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Rchg4god

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Aug 15, 2017
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Hi, I'm searching for truth and have looked around different groups for one that seems to match my values system.
I have an interesting past which I choose not to share right now, but I have experienced things that makes me suspicious of organized religion, mostly because of the corrupting influence it seems to have.
I asked Jesus to come into my life when I was 12. I feel that in spite of hardships I have experienced, He has guided me.
Now, I am questioning my faith because of things I have seen.
Needing a little guidance, mostly because I am thinking of making some really big changes in my life that could really affect the way I raise my children.
Does anyone have advice for someone who feels deceived and is trying to sort out truth from error?
 

PennEd

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Well first, welcome!

Many here would like nothing better than to help you in any way.

You asked Jesus into your life. Does that mean you accepted Him as your Lord and savior?

What have you been deceived about?
 

Rchg4god

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Explain accepted Him as my Lord and Savior. Not sure I want to get into what I've been decieved about yet. Let me just say it has to do with doctrine and mankind's tendency to use religion for his own gain.
 
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Hi, I'm searching for truth and have looked around different groups for one that seems to match my values system.
I have an interesting past which I choose not to share right now, but I have experienced things that makes me suspicious of organized religion, mostly because of the corrupting influence it seems to have.
I asked Jesus to come into my life when I was 12. I feel that in spite of hardships I have experienced, He has guided me.
Now, I am questioning my faith because of things I have seen.
Needing a little guidance, mostly because I am thinking of making some really big changes in my life that could really affect the way I raise my children.
Does anyone have advice for someone who feels deceived and is trying to sort out truth from error?
Aren't all these "things" you have seen, things the Bible has already told you would be going on?
 

jenniferand2

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Hi, I'm searching for truth and have looked around different groups for one that seems to match my values system.
I have an interesting past which I choose not to share right now, but I have experienced things that makes me suspicious of organized religion, mostly because of the corrupting influence it seems to have.
I asked Jesus to come into my life when I was 12. I feel that in spite of hardships I have experienced, He has guided me.
Now, I am questioning my faith because of things I have seen.
Needing a little guidance, mostly because I am thinking of making some really big changes in my life that could really affect the way I raise my children.
Does anyone have advice for someone who feels deceived and is trying to sort out truth from error?


I have had so many situations happen in life that have made me question my beliefs In God. way more then I would like to have lived through... I can tell you i Have screamed at God asking why so much bad stuff in my life. I have survived all the bad in my life so far and I have learned a lot from the bad things in my life. So i kind of look at my bad experiences as a learning lesson... If you are wavering on your faith you need to seek answers that no one can really give you. Just know that if you have made in life this far through horrible things that have happened it is no mistake..... MY advice is to read scripture and search for your answers in the bible..

[SUP]1[/SUP] Why standest thou afar off, O LORD? [why] hidest thou [thyself] in times of trouble?
[SUP]2[/SUP] The wicked in [his] pride doth persecute the poor: let them be taken in the devices that they have imagined.
[SUP]3[/SUP] For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, [whom] the LORD abhorreth.
[SUP]4[/SUP] The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek [after God]: God [is] not in all his thoughts.
[SUP]5[/SUP] His ways are always grievous; thy judgments [are] far above out of his sight: [as for] all his enemies, he puffeth at them.
[SUP]6[/SUP] He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for [I shall] never [be] in adversity.
[SUP]7[/SUP] His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue [is] mischief and vanity.

[SUP]8[/SUP] He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor.
[SUP]9[/SUP] He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net.
[SUP]10[/SUP] He croucheth, [and] humbleth himself, that the poor may fall by his strong ones.
[SUP]11[/SUP] He hath said in his heart, God hath forgotten: he hideth his face; he will never see [it].
[SUP]12[/SUP] Arise, O LORD; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble.
[SUP]13[/SUP] Wherefore doth the wicked contemn God? he hath said in his heart, Thou wilt not require [it].
[SUP]14[/SUP] Thou hast seen [it]; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite [it] with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless.
[SUP]15[/SUP] Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil [man]: seek out his wickedness [till] thou find none.
[SUP]16[/SUP] The LORD [is] King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.
[SUP]17[/SUP] LORD, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:
[SUP]18[/SUP] To judge the fatherless and the oppressed, that the man of the earth may no more oppress.


[h=1]Romans 8:18[/h] “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.”


Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

maybe also read the book of John...
 

MartinVee

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Hi Rchg4god,

There is a real enemy out there that only wants to deceive, steal, kill and destroy humans and make us fall away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ and make no mistake he works tirelessly to that end. Never toy with sin, it will cost you.

Have you really accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? Did you count the cost of what that really means? Jesus wants all of you.

Beware of the false prophets that teach deceiving doctrines, for there are many that are out there, and they deceive many.

True Disciple:
Matthew 7:21-22 "Not everyone who calls out to me, 'Lord Lord!' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter."

Here are 2 Sound Doctrine ministries that will guide you to the truth.

illbehonest.com
thefuelproject.org

I sincerely hope you don't depart from Jesus.
Keep Fighting the good Fight of Faith.
 

PennEd

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Apr 22, 2013
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Explain accepted Him as my Lord and Savior. Not sure I want to get into what I've been decieved about yet. Let me just say it has to do with doctrine and mankind's tendency to use religion for his own gain.
You say you asked Him into your life. What does that mean?
Have you confessed with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that He was raised from the grave after 3 days?

Also, it is very hard to give advice on something we don't know about. How is that possible?
 

CherieR

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Welcome here!
 
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natsarim

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{Hi, I'm searching for truth and have looked around different groups for one that seems to match my values system.
I have an interesting past which I choose not to share right now, but I have experienced things that makes me suspicious of organized religion, mostly because of the corrupting influence it seems to have.
I asked Jesus to come into my life when I was 12. I feel that in spite of hardships I have experienced, He has guided me.
Now, I am questioning my faith because of things I have seen.
Needing a little guidance, mostly because I am thinking of making some really big changes in my life that could really affect the way I raise my children.
Does anyone have advice for someone who feels deceived and is trying to sort out truth from error?} Hello and welcome to the club.
I myself asked and pondered my things when I first started to seek for spiritual truths. Here is a paper I wrote a few yrs back.

Do you even knowwhat Faith is, or what we are to be having FAITH in? I pondered these questionsand was surprised at what I found. The scriptures tell us to have faith for oursalvation, and that faith is not even ours Eph 2:8, for theFather gives us that, and again scripture tells us that if we have faith thesize of a mustard seed we could move mountains Matt.21: 21. So what is thisFAITH, where does it come from, and is it only from the Father above?
I once asked apastor friend about faith healing, he told me that if a person were weak intheir faith in the Father (GOD) they probably would not be healed. He said weare so tuned to man’s wisdom and his ways for healing. This made since, but isit true? and if this is correct then why do we look to man? Proverbs 2:1-22tells us that “Yahweh gives Wisdom”, and out of His mouth comes Knowledge andUnderstanding. In Hosea 14:9 scripture say’s “only the righteous hear Yah”, andagain in Hosea 4:6, it says my people are destroyed for a lack ofknowledge. Matt. 15:1-9 says they,(people) worship me in vain, for they teach the commandments of men, and keephis [man’s] doctrines. We know this to be true. TV and magazine ads tell us tolook to our doctors for help, and their medicines to keep us well. Lawyers arealways eager to sue someone on your behalf, real estate people always say nowis the time to buy, and we can’t forget the banks, credit card and loancompanies. I can see where the scriptures are right on here.
Men’s values havechanged over time. It is believed by the mass population that there is asupreme being (a god), but most don’t believe in him for anything other thangoing to Heaven or to Hell. Many people go to “church” simply because they feelit is the right thing to do, or because their family or friends go, somebecause their pastor expects them to be there. They sing their songs, say theirprayers and say Amen and Halleluyah, but is this FAITH? 1Peter 1:18 says youare not redeemed by tradition, and in Mark 7:8-13 you hold the traditions ofmen.
Faith is as in theNew Testament Words Dictionary: trust worthiness and faithful, fidelity andsteadiness, expectation and hope of what is believed.
Faith is defined as: a firm persuasion, a conviction basedupon hearing and an assurance in relation to Yah (God), as distinct from faithin man.
Did you know thatFAITH is a two way street. We all want and expect something from our HeavenlyFather, but did you know He wants and expects something from us in return?Hebrews 11: 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he thatcometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligentlyseek him. Have you ever stopped to thinkthat maybe our Father might want some recognition other than while you are inchurch for the things He has done for us? Lets look at the definition of faith;trust worthiness, we expect the Father to be TRUST WORTHY, but can he trustus to be trust worthy? He gave us a list of commandments to use as aguide so as to please Him. Do you know what they are? Most people will readilysay the 10 commandments but, do youknow what they are? Others will say we are no longer under these laws.Yasha (the Savior) said in Matt. 22, 'Love your Heavenly Father with all of your heart and with all your soul andwith all your mind.' This is the first and the greatest commandment. And thesecond is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Laws and theProphets are based on these two commandments." Did you grasp whatthis is saying? We are to put our Heavenly Father first before all things.Everything we do in life should be based on putting HIM our Heavenly Fatherfirst. Think about it, if He’s not first on your list of priorities then yournot going to be first on His either. TheFirst Commandment says you shall have no other gods before me. In Exodus 20,Yah states who He is and why He does not allow other gods before Him. He is thecreator of all life. He sent His son Yasha to be a sacrifice for us, and threwHIM; He offers us deliverance from slavery, or bondage, to self-indulgence andor self-destructive behavior (sin) Gal. 5: 19-26, 19 the works of the flesh aremanifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20. Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21. Envying, murders, drunkenness, revellings,and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in timepast, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.22. But the fruit of the Spirit is love,joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23. Meekness, temperance: against such there isno law. 24. And they that are Christ'shave crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk inthe Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another,envying one another. Romans 16:26-27 But now is made manifest, and by thescriptures of the prophets, according to the commandments of the everlastingGod, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27. To Yah only wise, be glory through Yasha theChrist for ever. Amen.
The fourth commandment says to remember the Sabbath day and keep itholy. Are you keeping the Sabbath? Or do you do your own thing? 2Tim. 2: sayseveryone (that means every individual) has to study the words of Yah, to showthemselves approved for the kingdom of Yah. Matt.18: 1-5 says you must becomeas little children to enter the Kingdom of God. Are you wondering what thatmeans to become as little children? Its rather simple actually, have youwatched a child at play? They are very inquisitive, always asking why this orwhy that, and they trust in things not seen or understood. Luke 16:15 say’sthat which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of Yah.Things that you place a high value to; job, sports, entertainment, etc, theFather doesn’t place value on.
There is howevermuch value placed on FAITH in the scriptures, 2Cor. 5:7 for we walk by Faith,not by sight, it even goes on to say youcannot please the Father without FAITH.
So what have welearned about faith? You can’t please the Father without it. (Hebrews 11) It issomething that He has given to us (Rom. 12). We trust the Father to do thingsfor us by faith, Hebrews 11: 1 Faith is the substance of things hoped for, theevidence of things not seen. He has to be put at the top of our priority listif we wish to receive blessings from Him. 1Cor. 2:5 your faith should not standin the wisdom of men, but in the power of God (Yah).

Hope this helps.
 

J0Hnnatcc3

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May 26, 2017
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Hi, I'm searching for truth and have looked around different groups for one that seems to match my values system.
I have an interesting past which I choose not to share right now, but I have experienced things that makes me suspicious of organized religion, mostly because of the corrupting influence it seems to have.
I asked Jesus to come into my life when I was 12. I feel that in spite of hardships I have experienced, He has guided me.
Now, I am questioning my faith because of things I have seen.
Needing a little guidance, mostly because I am thinking of making some really big changes in my life that could really affect the way I raise my children.
Does anyone have advice for someone who feels deceived and is trying to sort out truth from error?
Hi and welcome, glad you are here. Your post sounds just like what my friend would say if he joined a site like this. I will tell you what I tell him: If you look to or put your hope in anything but Jesus, I can guarantee you will come up disappointed in one way or another. I know the problems and hypocrisy in The Church is discouraging, but know this isn't something that has caught God by surprise; Jesus said there would be wolves in sheep's clothing.

It may seem hard to believe, but there really are some great churches out there ( I'm involved with one now). Organized religion can be rough, but be encouraged​, much good comes from the local church. God bless, and hang in there :).
 

Rchg4god

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Aug 15, 2017
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All who replied to my post, thank you. Wow. I chose the right site. I am now devouring all of the advice. It's exactly what I needed. I am also looking over other's posts and realizing I'm not alone. I am looking forward to reading more and praying for and with you. I also realized I'm not as Bible literate as I need to be. Working on that.
 

tourist

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This site is definitely not organized religion but there are a lot of Christians here that share of a love of God. Based on your post I would say that you have come to the right place. Glad to have you join us. Welcome to CC.
 
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joefizz

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Hi Rchg4god,

There is a real enemy out there that only wants to deceive, steal, kill and destroy humans and make us fall away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ and make no mistake he works tirelessly to that end. Never toy with sin, it will cost you.

Have you really accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? Did you count the cost of what that really means? Jesus wants all of you.

Beware of the false prophets that teach deceiving doctrines, for there are many that are out there, and they deceive many.

True Disciple:
Matthew 7:21-22 "Not everyone who calls out to me, 'Lord Lord!' will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter."

Here are 2 Sound Doctrine ministries that will guide you to the truth.

illbehonest.com
thefuelproject.org

I sincerely hope you don't depart from Jesus.
Keep Fighting the good Fight of Faith.
martinvee as much as your post is helpful to this new member,I would advise you to be weary of posting "site names" because moderators may construe this as "promoting a site" which is prohibited,though still I hope your advice helps this individual.
 
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joefizz

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Welcome here you can discuss with bible smart people and possibly make new friends,hope you like it here!
 

J0Hnnatcc3

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All who replied to my post, thank you. Wow. I chose the right site. I am now devouring all of the advice. It's exactly what I needed. I am also looking over other's posts and realizing I'm not alone. I am looking forward to reading more and praying for and with you. I also realized I'm not as Bible literate as I need to be. Working on that.
:D
I and others would be happy to continue to point you in the right direction regarding any other questions or concerns you may have. Just remember, the best place to find answers is in The Bible and the best Teacher is The Holy Spirit.
 
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joefizz

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Explain accepted Him as my Lord and Savior. Not sure I want to get into what I've been decieved about yet. Let me just say it has to do with doctrine and mankind's tendency to use religion for his own gain.
well since you've asked for an answer ye shall receive an answer...
accepting Jesus as savior,is when you realize he has died for your sins,and that through him you can be saved,so you willingly humbly and sincerely ask for your soul to be saved and forever acknowledge(know) Jesus to be he who saved you from dieing in your sins through his crucifixion on the cross.
 
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joefizz

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:D
I and others would be happy to continue to point you in the right direction regarding any other questions or concerns you may have. Just remember, the best place to find answers is in The Bible and the best Teacher is The Holy Spirit.
indeed for the holy spirit can reveal much more understanding of God's word than any mere person,to be honest I haven't much read the bible ever since reading it all the way through once,yet the holy spirit fills in the gaps for me,and even many times I relinquish control to the holy spirit concerning anything biblical or concerning God,being content that the holy spirit is wiser than I am and can give a better answer to anyone than I can,half the time I don't remember what is said making it all the more astonishing to me how the holy spirit can work through me and comfort me in that I did not answer instead the holy spirit answering and is such a joy to me!
 
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Ugly

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martinvee as much as your post is helpful to this new member,I would advise you to be weary of posting "site names" because moderators may construe this as "promoting a site" which is prohibited,though still I hope your advice helps this individual.
Methinks you have gotten confused on this matter. Posting sites is acceptable, as long as it is relevant to the discussion at hand and not posted over and over in various places just for advertisement.
Posting other chat sites is what is prohibited.
So the context and content of the sites he posted should pose no problem.
 
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joefizz

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Methinks you have gotten confused on this matter. Posting sites is acceptable, as long as it is relevant to the discussion at hand and not posted over and over in various places just for advertisement.
Posting other chat sites is what is prohibited.
So the context and content of the sites he posted should pose no problem.
oh ok good to know then!