Matthew 25:42 and how you vote

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Pilgrimshope

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Are you saying we don't give BILLIONS to other countries?
sure we do brother I was just asking if you watch a lot of those networks ? These days what network one watches is going to be thier basic arguments politically speaking I eas just curious if you watch cnn msnbc ? Not meaning to offend

yes in my belief brother our government needs a complete overhaul back to the intended form of government in the constitution. When the people decide based on the candidates record and ideas for improving and maintaining our nations safety , rule of law , border security , human rights , morality also needs an overhaul but it’s written that it’s going to get worse and worse so what I see is a corrupt people electing more corrupt leaders who scmooze us with flattery and lies on television adds “ I’m for the poor I fight for the weak elect me and I’ll solve your issues “

we should take money out and just allow equal time for any candidate nd make then go around like the old days meet people and actually answer real questions not stand and receive cheers and applauds and Mimic talking points and repeat political add slogans funded by billionaires and special interest groups

sorry brother I try to avoid politics because I’ve watched it devolve onto a stew of corruption and a Carnival sideshow over the years

but yeah I think we just gave another five billion to Ukrain which makes like fifty or something so yeah the government is throwing our money around like it’s thiers and it’s endless how does that equate to politicians out there saying “ cut the benefits of the poor elect me and I’ll do it for you “

no one is saying that it’s what the ither side says to get you away from thier actions “ thier trying to get you better vote for us instead “ forget the soaring crime , forget the open borders of millions who are then Supported by taxpayers money also , forget about political violence regarding blm , forget about crt and transgender perversions being taught in schools

they are trying to get you if your poor , or if your dark skinned , or if your another race or language or faith they are not king to get you vote for us instead “


Politics is a not funny joke these days bro they aren’t out to help us they want to keep the power so they can be the elite who get to gate tbier communities and release criminals into ours

They advocate open borders and the. If they see an inmagrant in tbier neifhborhood they call the national guard to remove them but then have a press conference talking about the evils of having immigration restrictions

they want power and need votes is the only reason they mention poor folk
 

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sure we do brother I was just asking if you watch a lot of those networks ? These days what network one watches is going to be thier basic arguments politically speaking I eas just curious if you watch cnn msnbc ? Not meaning to offend

yes in my belief brother our government needs a complete overhaul back to the intended form of government in the constitution. When the people decide based on the candidates record and ideas for improving and maintaining our nations safety , rule of law , border security , human rights , morality also needs an overhaul but it’s written that it’s going to get worse and worse so what I see is a corrupt people electing more corrupt leaders who scmooze us with flattery and lies on television adds “ I’m for the poor I fight for the weak elect me and I’ll solve your issues “

we should take money out and just allow equal time for any candidate nd make then go around like the old days meet people and actually answer real questions not stand and receive cheers and applauds and Mimic talking points and repeat political add slogans funded by billionaires and special interest groups

sorry brother I try to avoid politics because I’ve watched it devolve onto a stew of corruption and a Carnival sideshow over the years

but yeah I think we just gave another five billion to Ukrain which makes like fifty or something so yeah the government is throwing our money around like it’s thiers and it’s endless how does that equate to politicians out there saying “ cut the benefits of the poor elect me and I’ll do it for you “

no one is saying that it’s what the ither side says to get you away from thier actions “ thier trying to get you better vote for us instead “ forget the soaring crime , forget the open borders of millions who are then Supported by taxpayers money also , forget about political violence regarding blm , forget about crt and transgender perversions being taught in schools

they are trying to get you if your poor , or if your dark skinned , or if your another race or language or faith they are not king to get you vote for us instead “


Politics is a not funny joke these days bro they aren’t out to help us they want to keep the power so they can be the elite who get to gate tbier communities and release criminals into ours

They advocate open borders and the. If they see an inmagrant in tbier neifhborhood they call the national guard to remove them but then have a press conference talking about the evils of having immigration restrictions

they want power and need votes is the only reason they mention poor folk
The way I look at it, is who's really in control of the government? We do not battle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers. This is still Satan's world ahd he is in control. When Jesus returns every politician will be thrown out of their job.
 

Pilgrimshope

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The way I look at it, is who's really in control of the government? We do not battle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers. This is still Satan's world ahd he is in control. When Jesus returns every politician will be thrown out of their job.
yes I couldnt agree more

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:6-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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A lot of “poor people” wouldn’t be “poor” if they got off their able-bodied butts and worked rather than needlessly collect welfare. FACT!
 

Pilgrimshope

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Have you read the story of the rich man and Lazareth? why is the rich man in hell?
because he wasnt like the Good Samaritan , he was like the priest and the levite and had no mercy or compassion because he did t help him be well fed and cared for

“And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.


But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, and went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭10:25-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That v this having no mercy on Lazarus now he’s begging for mercy

“There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

and there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

( why would he need to fantasize about getting crumbs from The table ? The rich man didn’t love the poor man with his riches he loved the riches more than the man )

And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:

the rich man also died, and was buried;

…..And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: ( again why ? He was living at the gate of a rich man faring sumptuosly the rich man wasn’t living his brother he gave him no mercy )
but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:19-22, 24-25‬ ‭

Remember the law of mercy ?



“For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, and one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:13, 15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if the rigc man had cared for the poor with his riches they would have went together but even though he words the right colors , he had a different god than Abraham
 

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A lot of “poor people” wouldn’t be “poor” if they got off their able-bodied butts and worked rather than needlessly collect welfare. FACT!
yep and then the ones who actually try ally can’t work would be well taken care of without continually asking for billions of dollars of taxes that no one ever tells us where it really goes

in California they claim they have spent 116,000 dollars per homeless person and that’s where all the money goes ?

who is there to say “ are you serious “?

there’s no oversight of this insane and incoherent administration we need desperately to have a conservative house and senate to restrict the damage they are doing and will do if they keep any advantage in the house or senate

we need a split government to keep each other in check more I never dreamed of an American administration so inept and bungle prone as this current one

Kamala Harris just today was in South Korea and announced America’s strong alliance with “ North Korea “ it’s funny but also extremely dangerous when it happens repeatedly those other leaders may not understand the ineptitude of the current folks don’t represent the people
 

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For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’
“Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’
“And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’
“And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”
Matthew 25:42-46....

remember this when a politician wants to cut Social Security, Medicare or Food Stamps. If you support them, you might join them.
The church messed up when we gave our responsibilities over to the government.
The government does not do a good job and feeding the poor . Government is the cause of many of the poor. Gov pushed men out of the home. ... Families and the church should be taking care of the widows and fatherless. Gov hand outs create more harm then good.
Only in the USA is it considered poverty when you do not have color TVs or the internet.
I collect social security. Still it should not be it is not Godly for a third party, to take from one man and give to another. IF a man doesn't work he does not eat. I dont believe there should be ANY withholding from a paycheck. We are like frogs in the pot and with holding is heating the water bit by bit.
Better to get a tax bill in the amount owed then get excited because you are getting back some of your wages.
School breakfast/ lunch programs are just almost evil.. No child should be hungry One of the reasons parents have no control or respect is because we allowed the gov to feed the kids. Why thank the Lord for your food when i came from Uncle Sam. Churches/Christians should be following the Scriptures. not following the government. Remember when you vote which party supports killing the image of God and long as the so called mother says kill it. Too many young girls have been harden because the government pushed killing. Look at the cities human life means nothing to many that got a good foothold about 1972
 

JohnB

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The church messed up when we gave our responsibilities over to the government.
The government does not do a good job and feeding the poor . Government is the cause of many of the poor. Gov pushed men out of the home. ... Families and the church should be taking care of the widows and fatherless. Gov hand outs create more harm then good.
Only in the USA is it considered poverty when you do not have color TVs or the internet.
I collect social security. Still it should not be it is not Godly for a third party, to take from one man and give to another. IF a man doesn't work he does not eat. I dont believe there should be ANY withholding from a paycheck. We are like frogs in the pot and with holding is heating the water bit by bit.
Better to get a tax bill in the amount owed then get excited because you are getting back some of your wages.
School breakfast/ lunch programs are just almost evil.. No child should be hungry One of the reasons parents have no control or respect is because we allowed the gov to feed the kids. Why thank the Lord for your food when i came from Uncle Sam. Churches/Christians should be following the Scriptures. not following the government. Remember when you vote which party supports killing the image of God and long as the so called mother says kill it. Too many young girls have been harden because the government pushed killing. Look at the cities human life means nothing to many that got a good foothold about 1972
" IF a man doesn't work he does not eat. "...."“The one who is UNWILLING to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10 ...Look up the verse before quoting it. GOD held Sodom and Gomorrah responsible for the caring for the poor and needy. It is the job of the government to provide for those in need.
 

JohnB

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The church messed up when we gave our responsibilities over to the government.
The government does not do a good job and feeding the poor . Government is the cause of many of the poor. Gov pushed men out of the home. ... Families and the church should be taking care of the widows and fatherless. Gov hand outs create more harm then good.
Only in the USA is it considered poverty when you do not have color TVs or the internet.
I collect social security. Still it should not be it is not Godly for a third party, to take from one man and give to another. IF a man doesn't work he does not eat. I dont believe there should be ANY withholding from a paycheck. We are like frogs in the pot and with holding is heating the water bit by bit.
Better to get a tax bill in the amount owed then get excited because you are getting back some of your wages.
School breakfast/ lunch programs are just almost evil.. No child should be hungry One of the reasons parents have no control or respect is because we allowed the gov to feed the kids. Why thank the Lord for your food when i came from Uncle Sam. Churches/Christians should be following the Scriptures. not following the government. Remember when you vote which party supports killing the image of God and long as the so called mother says kill it. Too many young girls have been harden because the government pushed killing. Look at the cities human life means nothing to many that got a good foothold about 1972

CARING FOR THE POOR IS GOVERNMENT'S BIBLICAL ROLE
https://sojo.net/articles/caring-poor-governments-biblical-role
 

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" IF a man doesn't work he does not eat. "...."“The one who is UNWILLING to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10 ...Look up the verse before quoting it. GOD held Sodom and Gomorrah responsible for the caring for the poor and needy. It is the job of the government to provide for those in need.
I did not quote it.

2Th_3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
 

JohnB

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I did not quote it.

2Th_3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
The verse is "The one who is UNWILLING to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10....other wise you can tell anyone who is too old to work or has a handicap, they cannot eat.

Berean Standard Bible
For even while we were with you, we gave you this command: “If anyone is unwilling to work, he shall not eat.”
 

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" IF a man doesn't work he does not eat. "...."“The one who is UNWILLING to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10 ...Look up the verse before quoting it. GOD held Sodom and Gomorrah responsible for the caring for the poor and needy. It is the job of the government to provide for those in need.
Yep, I life in ghetto for more than 20 years
I know some young and healthy not work, collect money from welfare and smoke mariyuana
stealing and sale drug. Some try to sale warfare check half price.
it is pampering not helping but spoil the character

better helping in character building
 

JohnB

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Give the exact scripture that states your case. Book, chapter, verse.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. Romans 13:6
 

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This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.
You’re more full of it with each post. On a sidenote, you’re free to write a check to the IRS above and beyond your taxation requirements any time you want in order to help the poor. BUT YOU WILL NEVER DO THAT!
 

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The verse is "The one who is UNWILLING to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10....other wise you can tell anyone who is too old to work or has a handicap, they cannot eat.

Berean Standard Bible
For even while we were with you, we gave you this command: “If anyone is unwilling to work, he shall not eat.”
So then you would support those receiving various forms of welfare, that are capable of working, and not just some made up mental issue, work?

Even if they have to for 8 hrs go out and collect trash in the street?
 

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This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. Romans 13:6
What kind of tax, federal or state
listen Karen Hudes ex world bank senior council, 60% federal tax go to Vatican, 40% to UK