Does the color of Christ matter

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Yudahkid12

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I am new not only to this site but also to the faith and when I was talking to some guys that i seen on The street they said that there was no way that Christ could ever be for the (white man) I was not sure if that was true are not I thought Christ was for ever one so is there any were in the Bible that says he was only for dark skin people or is there any were in the Bible that I can show these guys that Christ came for every one and other thing is dose his color really matter why or why not thanks God bless
 
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biscuit

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I am new not only to this site but also to the faith and when I was talking to some guys that i seen on The street they said that there was no way that Christ could ever be for the (white man) I was not sure if that was true are not I thought Christ was for ever one so is there any were in the Bible that says he was only for dark skin people or is there any were in the Bible that I can show these guys that Christ came for every one and other thing is dose his color really matter why or why not thanks God bless
"For there is no respect of persons with God." (Roman 2:11)
 

mystdancer50

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No, the color of Christ does not matter. We do know that He was born into the house of David and that He is Jewish. We know that He is perfect, holy and sinless. We know that He laid down His life for our sins and rose again on the third day. We know that He is alive and that He sits at the Father's right hand. We know that those that have accepted Him are blameless in the sight of God, justified, because of His shed blood.

In the light of all that, does skin color matter? No. The same thing with salvation. In the light of salvation of any who call on the name of the Lord, does skin color matter? No. We are all equal in the eyes of God, all sinners in need of redemption, and those that belong to Christ are God's children, regardless of color of skin.
 
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biscuit

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No, the color of Christ does not matter. We do know that He was born into the house of David and that He is Jewish. We know that He is perfect, holy and sinless. We know that He laid down His life for our sins and rose again on the third day. We know that He is alive and that He sits at the Father's right hand. We know that those that have accepted Him are blameless in the sight of God, justified, because of His shed blood.

In the light of all that, does skin color matter? No. The same thing with salvation. In the light of salvation of any who call on the name of the Lord, does skin color matter? No. We are all equal in the eyes of God, all sinners in need of redemption, and those that belong to Christ are God's children, regardless of color of skin.[/QUOTE

Amen
 
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Yudahkid12

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That's a great scripture thanks I will use that however I'm trying to get as many scriptures to point out to these guys the only thing is they kept saying that we have to use the volume of the book not just one scripture This was the scripture they pulled Isa 28:9-10 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: dose this mean we have to us more the one scripture. Like scriptures that say ever thing must established by two or three witnesses
 
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biscuit

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That's a great scripture thanks I will use that however I'm trying to get as many scriptures to point out to these guys the only thing is they kept saying that we have to use the volume of the book not just one scripture This was the scripture they pulled Isa 28:9-10 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: dose this mean we have to us more the one scripture. Like scriptures that say ever thing must established by two or three witnesses
You have the advantage because you have one ... and it is HUGE!! Make them play the game fair and tell they must find one to contradict your finding. You will win this war because God does not contradict Himself. I willingly to bet they will walk away shaking their heads.:)
 
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biscuit

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That's a great scripture thanks I will use that however I'm trying to get as many scriptures to point out to these guys the only thing is they kept saying that we have to use the volume of the book not just one scripture This was the scripture they pulled Isa 28:9-10 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: dose this mean we have to us more the one scripture. Like scriptures that say ever thing must established by two or three witnesses
The verse they used has nothing to do with the color of Christ. I believe they are playing you for a fool.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Matthew 28:18-20 Then Jesus came near and said to them, " All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always to the end of the age. "

Notice our Lord doesn't say go to some of the nations, but make disciples of all the nations. Plus when it comes to the bible there are two groups. The Jews ( God's chosen ) , and the gentiles which is the rest of the nations that is spoke about by Jesus in this scripture. Our Lord Jesus commissioned for all of us to be brought into His fold. Color does not matter, the argument that i have always heard that was used from those who said Jesus was not for white man was how in the old testament it has a description of the spirit of God and it says His hair was as white as wool. Notice again it is speaking of the color, not the texture. As we all know there are men of every race that has hair that white. Lord Jesus is for all !!!
 
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Yudahkid12

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They the verse to say we need to use more then just one verse
 
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MichaelAnthony

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I am new not only to this site but also to the faith and when I was talking to some guys that i seen on The street they said that there was no way that Christ could ever be for the (white man) I was not sure if that was true are not I thought Christ was for ever one so is there any were in the Bible that says he was only for dark skin people or is there any were in the Bible that I can show these guys that Christ came for every one and other thing is dose his color really matter why or why not thanks God bless

Hi, and welcome. I'm new to the board, too, but I would like to address what you stated as being new to the faith. If you've had a chance to read the young life of Jesus in the bible you'll read about His desire to learn. Also, He didn't start His ministry until He was much older, which is why I would suggest that you involve yourself in a bible study class that can help you become more equipped with the knowledge of the bible. I admire that you want to learn and tell people the truth of the bible, however, one should always be careful not get into a debate with others whose purpose is to use the bible for their racist insults like what you've described in your post.

Matthew 10:16 English Standard Version
“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
 
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bluebirdchaser

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I think that it's likely that Jesus' body was dark skinned considering the area and all that, but I think that sometimes there are other deeper issues as to why some people feel the need to know that. I don't really know the people you are talking to, but pointing out that Jesus as he was in the flesh was probably not white may not have even been about his ability to save us as much as it was about deeper racial issues that span hundreds of years. Does it matter that Jesus, as he was on earth, was not white? No. It doesn't take "power" or anything from anyone. Jesus saves us all, Jew, gentile, every race under the sun. We're all the same under him. Free and saved from sin. So I don't think that knowing that Jesus may have been dark skinned is necessarily bad. Just so long as you remember that his skin color does not mean he is not here for everyone. :)
 
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Yudahkid12

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Thanks brother yea seen on the street preaching they had bibles in there hand I wanted to see what they were talking about they said God hate the white man and will kill I could not believe that they want as far as to say that israelites are black like Christ was They this verse to say that God did deal Other nations Psalms 147:19-20 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. 20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.
(Ps 147:19-20 KJV) than they brought this verses out 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
(John 4:22 KJV)
1 WHAT advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. 3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
(Rom 3:1-4 KJV)
 
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Raine

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The main thing that matters isn't Christ's skin color but the fact that we are all made in the image of God and are all His masterpiece.
 
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Ugly

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John 3:16... For God so loved the WORLD that he gave His only begotten son...
 

MartyrNdaMaKn

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There is no such as color when it comes to Jesus, he only sees us as people not some crayon box. JESUS is for everybody.
 
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MichaelAnthony

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Thanks brother yea seen on the street preaching they had bibles in there hand I wanted to see what they were talking about they said God hate the white man and will kill I could not believe that they want as far as to say that israelites are black like Christ was They this verse to say that God did deal Other nations Psalms 147:19-20 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. 20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.
(Ps 147:19-20 KJV) than they brought this verses out 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
(John 4:22 KJV)
1 WHAT advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. 3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
(Rom 3:1-4 KJV)
I'm not sure to which poster you are responding to with your post but I'm getting a bigger picture of whom you were referring to and it is apparent that those are exactly the type of wolves in sheep's clothing the bible points to. With those sort you don't want to even to give them the time of day. They will twist anything and everything for their ungodly agenda. Their goal is to religiously brain wash anyone they can attract or rather those whom let themselves be caught in their religious trap and get them to think as they do. If they succeed in their witchcraft then all they do is add more to their pack of wickedness. This is how terrorists recruit people. Instead pray that the Lord cast down their wicked works and that they be set free from their bondage of hate.
In Christ, Mike
 
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Yudahkid12

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That was in response to your earlier post thinks for the great word all of Yall have a big help. They say that they were not a religious group
 
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NightRevan

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Hi Yudahkid12, well first of I'm glad to meet you, and I hope you find this place to be a warm and welcoming one, and the fellowship you find here to one that is loving, uplifting and supportive, and I do hope that all you find here is characterised by love, joy and peace in King Jesus :)

As to Jesus Himself, well according to the flesh He was born of Israel, of the Jewish people, and He is the Messiah of Israel, the expected and full Son of David (and His own favourite title, Son of Man, the one who represents Israel in person). Indeed as such this makes Him King of the Jews, the King of Israel (and therefore the world Psalm 2, Isaiah etc), so He is Jewish, and indeed (given He was born in Judea - Judah) He would look Middle Eastern Jewish probably similar to Sephardic Jews (Jews who have remained in the Middle East).

However the above are right, as Israel's Messiah He is therefore the Messiah (the Ruler and Saviour of all the world), His was faithful and fulfilled Israel's calling in person, the point at which the long history detailed in in the OT, which God promised to deal with evil in the world and rescue creation from the effects on sin and evil through Abraham reached it's climax, in and through the Messiah (by being the curse of exile and death) forgiveness of sins for Israel and release from exile was released and at last was achieved the purpose to which Israel had been called, elected and blessed to both belong to God and therefore to be the ones through whom the nations would be blessed, redeemed and freed, and all creation would be set free from it's bondage. And this was achieved by Jesus being Israel in person, taking it's identity and calling in person, taking the curse of exile fully on Himself, and so unleashing the forgiveness of sins, the final return from exile, blessing and freedom promised at last, to Israel and all mankind bringing the promise to Abraham to fulfilment. In His own flesh He broke down the barrier of the dividing wall between Jew and Gentile, abolishing in His flesh the enmity between Jew and Gentile. So what counts now, what justifies and makes one whether near (a Jew receiving the promise) or those far off (Gentiles, the nations) a member of Abraham's family, with covenant right to the table is faith into the Jewish Messiah, and in His faithfulness on our behalf alone that counts now, and not the works of circumscription, food laws etc that justifies and makes us of Abraham's family and receive the blessing and promise of (and given eschatologically to) Abraham. Believing faith into (and through) Jesus the Jewish Messiah to Jew and Gentile alike alone is what makes one of the commonwealth of Israel (just to not this has nothing to do with Israel as a country, and I do read Romans as promising the full restoration of ethnic Israel in time to recognise and claim the promise that is theirs through the patriarchs, the prophets, their ultimately their own (and our :) ) Messiah who has fulfilled those promises and ended their exile, the blindness affecting most of the Jewish people will end, God is faithful to His promises :D ) .

So as the Messiah of Israel He is the Messiah of the whole world, it's Saviour and true Lord, and the one through Whom all nations and the world shall be saved, rescued and restored.

So He is and remains the Jewish Messiah, but because of this, in it's fullest meaning and the intention of God from the beginning to rescue all of mankind and the whole world through His calling of Abraham, He is the world's Messiah. So in terms of how people depict Our King in artwork, though I always have a personal preference from a Middle Eastern Jewish depreciation it is not only fine but equally true to depict Him in the style of their own culture and style, as He is the fully human One, the one in which all the nations as who each uniquely is is restored to be fully themselves, fully their own culture while being joined through the Lord into the commonwealth of Israel. And of course, throughout the resurrection narratives we see through them the strangeness of the new resurrection body, as it has been correctly surmised it was as if the authors and the eyewitness narratives behind them were attempting to describe something for which they didn't have adequate language for, the first example of incorruptible, immortal new creation in existence. The first-fruits and the launch of what is to come to all redeemed humanity, and indeed to the whole universe, as the whole cosmos was made through Him, so it is and shall be redeemed, rescued and restored through Him, and brought under His saving and restoring Authority :) .

And so it is because He is the Jewish Messiah, that makes Him the world's Messiah, it's Lord and Saviour, the one through Whom the whole world has been, is being and while be saved, rescued, restored and renewed, and all the peoples in their diverse and unique multitudes (in all their beautiful distinctiveness now in unity in Him) set free, the ones through whom His reign will be exercised. So by because He is the Jewish Messiah He belongs to all nations, and they belong to Him, and is the universal Saviour of all.

Anyway, I hope you find many more discussions on the issues you have, and find understanding and compassionate responses and engagement :),

God bless and Welcome :D
 
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Yudahkid12

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Thank you i just found these verses Romans 11: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
(Rom 11:25 KJV)
Romans 11:111 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. (Rom 11:11 KJV) so he will save the other nations
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
(John 4:21-24 KJV)
 
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J-Kay-2

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Sons Through Faith in Christ Galations 6:
27For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

I add personally there is no color when we are spirit. God does not look at the color of our skin. He looks at our spirit ~