said by Old Testament Prophet.


(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already; the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”


The Words Jesus spoke are recorded, any way the one’s he has for us to live, in the New Testament Bible.

Paul told us that we are dead to the Old Law

(Romans 7:4) “That is why you, my brothers, who through the body of Christ are now dead to the Law, can now give yourselves to another husband, to him who rose from the dead to make us productive for God.”

(Matthew 5:17) “Do not imagine that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete them. I tell you solemnly, till heaven and earth disappear, not one dot, not one little stroke, shall disappear from the Law until its purpose is achieved.”

No we do not need to keep the Ten Commandments, as they were written. Jesus summed up the Ten Commandments.

(Matthew 22:39-40) “What is the greatest commandment of the Law? Jesus said, ‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second resembles it: You must love your neighbor us yourself. On these two commandments hang the whole Law,”
 
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slave

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Johnlove said:
Scripture tells us who it is that is a Child of God, any your opinion does not have the authority of God’s Written Word.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

One who sins is not a Child of God!


Jesus is God, and his Words are the Commandments that Jesus said we would be judged by, not the Commandments of the Old Law.
Read what Jesus told us. Notice he said those who did not keep his words would be judged by his Word that he spoke. We are not going to be judged by any of the words said by Old Testament Prophet.


(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already; the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”


The Words Jesus spoke are recorded, any way the one’s he has for us to live, in the New Testament Bible.

Paul told us that we are dead to the Old Law

(Romans 7:4) “That is why you, my brothers, who through the body of Christ are now dead to the Law, can now give yourselves to another husband, to him who rose from the dead to make us productive for God.”

(Matthew 5:17) “Do not imagine that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete them. I tell you solemnly, till heaven and earth disappear, not one dot, not one little stroke, shall disappear from the Law until its purpose is achieved.”

No we do not need to keep the Ten Commandments, as they were written. Jesus summed up the Ten Commandments.

(Matthew 22:39-40) “What is the greatest commandment of the Law? Jesus said, ‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second resembles it: You must love your neighbor us yourself. On these two commandments hang the whole Law,”
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Reconcile:Restore/reunite friendly (or right) relations between.

So based on (Colossians 1:20); and (2 Corinthians 5:19) just to name two Scriptures -- "Of course one who sins is a child of God, thats why He came to earth, to reconcile the lost children back to Himself. And aren't you and I glad He did? For we were both messed up bad -- right? Or is that just my testimony?

My point is the Bible teaches that Jesus DIDN'T come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world thru Him might be saved. (John 3:16). He came to love sinners before they should be by our standards in other words. "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." (Luke 5:32). You see that's what the Pharisees would have done; saved the righteous. But God's love is grander than ours. It is unconditional, unlike ours. It is freely given and ironically, without merit to be gained.

Do you mind if I ask, "Are you more excited about the life and hope and deliverance God bestows in us by way of Christ Jesus, or are you more excited about showing the pitfalls of sins in ones life (the righteous creed)? How did Jesus come and act?" Now, don't get me wrong there is a season for all of Scriptures points, that should always be our loyalty; to the whole of the gospel.

But what drives you is my question? We are ordained by God, right? to be Ambassadors for Christ, to help nurture people who have chosen Christ to maturity in discussing and discovering truth alongside people in discipleship training, but isn't the point of a disciple to bring light and be the salt of the earth? We are not enabling peoples lives Christ is right? Do you still have a heart of Joy? Is this your heart of brokenness for your lost compadres? Obedience will happen as He first loves us and we love Him back, "Love one another AS I HAVE LOVED YOU." "Lord, give us grace in unconditionally loving people and wrap all we say and do in the balances of Your truths found in Your Word, help us offer Your hope with grace, love, gentleness, and kindness, in Jesus' name --Amen."
 
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slave

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#124
Johnlove said:
Scripture tells us who it is that is a Child of God, any your opinion does not have the authority of God’s Written Word.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

One who sins is not a Child of God!


Jesus is God, and his Words are the Commandments that Jesus said we would be judged by, not the Commandments of the Old Law.
Read what Jesus told us. Notice he said those who did not keep his words would be judged by his Word that he spoke. We are not going to be judged by any of the words said by Old Testament Prophet.


(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already; the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”


The Words Jesus spoke are recorded, any way the one’s he has for us to live, in the New Testament Bible.

Paul told us that we are dead to the Old Law

(Romans 7:4) “That is why you, my brothers, who through the body of Christ are now dead to the Law, can now give yourselves to another husband, to him who rose from the dead to make us productive for God.”

(Matthew 5:17) “Do not imagine that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete them. I tell you solemnly, till heaven and earth disappear, not one dot, not one little stroke, shall disappear from the Law until its purpose is achieved.”

No we do not need to keep the Ten Commandments, as they were written. Jesus summed up the Ten Commandments.

(Matthew 22:39-40) “What is the greatest commandment of the Law? Jesus said, ‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second resembles it: You must love your neighbor us yourself. On these two commandments hang the whole Law,”
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"And the truth will set you free...If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." (John 8:32,36). Reconcile others to stay in Him, the pressure is off of you to make them do anything. God will call them to be faithful towards His will, simply encourage people toward God.:).
 
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Johnlove

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slave said:
Reconcile:Restore/reunite friendly (or right) relations between.

So based on (Colossians 1:20); and (2 Corinthians 5:19) just to name two Scriptures -- "Of course one who sins is a child of God, thats why He came to earth, to reconcile the lost children back to Himself. And aren't you and I glad He did? For we were both messed up bad -- right? Or is that just my testimony?

My point is the Bible teaches that Jesus DIDN'T come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world thru Him might be saved. (John 3:16). He came to love sinners before they should be by our standards in other words. "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." (Luke 5:32). You see that's what the Pharisees would have done; saved the righteous. But God's love is grander than ours. It is unconditional, unlike ours. It is freely given and ironically, without merit to be gained.

Do you mind if I ask, "Are you more excited about the life and hope and deliverance God bestows in us by way of Christ Jesus, or are you more excited about showing the pitfalls of sins in ones life (the righteous creed)? How did Jesus come and act?" Now, don't get me wrong there is a season for all of Scriptures points, that should always be our loyalty; to the whole of the gospel.

But what drives you is my question? We are ordained by God, right? to be Ambassadors for Christ, to help nurture people who have chosen Christ to maturity in discussing and discovering truth alongside people in discipleship training, but isn't the point of a disciple to bring light and be the salt of the earth? We are not enabling peoples lives Christ is right? Do you still have a heart of Joy? Is this your heart of brokenness for your lost compadres? Obedience will happen as He first loves us and we love Him back, "Love one another AS I HAVE LOVED YOU." "Lord, give us grace in unconditionally loving people and wrap all we say and do in the balances of Your truths found in Your Word, help us offer Your hope with grace, love, gentleness, and kindness, in Jesus' name --Amen."
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Yes you have your opinion of why Jesus came, but Jesus tells us why he came, and just what it is we will be judged by.

(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”

Notice Jesus said if one does not keep his Words he or she will be judged by them on the last day.
 
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Johnlove

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#126
slave said:
"And the truth will set you free...If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." (John 8:32,36). Reconcile others to stay in Him, the pressure is off of you to make them do anything. God will call them to be faithful towards His will, simply encourage people toward God.:).
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(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
 
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