For over 20 years now, I have been researching the contents of my book "The Seed of the Universe". I think it is very important that our children and grown up's know what the Bible says about the creation. What I have found in Proverbs 8:22-31, John 1:1-5, and Genesis 1:1-5 describe the creation of the universe by a path of evolution. However, you need to look at the Hebrew and Greek definitions to understand what the Bible is saying. The translators were lost on this subject, but if the translators of the KJV had lived today, the translation would be a lot different.
If you are interested in this subject this will be a good chat room for you. I am still working on my book so any input that I have failed to study will be more than welcome. It's a hard job writing on topics of the Bible but it has become a mission in my life.

God is Truth... simple to define, but takes in infinite knowledge... Truth is all Truth ..laws that deal with Physics, math, chemistry, etc etc. and also LOVE. In the beginning was a spiritual universe before solid matter was present.. It contained the laws of Truth (God) and all their opposites, (Fiction). God had to separate Truth from fiction by bringing forth UNDERSTANDING (The Holy Ghost) The KJV called it light from Darkness in Genesis 1:1-5. After God had separated his laws from fiction (darkness), he established his laws into the infinite emptiness in structure (Proverbs 8:22-31) The Boomerang telescope zoomed in and photographed some of the larger structure in the year Y2K. However, logic tells us that the structure ranged from micro to light years. Once established, the universe evolved from this structure through a path of evolution as described in Proverbs 8:22-31. In John 1:1-5 it says (in the Greek text) that the universe happened by it's self (after God established his laws). So,.. The creation was all in the layout and calculation of the structure that generated elementary particles that produced Hydrogen, which produced neutrons, which combined with hydrogen atoms and produced all the 92 chemical elements. (Sea water or planetary Nebula). This sea water also contained millions of recipes (depending on the characteristics of each different atom to repel or attract other atoms) to form Seed for each species. The seed hatched and survived according to conditions, not adaptation. Man was last on the chain of life because of his diet. He had to everything that we have today in order to survive.
Genesis said that God created male and female on the 6th day (KJV)… (Day being a period of time and not 24 hours). The first man was nothing more than a beast of the field… Science called him the Neanderthal. Then God rested from his work for a period of time. There was nothing else left to do till the man matured. Once the man matured enough to think about someone else besides himself, God formed him by tests and trials like he does with us today and the Man BECAME a living soul. God named this man Adam and from his rib he made a woman and Adam named her Eve. This was as whole age after the first men and women that God told to multiply and replenish the earth. After God had taken Eve from Adam, he called Adam IYSH. The Hebrew word Adam means a man of Low degree ... Neanderthal ... The Hebrew word Iysh means a man of high degree... Cro-Magnon... All of Adam and Eve's children were called Iysh also… (The Cromagnon people). Cain killed Able and everyone was out to kill him, so Cain had to run for his life. He ended up in the land of Nod that was full of Neanderthals and took a Neanderthal woman for a wife. His kids were half Cro-Magnon and half Neanderthal… Just smart enough to be evil. Cain’s daughters were beautiful and the sons of God (Cro-Magnon men) took them as wives as many as they wanted. The world became corrupt and it grieved God when he looked upon the actual finished product of what he had created. But… He found grace in the family of Noah. (Think of Noah as a lst name).. So God flooded the earth but saved Noah and his family and all the Neanderthals were wiped out. Noah and his family contained the 7 seeds of man that the whole world sprang from. Those same 7 seeds ended up in the blood of Jesus Christ thousands of years down the road.

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God is Truth... simple to define, but takes in infinite knowledge... Truth is all Truth ..laws that deal with Physics, math, chemistry, etc etc. and also LOVE. In the beginning was a spiritual universe before solid matter was present.. It contained the laws of Truth (God) and all their opposites, (Fiction). God had to separate Truth from fiction by bringing forth UNDERSTANDING (The Holy Ghost) The KJV called it light from Darkness in Genesis 1:1-5. After God had separated his laws from fiction (darkness), he established his laws into the infinite emptiness in structure (Proverbs 8:22-31) The Boomerang telescope zoomed in and photographed some of the larger structure in the year Y2K. However, logic tells us that the structure ranged from micro to light years. Once established, the universe evolved from this structure through a path of evolution as described in Proverbs 8:22-31. In John 1:1-5 it says (in the Greek text) that the universe happened by it's self (after God established his laws). So,.. The creation was all in the layout and calculation of the structure that generated elementary particles that produced Hydrogen, which produced neutrons, which combined with hydrogen atoms and produced all the 92 chemical elements. (Sea water or planetary Nebula). This sea water also contained millions of recipes (depending on the characteristics of each different atom to repel or attract other atoms) to form Seed for each species. The seed hatched and survived according to conditions, not adaptation. Man was last on the chain of life because of his diet. He had to everything that we have today in order to survive.
Genesis said that God created male and female on the 6th day (KJV)… (Day being a period of time and not 24 hours). The first man was nothing more than a beast of the field… Science called him the Neanderthal. Then God rested from his work for a period of time. There was nothing else left to do till the man matured. Once the man matured enough to think about someone else besides himself, God formed him by tests and trials like he does with us today and the Man BECAME a living soul. God named this man Adam and from his rib he made a woman and Adam named her Eve. This was as whole age after the first men and women that God told to multiply and replenish the earth. After God had taken Eve from Adam, he called Adam IYSH. The Hebrew word Adam means a man of Low degree ... Neanderthal ... The Hebrew word Iysh means a man of high degree... Cro-Magnon... All of Adam and Eve's children were called Iysh also… (The Cromagnon people). Cain killed Able and everyone was out to kill him, so Cain had to run for his life. He ended up in the land of Nod that was full of Neanderthals and took a Neanderthal woman for a wife. His kids were half Cro-Magnon and half Neanderthal… Just smart enough to be evil. Cain’s daughters were beautiful and the sons of God (Cro-Magnon men) took them as wives as many as they wanted. The world became corrupt and it grieved God when he looked upon the actual finished product of what he had created. But… He found grace in the family of Noah. (Think of Noah as a lst name).. So God flooded the earth but saved Noah and his family and all the Neanderthals were wiped out. Noah and his family contained the 7 seeds of man that the whole world sprang from. Those same 7 seeds ended up in the blood of Jesus Christ thousands of years down the road.

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What an awesome thread, and awesome response.! I feel like I am in the presence of Doctor Carl Sagan, Albert Einstein having a debate with Elmer Fudd Phd as moderator. Smply Awesome.!!

Ricke.. I didn't know that Elmer Fudd knew anything about the bible. I did know that 2 of the 3 little pigs were atheist, but thanks to their big brother, they got saved.

The first time I read the Bible from cover to cover (1972); I noticed that the people of Biblical times talked about the seed as though it was common knowledge. At that time, I had no idea what the seed was. I made it a point that I was going to read the entire translation and not miss one word. I was very careful to mark where I started and where I left off. When I got to all of those "begot’s" in Genesis, I hated to read those scriptures. I could not pronounce these Hebrew names and it did not make any sense to me why they even put it all in the Bible. But the promise to myself still stood strong. I read it all.
After I had finally got through it, it finally dawned on me that these generations of Adam were his seed. I added up all the ages of his grand kids and the answer was 930 years, the age of Adam. It was not as easy as I just made it sound because before the flood they did not give the age the man was when the child was conceived. I took an average age of 49 years and it all came out right. After the flood it give the age when each child was conceived.
So, … Adam lived 930 years through his grandchildren and not in one body. That was a lot easier to believe than one man living to be 930 years old. The understanding of the seed will open up a lot more understanding about Jesus Christ the more you study about it.

There was seven seeds on the ark of Noah, ( Noah's seed went through one of his sons, so that seed was the same as one seed) Over the thousands of years, all seven of theses seeds went through the blood lines and ended up in Joseph and Mary which ended up in Jesus Christ. We all sprang from the 7 seeds on the ark of Noah, so my blood and your blood are a part of those seven seeds. With Jesus Blood being all seven seeds, His blood is in us all. So,... It was our blood that was spilled on the cross for our sins from the veins of Jesus Christ, our perfect sacrifice, THE LAMB OF GOD. God understood all of this before solid matter was created. He had to travel with the Hebrews to protect the seeds that would produce Jesus. He allowed the Hebrews to offer up innocent animals for a sacrifice till Jesus was born. He allowed Noah and his sons and their wives to be saved because they also carried the seeds that would produce Jesus. The whole Bible is a story of Jesus Christ and God and how he had to protect those seven seeds till Jesus was born. That is why there are so many sevens mentioned in the Bible and seven spirits of God.. We all came from those seven seeds.
Within the past 6 or 7 years, Science has just started to study about the seed of man. They don’t call them seeds but it’s the same concept as what has been recorded in the Bible for thousands of years.

one small problem with your thesis. there are no transitional fossils. The human being found in the neander valley has been a perpetrated as something other than he truly is. Point in fact, he stood erect averaging 6 feet tall, stronger boned and more muscular than us, and his cranial vault on the average was larger than ours @ 200cc. Comparative psychology has provided us with a relational coefficent that states the larger the cranial vault, the larger the grey matter, the more intelligent the specie. So, in reality, what we call Neandertal man was in fact faster, stronger, smarter then we are. You may want to pick up the book "Bones of contention" by Lubenow before you venture any further down the evolutionary tree of deception perpetrated by the paleoanthropologist whom are wrought with fraud. Homo erectus, Neandertal man, homo sapiens were all found at Sima de los huesos "pit of the bones' in Madrid Spain in 1994. It was found that they were all contemporaries, different races of mankind living as neighbors. You may want to research your premise so your foundation is on solid ground. Another book you would be interested in is 'the puzzle of ancient man' by chittick.

Sine.. All of what you just posted fits with what the Bible teaches...What part to you don't fit?

neanderthal was not a beast of the field, adam was created in the image of God himself. now, this is extrabiblical but i challenge you to show me that adam only lived in 3 dimensions. there is no such thing in an evolving earth. you either take the word of God for what it says, for it says what it means. it was meant for a child to understand. you don't need a secular degree in science as they think about it to understand God's word. Gods word remains the same, science keeps changing to accomodate what they discover. you say the days of creation were longer than 24 hours- and you will play the card that a day is a 1000 to the Lord, but i challenge you......where does you faith in the Word begin and end. Psalm 138.....'He magnifies His Word above His name'. I'm asking you next, which of the next miracles my Lord performed that you don't believe in. How about water from the rock in the wilderness- wouldn't you agree that that act is a little beyond logic and the laws of physics, and what the world is teaching. The world will never believe that Moses struck a rock and water came forth, I question if you do. So I question your faith in the Word generally. I suppose next you'll tell me that the Angel of passover didn't pass over. In other words, when you start allegorize the Word of God, you diminish His work, you diminish the semantics and open the door for heresy. You need insects to pollinate vegetation. Following the rules of logic, it's impossible to create vegetation over an undisclosed amount of time, when the insects were created on a different "day'. In other words, Genesis becomes problematic over and over and over again. You may as well throw it out. Where does that stop. What is the next book you will cleave from the collection of the Holy Spirit. If you start this process, what else will you cleave from the Bible. You can make a 'Logical explanation' for anything you want to discredit or diminish in the Bible. I, on the other hand, believe in a God of Miracles. The six days of creation were just the start. Man's redemptive plan is the real miracle.

Sine...In order to even try to understand what Adam was, Look up the word Adam and see what the Hebrew meaning is. ... 120. 'adam, aw-dawm'; from H119; ruddy, i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.):--X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person. ... A beast don't have to have 4 legs to be a beast. A beast thinks about himself and no one else. ... LOW DEGREE PERSON.
I don't understand what you mean by Adam living in 3 dimensions.... But... Adam was the start of man, not the finished product. Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. ... This was the Neanderthal Adam, both Male and female that was told to multiply (God never told Adam and Eve to multiply). They were created on the 6th day, (Period of time)
After the Neanderthal Adam, God rested from all his work, a whole age of time. That give the Neanderthal Adam time to grow mentally over many generations. Then God came back to work with his creation. Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
This is where you need to stop and get a grip on what the word DAY actually is. Remember that King James and his translators used Old English to record the Bible. Even in modern day English the word day can mean a period of time ...Day...
5: a specified time or period : AGE *in grandfather's day*... Hebrew... Yowm..season, X since, space, then, (process of) time, + as at other times, ... In Gen 2:4 the word Day plainly shows that meaning when it says This is the GENERATIONS of heavens and the earth, in the DAY that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. .. The word generations means, ... live die, live die. ...and Day means a period of time when all of those generations took place.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Hebrew word for Formed=3335. yatsar, yaw-tsar'; prob. identical with H3334 (through the squeezing into shape); ([comp. H3331]), to mould into a form; espec. as a potter; fig. to determine (i.e. form a resolution):-- X earthen, fashion, form, frame, make (-r), potter, purpose. As God fashions you as fine silver, melts you down and pours off the scum, over and over and over till you are pure.
Nostrils = 5397. neshamah, nesh-aw-maw'; fr. H5395; a puff, i.e. wind, angry or vital breath, divine inspiration, intellect. or (concr.) an animal:--blast, (that) breath (-eth), inspiration, soul, spirit. ... Now the next word is very interesting. In the Hebrew text the Hebrew word CHAY is used just before the word Adam. ... 2416. chay, khah'ee; from H2421; alive; hence raw (flesh); fresh (plant, water, year), strong, also (as noun, espec. in the fem. sing. and masc. plur.) life (or living thing), whether lit. or fig.:-- + age, alive, appetite, (wild) beast, company, congregation, life (-time), live (-ly), living (creature, thing), maintenance, + merry, multitude, + (be) old, quick, raw, running, springing, troop. The word Chay describes Adam as a beast of the field, but God opened his mind and the man BECAME a living soul. That means that he did not have a soul before, he was just a beast of the field... Look at the whole verse in Hebrew and look up the definitions like I did. See what the Bible says instead of what a bunch of translators THOUGHT it said.
Gen 2:7 . . yehovah:H3068 'elohiym:H430 yatsar:H3335 'adam:H120 . . 'aphar:H6083 . . 'adamah:H127 . naphach:H5301 . . 'aph:H639 . neshamah:H5397 . chay:H2416 . 'adam:H120 hayah:H1961 . chay:H2416 nephesh:H5315
If you don't understand the Hebrew, make your own translations with the word meaning.. Like...The Lord God formed Adam from the dust of the ground (Solid elements in sea water), to bring into being and surviving from an earlier period with the capacity for knowledge. ... From a beast of the field, Adam came to pass. ... From a beast of the field, to a man with a soul.
How could a tree grow an bear fruit in 24 hours.. I know that it happened in Jack and the Bean Stalk, but I'm talking about the real world. I do believe in miracles. I think they are called Miracles till we understand what happened, and then it is called physics. But most of all, I know that what we read is a translation of the Bible and not the Bible. That is why I use the Strong's Concordance along with my KJV so that I can see what the Bible said instead of what a bunch of translators who lived almost 500 years ago THOUGHT it said.Thank God for the KJV because I turned my life around with it. It would take the rest of my life to make my own translation from cover to cover if I lived to be 120 years old. ( or take a course in Hebrew and Greek). But I have enough sense to know that it is just a translation and I don't try to take it word by word or use it as a foundation for argument.