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roadklcat

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I'm having an issue. I'm not starting a debate. I need some input. I don't know if birth control is a sin. I've heard so many different things. I'm on it because I've miscarried 3x and have two children. I have alot of problems that could pass on and I can't handle another loss. I don't believe in abortion. I'm just starting to doubt whether I'm wrong for being on birth control.
 
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roadklcat said:
I'm having an issue. I'm not starting a debate. I need some input. I don't know if birth control is a sin. I've heard so many different things. I'm on it because I've miscarried 3x and have two children. I have alot of problems that could pass on and I can't handle another loss. I don't believe in abortion. I'm just starting to doubt whether I'm wrong for being on birth control.
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First of all, you need to be in prayer before the Lord, and be feeding on His Word day by day; you may already be.

What you want to avoid is a situation where someone whose opinions are supposed to be 'religiously important' tries to guilt-manipulate you and so you act in fear, and then something regrettable happens and the person doesn't take responsibility for his or her influence and then you are the one who has the problem.

In other words, you and dh need to figure things and find where your clear conscience is.
 
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Some will say yes, some will say no. Personally, i say no it's not wrong. Are you Catholic? Because i believe it is largely Catholics that teach that, though there are also some Christians who believe it as well. From what i can tell, though, most Christians seem to feel it's acceptable. God did, after all, give us wisdom to make choices. If you feel there's wisdom in your choice, then that could be your answer. Besides, if God really wants you to have a baby He can make it happen regardless of what you do to prevent it.
 
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Me personally I'm going to say yes it is a sin to God. If He honors you with that baby He wants you to have it. Being pregnant is a gift from God. By the way, welcome to the site and please remember my inbox is always open.
 
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Good evening and Welcome !!!
Well, I can't say if it's a sin or not...If God wants you to have a baby, you will have it !! Personally, I'm against, just because I don't feel ok with a pill controlling my birth-giving organ. I've been raised like that, and anyway, I don't like medicine pills in general. I think there are lots of medical issues linked to it. But it's just my personal opinion.
 
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Greetings. You bring up an important topic.

First, one must focus on the real moral issues:
1) Love God with all the might and
2) Love neighbor as self.

Discussion of morality and ethics is likely to become erroneous if it cannot be brought under those first principles.

Second, there is a promise in James 1 to claim, "If any man lack wisdom . . . ."

Birth control is not the same thing as contraception. The first is stopping babies from coming to birth (and thus includes killing them in the womb -- tragically so often done). The second is preventing a sperm from fertilizing an egg. If a woman has an device implanted inside her womb which prevents a fertilized egg from developing, that would be killing, not contraception. Thus, to prevent killing babies, one needs to know that the method used only prevents a sperm from entering an egg.

Is a man loving his wife as himself if he causes her to get pregnant every year and have 30 children? If it is possible to avoid this and still obey the wisdom to come together often lest satan tempt you for having a strong sexual itch (see 1 Cor 7), that would be loving wife as self for a man.
 
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SunnySoul said:
Good evening and Welcome !!!
Well, I can't say if it's a sin or not...If God wants you to have a baby, you will have it !! Personally, I'm against, just because I don't feel ok with a pill controlling my birth-giving organ. I've been raised like that, and anyway, I don't like medicine pills in general. I think there are lots of medical issues linked to it. But it's just my personal opinion.
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Sunny I hope you are having a sunny day. Forgive me for taking issue with this that you posted, "If God wants you to have a baby, you will have it !!"

Appealing to predestination does not settle ethical issues. It is saying to your children, as you push them out in the snow without a coat, "If God wants you to have a coat, He will provide it," "If God wants you to be warm, He will warm you." Can one jump off a 10 story building a say, "If God doesn't want me to smack on the ground, I won't smack"?

Essentially predestination is God's business. We life in world of cause and effect, even if we don't understand how that can be with predestination. The things we do have consequences that follow for which we are responsible. General rules: Having sex leads to pregnancies. Taking measures to prevent sperm reaching eggs prevents pregnancies.

If the only thing a pill does is prevent ovulation, that is one thing; if the pill causes a fertilized egg to die, that is another.

Having said that, it is very good to recognize that children are the gift of the Lord, as I think you do.
 
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The pill i want to take keeps the eggs from attaching. I have alot of reproductive issues. I feel like I'm taking being responsible in not having any children I can't afford or hemorrhaging again during a miscarriage and leaving my children. I can accept all opinions because that's all any one has. I'm a southern Baptist. The two children I have, barely made it because I couldn't carry them to term. I feel that God gave me 1girl and 1boy out of 5 pregnancies and he says enough.
 
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Atwood said:
Sunny I hope you are having a sunny day. Forgive me for taking issue with this that you posted, "If God wants you to have a baby, you will have it !!"

Appealing to predestination does not settle ethical issues. It is saying to your children, as you push them out in the snow without a coat, "If God wants you to have a coat, He will provide it," "If God wants you to be warm, He will warm you." Can one jump off a 10 story building a say, "If God doesn't want me to smack on the ground, I won't smack"?

Essentially predestination is God's business. We life in world of cause and effect, even if we don't understand how that can be with predestination. The things we do have consequences that follow for which we are responsible. General rules: Having sex leads to pregnancies. Taking measures to prevent sperm reaching eggs prevents pregnancies.

If the only thing a pill does is prevent ovulation, that is one thing; if the pill causes a fertilized egg to die, that is another.

Having said that, it is very good to recognize that children are the gift of the Lord, as I think you do.
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I don't really see the link with the coat, the warmth and jumping...I'm sorry...Because those examples, to me, refers to being irresponsible and not really bright...

God creates life. Each egg fertilized is GOD's will. Yes we are responsible for our actions, and there are consequences, but if it is GOD's will for you to have a child, He will make it happen.
I know women that got pregnant taking birth control, even having condoms. I know others that never used none of them and have no children. This is ultimately God's intervention when it comes to life.

And like you say, it's "general rules".
 
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roadklcat

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So being against birth control, I should not take it and see what happens? Trust me, I'm not being combative. I'm very serious about getting opinions.
 
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SunnySoul said:
I don't really see the link with the coat, the warmth and jumping...I'm sorry...Because those examples, to me, refers to being irresponsible and not really bright...

God creates life. Each egg fertilized is GOD's will. Yes we are responsible for our actions, and there are consequences, but if it is GOD's will for you to have a child, He will make it happen.
I know women that got pregnant taking birth control, even having condoms. I know others that never used none of them and have no children. This is ultimately God's intervention when it comes to life.

And like you say, it's "general rules".
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"God creates life. Each egg fertilized is GOD's will. Yes we are responsible for our actions, and there are consequences, but if it is GOD's will for you to have a child, He will make it happen.
I know women that got pregnant taking birth control, even having condoms. I know others that never used none of them and have no children. This is ultimately God's intervention when it comes to life."

God created human life when He made Adam and Eve. He told them to be fruitful and multiply. Men and women bring new life into existence by their actions together. It goes back to God. But each human being is not a de novo creation of God. If it were, then all babies would be born without sin natures. But we are all included in Adam's sin (Rom 5), thus we must have been in Adam when he sinned. The spirits of men must also be derived from their parents and not special creations of God, because otherwise, God would be putting a sinless spirit into a body that supposed carried the sin of Adam.

Of course, God's providence is over all. We may try to do one thing, then it comes out differently. But it would be absurd for a woman to abstain from sex and declare, "If God wants me to get pregnant He will make me pregnant." We may see God as sovereign and in control over all actions of men, but men are responsible for their actions and do cause things to be done. If a man and woman have sex, both being healthy, it is probable that there will be pregnancy. If they abstain and do not have sex, it is very unlikely to happen. Going ahead and having sex without contraception has its consequences different from using contraception, regardless of the role you assign to God.

Notwithstanding, if you trust the Lord for the outcomes in your life and depend upon him day by day, that is very commendable.
 
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SunnySoul

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So being against birth control, I should not take it and see what happens? Trust me, I'm not being combative. I'm very serious about getting opinions.
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That is how I would do. I cannot advice you to do so, this is my personal opinion.
 
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Atwood said:
"God creates life. Each egg fertilized is GOD's will. Yes we are responsible for our actions, and there are consequences, but if it is GOD's will for you to have a child, He will make it happen.
I know women that got pregnant taking birth control, even having condoms. I know others that never used none of them and have no children. This is ultimately God's intervention when it comes to life."

God created human life when He made Adam and Eve. He told them to be fruitful and multiply. Men and women bring new life into existence by their actions together. It goes back to God. But each human being is not a de novo creation of God. If it were, then all babies would be born without sin natures. But we are all included in Adam's sin (Rom 5), thus we must have been in Adam when he sinned. The spirits of men must also be derived from their parents and not special creations of God, because otherwise, God would be putting a sinless spirit into a body that supposed carried the sin of Adam.

Of course, God's providence is over all. We may try to do one thing, then it comes out differently. But it would be absurd for a woman to abstain from sex and declare, "If God wants me to get pregnant He will make me pregnant." We may see God as sovereign and in control over all actions of men, but men are responsible for their actions and do cause things to be done. If a man and woman have sex, both being healthy, it is probable that there will be pregnancy. If they abstain and do not have sex, it is very unlikely to happen. Going ahead and having sex without contraception has its consequences different from using contraception, regardless of the role you assign to God.

Notwithstanding, if you trust the Lord for the outcomes in your life and depend upon him day by day, that is very commendable.
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You are saying that God is not responsible for us being here, if I understand well and I completely disagree on this one.
Psalm 139:13 shows the opposite. "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb."
So let's agree to disagree...Having sex isn't necessarily leading to pregnancy and for the scientist ones, it's still a big mystery ! Now if you don't see things this way, fine. I know my God is behind the birth of every human being.
 
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SunnySoul

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The only thing I can advice you to do is to pray about it...If there's concern in your mind about the fact of taking birth control, I don't know...it may be conviction from the Holy Spirit or it may not. Let Him guide on you this one !
 
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No your not wrong at all. God will grace you with a child. Just keep the faith have faith positive stay positive.
 
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