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I can set up a skype thing. Or I hope I can anyway, LOL If not I can get my gran-son to help me out. I may can get out and about like I use to, however, that was a blessing in many ways. Long story, so if you want the whole thing, lets make sure everyone doesn't mind the long read.
Well, there is no rush as I have just started my mission today! So lets give it some time, especially for me to get my thoughts in order. So I can be understood by young and old alike. Also, you mentioned you taught or teach the Torah! I'd like to more about this, what is it exactly?
 

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That particular post I felt you posted it for serpentdove who was spreading negative energy around. And making me feel as though I needed to confess all my sins to her and then ask her for forgiveness. As if that would have made God forgive me. So that was what I meant. You didn't offend me in anyway at all.
I am glad to hear that. Though I must confess, I think in my heart, I meant to strike out against the serpent, in hopes of driving it from the garden so to speak.
You my friend, I see as someone to ride the river with.
 

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Well, there is no rush as I have just started my mission today! So lets give it some time, especially for me to get my thoughts in order. So I can be understood by young and old alike. Also, you mentioned you taught or teach the Torah! I'd like to more about this, what is it exactly?
The Torah is the first 5 books of the Bible, some times called the Books of Moses. My understanding of it is some what different than most folks. You see I studied under Orthodox Rabbi's, for a long time. That is where I got in the habit of useing the Hebrew phrase HaShem, for the one post call God. The phrase is translated into English as THE NAME. It is used by the Jewish people to keep from placing the wrong name with any given attribute. This is a part of that really long story.
 
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God does indeed accept us as we are and from that point on we begin to change more into Christ's likeness.
Thats exactly, why I'm here all my life I've dealt with the struggle of feeling God hates me because I have same sex attraction. Thats because the pastor didn't go on to say, that God doesn't like any sins and he gave us his word to help us control all of are emotions and feelings, urges, whatever have you. The very point of the Bible to me personally, is that God has emotions too and thats why the Bible pretty much touches or talks about all emotions. And I'm hoping I can get more people that struggle with what I struggle with or struggle with whatever, to understand that no judgement involved. Because I cannot tell you how I used to cry truly believing he hated me, and not the sin itself. But as I got older, he showed me he loved me anyway despite all of my sins and transgressions!!! And he has helped me and continues to help me see the light! And he is just MAGNIFICENT!
 

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Thank you, and after all this time of struggling with it I finally know for sure he loves me and all my imperfections.
Thank you, and after all this time of struggling with it I finally know for sure he loves me STILL WITH all my imperfections.


( AMEN!...)
 
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I'm hoping to find someone to relate to. A little about me well, I'm from the US I struggle with same sex attraction but have recently learned after all these years God does not hate me and indeed just wants me to control my feelings. And that he also, really just doesn't like any sin and really does seem to know what's best for me. For the most part, I have a heart of gold and really just want to talk about how God accepts us all for who we are and makes us who he wants us the be. And how is love and mercy is so wonderful. I'm also on a search just to see if God has made a man on this Earth who is not controlled by his desires but one who actually loves God as much as I do. Basically, just seeing if there are actually gentle, kind, God fearing men on this Earth. But mostly, I just want to discuss God and get other people's thoughts and interpretations on the Bible.
We are all a work in progress. God bless you!
 
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The Torah is the first 5 books of the Bible, some times called the Books of Moses. My understanding of it is some what different than most folks. You see I studied under Orthodox Rabbi's, for a long time. That is where I got in the habit of useing the Hebrew phrase HaShem, for the one post call God. The phrase is translated into English as THE NAME. It is used by the Jewish people to keep from placing the wrong name with any given attribute. This is a part of that really long story.
Well, thank you I literally just downloaded a pdf copy of it and will begin reading it after I get some rest! It Actually a cool little way for me to slowly begin to read the Bible, So thanks for that! And something tells me if I rode the river with you, you'd never let me fall in! So for that, I'd never let you fall in either. And I am truly humbled to have found people so amazing. To see that the world isn't just full of vile and evil, that good God fearing people still exist in this world! You are now my brother for life!
 
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God does not hate me and indeed just wants me to control my feelings. And that he also, really just doesn't like any sin and really does seem to know what's best for me. God accepts us all for who we are and makes us who he wants us the be.
Welcome! That is SO true. I am humbled by your sweet honesty and love for the Lord.
 
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Honestly, I reported her like three times today, just because she seemed to be upsetting you so. And while, I can stand the rain, I'd never let my brother or sister stand in it if they didn't want to.
It was not so much not being able to take it,it was the incredibly hurtful nasty things they were saying. I felt that it was actually a man pretending to be a woman,Lady Blue thought so too. One man who was having serious issues in his marriage was accused of being an adulterer,which he never said he cheated on his wife,they were just having issues. A thread in the ladies forum where very personal information was shared was told they were a sinner. And he/she kept it up through the whole thread. Their MO was to just in a thread,get the information on the OP and then bash them through the whole thread. So Im glad they were banned because they were using the Gospel to harm others and look self righteous themselves.Thanks for reporting too though I think we all pushed it enough to get mods attention.
 
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It was not so much not being able to take it,it was the incredibly hurtful nasty things they were saying. I felt that it was actually a man pretending to be a woman,Lady Blue thought so too. One man who was having serious issues in his marriage was accused of being an adulterer,which he never said he cheated on his wife,they were just having issues. A thread in the ladies forum where very personal information was shared was told they were a sinner. And he/she kept it up through the whole thread. Their MO was to just in a thread,get the information on the OP and then bash them through the whole thread. So Im glad they were banned because they were using the Gospel to harm others and look self righteous themselves.Thanks for reporting too though I think we all pushed it enough to get mods attention.
That makes me sad, so I'm glad I reported her now! And if that person says they know and believe in god like they were portraying, then theres no lesson that we could teach him/her, better than God will teach him/her. And I still pray God has mercy on him or her whenever it's their turn to endure pain and suffering, because clearly they haven't endured pain or suffering yet or maybe they've endured too much and can't help but pass it around to others. So regardless, I'll pray for them anyway, and I'm happy You're happy and that they can't hurt anyone else with their words!
 
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Welcome! That is SO true. I am humbled by your sweet honesty and love for the Lord.
Thank you, I feel like for the most part he wants us to show people how imperfect we are, and that he loves us and wants to help us change and thats it. But some christian folk go around pretending as they are perfect, scared to confess or share their sins with the group. But certainly, have no problems spreading everyone else sins around town! Thats all I'm saying :cool:
 

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Well, thank you I literally just downloaded a pdf copy of it and will begin reading it after I get some rest! It Actually a cool little way for me to slowly begin to read the Bible, So thanks for that! And something tells me if I rode the river with you, you'd never let me fall in! So for that, I'd never let you fall in either. And I am truly humbled to have found people so amazing. To see that the world isn't just full of vile and evil, that good God fearing people still exist in this world! You are now my brother for life!
The whole thing about rideing the river, is that if a person gets in to deep, you are there to pull them out. Everyone works together on the river, or everyone gets wet.
The day you turned your life over to Yeshua, you became my family. Even if I didn't know your name, or that you were even out their.
Any way, as you read through the Torah, let me know if anything doesn't set well with you, and I will do my best to explain it. May will say it is cut and dry, it isn't however. One seemingly small thought, is often meant to open the door to a much wider understanding. Like Love your neighbor, means so much more. From this we can derive the teaching of selflessness, giving, helping, and so much more.
Just know that everyone on here, if you ask, you will get an answer, if not a 100.
Rest well in the arms of HaShem, may he hold you close, and always keep you safe.
 
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Any way, as you read through the Torah, let me know if anything doesn't set well with you, and I will do my best to explain it. May will say it is cut and dry, it isn't however. One seemingly small thought, is often meant to open the door to a much wider understanding. Like Love your neighbor, means so much more. From this we can derive the teaching of selflessness, giving, helping, and so much more.
I sent you a message about the Torah, did you receive it?