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wanderer6059

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Would you rather we lie to them? Or tell them the truth? We COULD have told her that she'll never get a job, never get a house of their own, never do anything..But that would be a lie. You must be an EMT or cop or something, because you are wayyy too emotional right now. You're even more upset than the OP was. And if people can't take hearing the truth, which for this OP, is that she can't blame God for her hardships right now. It's not His fault, nor her fault either. It's just how life goes sometimes, ya gotta roll where the ball goes. As long as she keeps faith in God, he will bring her through this. :) And also, members here CAN read threads while they're not logged in. Maybe she did just that, and is thinking about all that's been said.
EMT, ok i guess by your logic next time a mother suffocates her baby in her sleep ill just walk up throw the dead body at her and say "hey, you killed your baby" then add something like "at least you din't know the kid as long a so ans so in the next room, they lost there 5 year old". its not about not telling them the truth blue, i can tell her the truth without putting her off, everyone can. people who offend others by telling them the "truth" are really just covering for there insulting and rude behavior, brought about by there emotions. i know EMT's that have it worse than most on this forum, but they still have the care and compassion to look past everything they and the person has to see how to show the TRUTH that is the real LOVE of Christ to them.
 

RickyZ

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Matthew 19: [SUP]16 [/SUP]And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” [SUP]17 [/SUP]And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” [SUP]18 [/SUP]He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, [SUP]19 [/SUP]Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” [SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

[SUP]22 [/SUP]When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.




Jesus didn't hold back the truth to salve people's feelings. If the truth caused them to walk away unhappy, the truth He still told.

And while I think we could have maybe tread a little lighter in this case, I think the fact that so many discerned a flaw in the op's attitude says something.

What gets me now is that we are still arguing over the fact that we argue! Imagine coming back to find that!
 

tourist

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#43
Hopefully, you will find understanding and support this time around. I pray that God delivers you from the hard situation that y0u are in. Please know that you are not alone in suffering from depression. Glad to have you as part of our family. Welcome to CC.
 
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Hopefully, you will find understanding and support this time around. I pray that God delivers you from the hard situation that y0u are in. Please know that you are not alone in suffering from depression. Glad to have you as part of our family. Welcome to CC.

Awesome living for Jesus and inspiring others to Him as a result, love it!
 

blue_ladybug

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Well, this isn't even comparable to the OP's situation. Killing a baby is a far cry from having money or job problems. Now how about we all stop derailing this thread, so when the OP comes back she won't have to read all this. And you DO sound like an EMT. :)



EMT, ok i guess by your logic next time a mother suffocates her baby in her sleep ill just walk up throw the dead body at her and say "hey, you killed your baby" then add something like "at least you din't know the kid as long a so ans so in the next room, they lost there 5 year old". its not about not telling them the truth blue, i can tell her the truth without putting her off, everyone can. people who offend others by telling them the "truth" are really just covering for there insulting and rude behavior, brought about by there emotions. i know EMT's that have it worse than most on this forum, but they still have the care and compassion to look past everything they and the person has to see how to show the TRUTH that is the real LOVE of Christ to them.
 
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Ariel82

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Will y'all stop fighting and "rebuking" each other?

There is some really good post on this thread, but it's lost because of the screaming match of hurt pride.

You don't need to justify your words.

You don't need to defend yourself.

God sees your heart. If you posted out of love, then God can fix anything we say or do.

We and our words don't save anyone. (that probably hurts people's pride right there,)

God saves.

God's children have His Holy Spirit to say "hey listen to that person, they are speaking words I want you to hear." or "that wasn't quite right, search the Bible for the truth and pray"

Pride is thinking God can't talk for Himself and help His children.

(yeah I know this post is a rebuke and someone is sure to call me a hypocrite, but seriously can't we just pray together and leave it in God's hands?)
 
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NotmebutHim

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Let us neither be like Job's wife and friends, nor like the derelict watchman described in Ezekiel.

Tough love is a delicate thing. We have to be both lovingly tough and tough with our love.

Blessings to all. :)
 

wanderer6059

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Matthew 19: [SUP]16 [/SUP]And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” [SUP]17 [/SUP]And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” [SUP]18 [/SUP]He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, [SUP]19 [/SUP]Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” [SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

[SUP]22 [/SUP]When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.




Jesus didn't hold back the truth to salve people's feelings. If the truth caused them to walk away unhappy, the truth He still told.

And while I think we could have maybe tread a little lighter in this case, I think the fact that so many discerned a flaw in the op's attitude says something.

What gets me now is that we are still arguing over the fact that we argue! Imagine coming back to find that!
amen to that... whats the point.
 

wanderer6059

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Well, this isn't even comparable to the OP's situation. Killing a baby is a far cry from having money or job problems. Now how about we all stop derailing this thread, so when the OP comes back she won't have to read all this. And you DO sound like an EMT. :)
and yes i am an EMT, or was. i'm sorry blue, its just i have been trained to provide not just physical but emotional care to people through my old job, i know what the hard truth will produce, and sometimes its really ugly...
 

wanderer6059

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Will y'all stop fighting and "rebuking" each other?

There is some really good post on this thread, but it's lost because of the screaming match of hurt pride.

You don't need to justify your words.

You don't need to defend yourself.

God sees your heart. If you posted out of love, then God can fix anything we say or do.

We and our words don't save anyone. (that probably hurts people's pride right there,)

God saves.

God's children have His Holy Spirit to say "hey listen to that person, they are speaking words I want you to hear." or "that wasn't quite right, search the Bible for the truth and pray"

Pride is thinking God can't talk for Himself and help His children.

(yeah I know this post is a rebuke and someone is sure to call me a hypocrite, but seriously can't we just pray together and leave it in God's hands?)
I REBUKE YOU, FOR REBUKING, MY REBUKES OF OTHERS, YOU HYPOCRITE!
 

blue_ladybug

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Matthew 19: [SUP]16 [/SUP]And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?” [SUP]17 [/SUP]And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” [SUP]18 [/SUP]He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, [SUP]19 [/SUP]Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [SUP]20 [/SUP]The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” [SUP]21 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

[SUP]22 [/SUP]When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.




Jesus didn't hold back the truth to salve people's feelings. If the truth caused them to walk away unhappy, the truth He still told.

And while I think we could have maybe tread a little lighter in this case, I think the fact that so many discerned a flaw in the op's attitude says something.

What gets me now is that we are still arguing over the fact that we argue! Imagine coming back to find that!


The red highlighted portion is what Ricky's point is..


amen to that... whats the point.
 

Fenner

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This is my first day actually using this sight, so I don't know exactly where to post this.
All I want to say is to please be considerate when you respond to someone's problem.

Long story short, every several months or so, I become extremely depressed about our situation. We've been spinning our tires for years with so much prayer and effort put into improving it, but nothing changes.
In my incredibly depressed state, I went here for help.
I described my situation as briefly as I could, and, in a nutshell, my replies were:
"You're being selfish."
"It's not that bad."
"My situation is worse than yours."

I didn't read past this because my eyes were already full of tears, and I don't care to read the rest now.
I just want to say that this is never how you should respond to someone who is depressed.

I came here looking for Jesus. He never said,"Others have it worse than you," or, "Look at all the nice stuff you have," or, "You're not good enough." When there was a need, He met it. All I needed was a shoulder to cry on.

If I was suicidal, these comments could have driven me over the edge.
Don't assume anything about someone's character or Christian walk. People don't come here to be judged. Let God judge them. While they are on this Earth, be a comforter. Be Christ to someone.

A simple "I'll pray for you," or, "That sounds rough," would have gone a long way.
I know you specifically didn't reply anything rude, but just remember that people are human. Sometimes we need a little help.

Kayleigh I'm sorry you experienced that and I agree thoughtful replies would've been much better than the I have it worse then you replies. We all have to deal with something and we can't fully know what or where someone else is in their life. I think some just don't know what to say.

I hope you keep posting sting and get to know the people in this community. There really are a lot of kind people on here. God Bless you.
 
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Kayleigh I'm sorry you experienced that and I agree thoughtful replies would've been much better than the I have it worse then you replies. We all have to deal with something and we can't fully know what or where someone else is in their life. I think some just don't know what to say.

I hope you keep posting and get to know the people in this community. There really are a lot of kind people on here. God Bless you.
Awesome work in Christ Fenner, encouragement all round.
 
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and yes i am an EMT, or was. i'm sorry blue, its just i have been trained to provide not just physical but emotional care to people through my old job, i know what the hard truth will produce, and sometimes its really ugly...
Sometimes it's what? /eyeballs you