Is it LAWFUL to kill animals?

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CS1

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The animals were put into the possession of Man by God. This makes the problem of the Devil much worse if you think about it. How be it they obeyed the creature put into their dominion? But ah, it is always been this as seen in their golden calves, they begin worshipping the creatures and the creation itself that are ironically made lower than themselves rather than the Creator of it all that made them to be sons of God, Lord Jesus.
the lamb is symbolic of the serpent as the devil and "the serpent was given him that same to describe his nature.
 

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Let me ask you again, "In what verse of Genesis chapter 3 does it say: "God killed some kind of animal"? -It doesn't.
again God took skins and covered Adam and Eve with. Those skins came from some kind of animal because the word Ore in Hebrew says that. If you are not able to draw the conclusion from the text fine. FYI the word of God has figurative, descriptive, normative, symbolic, Typologies, literal meanings.

God TOOK skins is what the text says. oh my, what are skins? the Hebrew word "Ore" is = flesh, hide, or leather. God took this to cover Adam and Eve.


And God of the Bible requires Blood for sin. IN the text I see often taught that after the first sin was committed, God wanted to show Adam and Eve that sin has consequences,(IMHO) and so He slew an animal in front of them and made clothes for them from the hide of the dead animal.

Some have even speculated that the animal was a lamb, IDK,

thereby presenting a prophetical picture of Jesus, the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world (Revelation 5:6; 13:8).


The text says God Took if you have an explanation of where God took Skins from please tell me. But if you can't see and understand that God took skins from something which was previously wearing it I'm sorry that is your understanding, not mine.

I do not need you to agree or am I trying to make you agree. I do not care if you do or do not. :)
 

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Let me ask you again, "In what verse of Genesis chapter 3 does it say: "God killed some kind of animal"? -It doesn't.
and it seems you ask a question you already believe you know, you don't.
 

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Let me ask you again, "In what verse of Genesis chapter 3 does it say: "God killed some kind of animal"? -It doesn't.
In what verse of Genesis does it say: "Animals are innocent"? -It doesn't.

See? It works both ways.
 

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God killed an animal (perhaps more than one) to clothe Adam and Eve...

Say, DanieLL, I owe you an apology for a couple of posts I made to you in error
thinking I was speaking to O-J in that thread that got shut down yesterday...


I will try not to make that mistake again :)
What thread got shut down yesterday? I'm usually on top of these things. :)
 
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God TOOK skins is what the text says.
Yes, God took skins, it doesn't say "He slew them". That is your assumption.
In what verse of Genesis does it say: "Animals are innocent"? -It doesn't.
The difference is that in this case, it does. When you say it doesn't, you say that God created animals already guilty of sin (an impossibility) and that He saw that guilty animals with sin was "good". Which blasphemes His Holiness in a number of different ways.

You should mimic Messiah, not me. But if you want to mimic me, at leat do it properly, without blaspheming.
 

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What thread got shut down yesterday? I'm usually on top of these things. :)
O-J's... but it was a few days ago now (last Saturday)... "tree of knowledge" guy ;)

He has been on site since then but not posted. I suspect he cannot, though he is not outright banned.
 

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Yes, God took skins, it doesn't say "He slew them". That is your assumption.

The difference is that in this case, it does. When you say it doesn't, you say that God created animals already guilty of sin (an impossibility) and that He saw that guilty animals with sin was "good". Which blasphemes His Holiness in a number of different ways.

You should mimic Messiah, not me. But if you want to mimic me, at leat do it properly, without blaspheming.
first off please do not say one is blaspheming, that is some kind of Westboro reaction and not going to take you seriously.

Second, no lamb ever killed as sacrifice sinned. IF you understood that atonement was a postponement of judgment for sin. Passed down from generation to generation to the Cross when the final debt of sin was paid once and for all. God requiring killing an animal was not a lasting sacrifice. That is why they did it each year. The payment for sin is death. Something as to die for sin because God requires it. Yet God sent Himself to make the payment we could not pay and died for a sin HE did not do. Just as HE took Skins from an animal that did not eat of the tree or sin to cover man's sin.


Very simple. Now we are done :) please send 19.95 to CS1 Read my Bible PO Box 7777 Oakland CA 94536 J/king
 

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Yes, God took skins, it doesn't say "He slew them". That is your assumption.

The difference is that in this case, it does. When you say it doesn't, you say that God created animals already guilty of sin (an impossibility) and that He saw that guilty animals with sin was "good". Which blasphemes His Holiness in a number of different ways.

You should mimic Messiah, not me. But if you want to mimic me, at leat do it properly, without blaspheming.
FYI animals do not sin they live in a fallen world.
 
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Arise, Peter. Kill and eat.
Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Jesus said that to Peter did he not?
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
 
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Passed down from generation to generation to the Cross
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
God requiring killing an animal was not a lasting sacrifice. That is why they did it each year.
Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Jeremiah 7:5 For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.

Isaiah 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

Isaiah 59:6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
 

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Acts 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
it is not in context to God taking a skin :)
 

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Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Jeremiah 7:5 For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.

Isaiah 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

Isaiah 59:6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
none of that says God can't take skin from an animal :)
 
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