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FrankChi

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Why does the bible encourage slavery? In the new testament Luke 12vs17, it talks of a servant being punished etc. There are also other verses. I am really confused please help.
 

Blain

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Back then things were different servants were very common but were treated much better like they were family, also it speaks of servants both good and bad to represent his true church and his fake one the Christians by heart and the Christians by title only Mathew 7:23 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’
 
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Miri

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Hi Frank,

Have a read of the link below, pretty much all nations in biblical times used slaves.
However God expected His people to treat their slaves better.

http://archive.churchsociety.org/crossway/documents/Cway_102_Slavery1.pdf


The Egyptians enslaved the Hebrews but when they escaped, God set out various
rules for having slaves, including the following. Slavery was a kind of job security
in bible times, or at least that's how I think it was intended to be. But it was
mankind who corrupted the intention and instead of job security, it became
wrongful confinement and ownership of a person. God was not pleased with
this as th following verses show.


Exodus 21:1-6,12 NKJV
[1] "Now these are the judgments which you shall set before them: [2] If
you buy a Hebrew servant, he shall serve six years; and in the seventh he
shall go out free and pay nothing. [3] If he comes in by himself, he shall go
out by himself; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him.
[4] If his master has given him a wife, and she has borne him sons or daughters,
the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
[5] But if the servant plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children;
I will not go out free,' [6] then his master shall bring him to the judges. He shall
also bring him to the door, or to the doorpost, and his master shall pierce his ear
with an awl; and he shall serve him forever. [12] "He who strikes a man so that
he dies shall surely be put to death.



Jeremiah 34:13-18 NKJV
[13] "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: 'I made a covenant with your
fathers in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, out of the
house of bondage, saying, [14] "At the end of seven years let every man
set free his Hebrew brother, who has been sold to him; and when he has
served you six years, you shall let him go free from you." But your fathers
did not obey Me nor incline their ear.

[15] Then you recently turned and did what was right in My sight-every
man proclaiming liberty to his neighbor; and you made a covenant before
Me in the house which is called by My name. [16] Then you turned around
and profaned My name, and every one of you brought back his male and
female slaves, whom you had set at liberty, at their pleasure, and brought
them back into subjection, to be your male and female slaves.'

[17] "Therefore thus says the LORD: 'You have not obeyed Me in proclaiming
liberty, every one to his brother and every one to his neighbor. Behold, I
proclaim liberty to you,' says the LORD-'to the sword, to pestilence, and to
famine! And I will deliver you to trouble among all the kingdoms of the earth.
[18] And I will give the men who have transgressed My covenant, who have
not performed the words of the covenant which they made before Me, when
they cut the calf in two and passed between the parts of it-
 
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joefizz

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Why does the bible encourage slavery? In the new testament Luke 12vs17, it talks of a servant being punished etc. There are also other verses. I am really confused please help.
well first it is best to know the difference between a servant and a slave,a servant is someone who chooses to work for someone out of debt perhaps,like God called the people of Israel bondservants because they were paying pharoah as they promised they would to Joseph,where as the new pharoah later just called them slaves,this didn't actually change that to God they were paying pharoah for what they received from Egypt,particularly food,
a slave is someone who has no choice in working for someone for they are either forced into service or even sold into service for someone,free will is the difference,when anyone comes into service for someone of a taking care of manner,for example maids and butlers are servants in today's time,they take care of someone's welfare in some way and in return get money,or a place to stay,or both,hope this helps!
 

FrankChi

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Jun 25, 2017
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Hi, thank you for the replies. What about the servant punishment mentioned in the book of Luke. I thought the book of Luke was more recent than the book of Exodus etc. In Luke 12 vs 47 why did Jesus spoke about the punishment of servants. Was he referring to the end times punishment or what?
 
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joefizz

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also...Welcome here you can discuss with bible smart people and possibly make new friends, hope you like it here!(also I made a thread for new comers in miscellaneous,called,"new people tell us about yourself"'if your interested)
 

FGT

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Why does the bible encourage slavery? In the new testament Luke 12vs17, it talks of a servant being punished etc. There are also other verses. I am really confused please help.
In the beginning God created everything for His own good pleasure.
He owned every thing and every living thing. That made every living thing God's slave.
Then once upon a time some angels decided they no longer wanted to be slaves
and be told what to do and how to think and how to act.

They rebelled against God who owned them. And in the process they
took all that would join them and set themselves in war against God
to take over what was not theirs
but belonged to God.

This war of rebellion is still going on today in heaven and on earth.

And if you are not on one side or the other you are caught right in the middle of it.
 
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Ugly

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Hi, thank you for the replies. What about the servant punishment mentioned in the book of Luke. I thought the book of Luke was more recent than the book of Exodus etc. In Luke 12 vs 47 why did Jesus spoke about the punishment of servants. Was he referring to the end times punishment or what?
If you start at verse 35 you can see these are parables and not intended to be literal. Neither is it saying people Should beat slaves, but it was a common practice at the time. Also it was also being written in a manner people of that time could relate to. Using something that people can understand does not mean you are encouraging it. It is simply stating things in a manner people can grasp.
 

beta

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Why does the bible encourage slavery? In the new testament Luke 12vs17, it talks of a servant being punished etc. There are also other verses. I am really confused please help.
You mean v47 ? it is talking of a servant who KNEW what he should do but does not do it....it's called DISOBEDIENCE ! anyone not preparing themselves for the Kgd by the Will of the Lord is not going to make it. see Heb 5v9.
Today people rely far too much on 'grace and forgiveness rather than obedience and this slack response to God and Christ will greatly diminish their position in the Kgd, should they even make it...they will be called the least and have a less honourable position because they are not trusted to obey instruction Mat 5v19. In a way this could be seen as 'eternal punishment.
 
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Why does the bible encourage slavery? In the new testament Luke 12vs17, it talks of a servant being punished etc. There are also other verses. I am really confused please help.
Welcome to Christian Chat, FrankChi. I’m not aware of any Bible verses that encourage taking slaves. The Bible will acknowledge the existence of slavery and give instruction how to treat slaves and how slaves should behave. Remember, also, that there were people who sold themselves into slavery because they were unable to support themselves.
 

tourist

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Why does the bible encourage slavery? In the new testament Luke 12vs17, it talks of a servant being punished etc. There are also other verses. I am really confused please help.
Even though slavery is discussed in the bible it's certainly not condoned. Glad to have you join us. Welcome to CC.
 

Magenta

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Hello Frank, welcome to CC! I hope you enjoy your time with us :)