Can anyone help me understand these verses?

What a bunch of hogwash you post Ralph

Exactly ...... one has to read into scripture what is not there (loseable salvation) and because it is NOT there then one has to attack the people who expose the lie for what it is!!!

That is the only option because it is not in the scripture.

I've been talking to this person for months now. I know exactly what he says about this subject. No twisting going on here.

And you are blind.

There are several ex-Catholics on this website who have been lured into the ugliness of the Freegrace once saved always saved doctrine you teach.

Par for the course with a Cainologist

HAHAHAHAHHAHA she knows better.....try again!

Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why continuing to believe bothers you so much? Don't attack me just because you may have a struggle in that area. And more importantly, don't change scripture to accommodate your struggle with unbelief if that's what your problem is.

Yes, Cain was guilty of trying to earn his own salvation with his believing. You really need to stop and listen to the foolishness you teach. Trusting in Christ is now akin to Cain offering the work of his hands to the Lord. What a joke you are making of Christianity.

What bothers me is the Koine Greek does not support "continuing to believe" the way you define it in terms of being justified, so yeah I do not like ideas that oppose scripture.

Keep telling yourself that and keep believing you keep yourself saved....

Well, lying has certainly been your tactic of choice, so I know I won't get you to acknowledge what you've been saying. I've caught you numerous times in outright lies. But I know you will just deny it. It's why I don't consider you a saved brother. I have that right so don't get your undies in a bunch over it. Just prove to me by how you act that you are born again.

Show me.

The way you define it is, because you say salvation can be lost.

We have all done it so many times over, yet you refute plain grammar of the perfect tense in Greek.
I really see no advantage to enter into that endeavour again.

Yep, just as I expected. I knew you would not be able to show me.

Nope , after much struggle with the kinds of things you post , I finally , after crying out to God for the truth , am not blind anymore

Not hardly....I trust Christ 100% to keep his word, you are the one making a mockery of Christ....Here let us evaluate who actually is making a joke of Christianity...shall we

I believe JESUS

saves to the uttermost
keep his promise to never leave or forsake me
gives eternal life irrevocably
justifies eternally
sanctifies positionally eternally
starts, finishes and completes the work of faith he began
keeps my by his power through the above faith that he will COMPLETE
am in his hand, his Father's hand
seals me unto the day of redemption
will lose nothing
covered me eternally by his blood and grace
we have been born again by INCORRUPTABLE SEED
etc..

YOU BELIEVE

JESUS does not keep his word
throws us away
does not save us eternally
justifies temporarily
sanctifies temporarily
saves temporarily
is too weak to keep us
does not finish what he started
unseals us
his blood is watered down and not sufficient
we are yanked out of the Father's hand and the hand of Christ
etc..

NO man....it is you that makes a mockery of Christ and Christianity by your dogma!!!

@dcontroversal

Oh my goodness, I am laughing so hard, you liked this post by Ralphie, is it true...LOL I am so glad you two agree on something oh my goodness too funny...

These statements just continue to to display you have no scripture to support your eisegesis.