Prophecy warfare

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Fundaamental

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Doctrine definition in the Oxford dictionary, A set of beliefs held by a church.

Which means every single person studying the Bible becomes indoctrinated.

You can all twist the word indoctrinated to suit your petty squabbles all you like.

The source of the op I don't fully agree with, which is why I only posted the first part,

Which is all the attributes a Christian has to receive the spirit of prophecy (Jesus) to decipher false prophecy, from the realms of wickedness looking to steal your future plans,
 

hornetguy

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#82
@hornetguy
I know what your alarm bells are, you have this little voice in your head, sayin oh here's another troll, I must save Christian chat.

Then your alarm bells cause you to chase after someone you've called a troll, everyday for 3 weeks,

What a sad way to live your life.
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Yes..... I'm pretty sad, all right....
Kind of a semi-serious question..... how would you know if I HAD been calling you a troll "every day for 3 weeks" (untrue, by the way)
because you put me on "ignore" after the first time I pointed out your trollish behavior.... enquiring minds want to know.....

But, you need to keep on with your silly rants and self-proclaimed prophesies..... apparently some folks around here really enjoy trying to reason with you..... I think that is called "feeding the troll" , but to each his own..
 

Fundaamental

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Spiritual prochecies from the realms of wickedness.
Wait does anyone want to see that a Christian can be subject to these spiritual prochecies from unclean spirits.
Further does anyone want to read them and then say Christians don't need the the spirit of prophecy or don't have it.
Does anyone even want to suggest we need the spirit of prophecy to decipher all these.
Jeremiah 5:31
The prophets prophesy falsely,
And the priests rule on their own authority;
And My people love it so!
But what will you do at the end of it?

Jeremiah 14:14
Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.

Jeremiah 27:10
For they prophesy a lie to you in order to remove you far from your land; and I will drive you out and you will perish.

Jeremiah 27:14
So do not listen to the words of the prophets who speak to you, saying, ‘You will not serve the king of Babylon,’ for they prophesy a lie to you;
Jeremiah 27:16
Then I spoke to the priests and to all this people, saying, “Thus says the Lord: Do not listen to the words of your prophets who prophesy to you, saying, ‘Behold, the vessels of the Lord’s house will now shortly be brought again from Babylon’; for they are prophesying a lie to you.

Isaiah 9:15
The head is the elder and honorable man,
And the prophet who teaches falsehood is the tail.

Jeremiah 29:8
For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream.

Jeremiah 27:15
for I have not sent them,” declares the Lord, “but they prophesy falsely in My name, in order that I may drive you out and that you may perish, you and the prophets who prophesy to you.”

Jeremiah 29:9
For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 29:23
because they have acted foolishly in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives and have spoken words in My name falsely, which I did not command them; and I am He who knows and am a witness,” declares the Lord.’”

Jeremiah 37:19
Where then are your prophets who prophesied to you, saying, ‘The king of Babylon will not come against you or against this land’?

Nehemiah 6:7
You have also appointed prophets to proclaim in Jerusalem concerning you, ‘A king is in Judah!’ And now it will be reported to the king according to these reports. So come now, let us take counsel together.”

Hosea 4:5
So you will stumble by day,
And the prophet also will stumble with you by night;
And I will destroy your mother.

Micah 3:11
Her leaders pronounce judgment for a bribe,
Her priests instruct for a price
And her prophets divine for money.
Yet they lean on the Lord saying,
“Is not the Lord in our midst?
Calamity will not come upon us.”

Jeremiah 23:11
“For both prophet and priest are polluted;
Even in My house I have found their wickedness,” declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 6:13
For from the least of them even to the greatest of them,
Everyone is greedy for gain,
And from the prophet even to the priest
Everyone deals falsely.

Jeremiah 8:10
“Therefore I will give their wives to others,
Their fields to new owners;
Because from the least even to the greatest
Everyone is greedy for gain;
From the prophet even to the priest
Everyone practices deceit.

Jeremiah 23:15
Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets,
‘Behold, I am going to feed them wormwood
And make them drink poisonous water,
For from the prophets of Jerusalem
Pollution has gone forth into all the land.’”

Lamentations 4:13
Because of the sins of her prophets
And the iniquities of her priests,
Who have shed in her midst
The blood of the righteous;

Isaiah 28:7
And these also reel with wine and stagger from strong drink:
The priest and the prophet reel with strong drink,
They are confused by wine, they stagger from strong drink;
They reel while having visions,
They totter when rendering judgment.

Jeremiah 13:13
then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord, “Behold I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings that sit for David on his throne, the priests, the prophets and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness
 

Niki7

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#84
Interesting! According to this video, I am a prophet .:D
I've been a prophet for years and a bunch of other things too. So say the prophets that fortune tell over others at church meetings which is why I will not ever let anyone pray over me again.

I am not a prophet but God did tell me what I have received and yup, it's true.

We could have prophet contests and see which prophesy comes true. Yeah, Jesus didn't die for this mess. :cautious:
 

Niki7

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#85
Always strive to be a prophet. It makes it a lot harder for anyone to make a profit on your faith. If you're not a prophet yourself, just stick with the ones in the Bible.
nonsense. If you actually are something you are that thing and you don't strive. I'm 5'7". I just grew and stopped there. I didn't blow on my thumb and pop up.

I will agree though, that many do in fact strive to be prophets. Apparently it is to be coveted more than salvation by some.
 

wolfwint

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Spiritual prochecies from the realms of wickedness.
Wait does anyone want to see that a Christian can be subject to these spiritual prochecies from unclean spirits.
Further does anyone want to read them and then say Christians don't need the the spirit of prophecy or don't have it.
Does anyone even want to suggest we need the spirit of prophecy to decipher all these.
Jeremiah 5:31
The prophets prophesy falsely,
And the priests rule on their own authority;
And My people love it so!
But what will you do at the end of it?

Jeremiah 14:14
Then the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.

Jeremiah 27:10
For they prophesy a lie to you in order to remove you far from your land; and I will drive you out and you will perish.

Jeremiah 27:14
So do not listen to the words of the prophets who speak to you, saying, ‘You will not serve the king of Babylon,’ for they prophesy a lie to you;
Jeremiah 27:16
Then I spoke to the priests and to all this people, saying, “Thus says the Lord: Do not listen to the words of your prophets who prophesy to you, saying, ‘Behold, the vessels of the Lord’s house will now shortly be brought again from Babylon’; for they are prophesying a lie to you.

Isaiah 9:15
The head is the elder and honorable man,
And the prophet who teaches falsehood is the tail.

Jeremiah 29:8
For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream.

Jeremiah 27:15
for I have not sent them,” declares the Lord, “but they prophesy falsely in My name, in order that I may drive you out and that you may perish, you and the prophets who prophesy to you.”

Jeremiah 29:9
For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 29:23
because they have acted foolishly in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives and have spoken words in My name falsely, which I did not command them; and I am He who knows and am a witness,” declares the Lord.’”

Jeremiah 37:19
Where then are your prophets who prophesied to you, saying, ‘The king of Babylon will not come against you or against this land’?

Nehemiah 6:7
You have also appointed prophets to proclaim in Jerusalem concerning you, ‘A king is in Judah!’ And now it will be reported to the king according to these reports. So come now, let us take counsel together.”

Hosea 4:5
So you will stumble by day,
And the prophet also will stumble with you by night;
And I will destroy your mother.

Micah 3:11
Her leaders pronounce judgment for a bribe,
Her priests instruct for a price
And her prophets divine for money.
Yet they lean on the Lord saying,
“Is not the Lord in our midst?
Calamity will not come upon us.”

Jeremiah 23:11
“For both prophet and priest are polluted;
Even in My house I have found their wickedness,” declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 6:13
For from the least of them even to the greatest of them,
Everyone is greedy for gain,
And from the prophet even to the priest
Everyone deals falsely.

Jeremiah 8:10
“Therefore I will give their wives to others,
Their fields to new owners;
Because from the least even to the greatest
Everyone is greedy for gain;
From the prophet even to the priest
Everyone practices deceit.

Jeremiah 23:15
Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets,
‘Behold, I am going to feed them wormwood
And make them drink poisonous water,
For from the prophets of Jerusalem
Pollution has gone forth into all the land.’”

Lamentations 4:13
Because of the sins of her prophets
And the iniquities of her priests,
Who have shed in her midst
The blood of the righteous;

Isaiah 28:7
And these also reel with wine and stagger from strong drink:
The priest and the prophet reel with strong drink,
They are confused by wine, they stagger from strong drink;
They reel while having visions,
They totter when rendering judgment.

Jeremiah 13:13
then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord, “Behold I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings that sit for David on his throne, the priests, the prophets and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness
Why you mentioned only verses from the OT and out of the context and purpose they were given?
We are no jews and we are under the NT if I am not wrong.
 

Niki7

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The whole Bible is based upon prophecy from start to finish.

Prophecy is vital to learn and be understood. It leads people to salvation, and keeps people safe.

The Gift of prophecy needs to be understood and appreciated, a person with the gift of prophecy needs to wait on the lord continuously, because the spirit of Jezabel and her spirits of prophecy will alway try to deceive the gift of prophecy from the lord.
The gift of prophecy can not be demanded, and must be discerned into every situation, for an answer from the lord.

However the spirit of Jezabel looks to steal the future plans of prophecy by deceiving the the gift of prophecy a person may have.

From testimonials I have read the spirit of Jezabel has followed people around from the day they where born because there parents had the spirit of prophecy from the lord.

I have also read many testimonies from people who got a spirit of Jezebel following them round giving them false prophecies from being in contact with false profits.

I've read up on all the attributes of a familiar spirit of Jezabel and a false profit,
Sounds like your imagination was caught up in that whirlwind that took Elijah. Kind of like egg salad but with no mayo and therefore just really kind of tasteless.
 

Fundaamental

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Why you mentioned only verses from the OT and out of the context and purpose they were given?
We are no jews and we are under the NT if I am not wrong.
The prochecies are all spiritual whether there in the old or the new t or whether the from God or satan.
It doesn't matter. Unless you think the old testament prochecies are not relevant to Christians,



The best explanation you need for this is actually the whole Bible has very little written after the crucifixion of Jesus.

Therefore the whole Bible should be relevant to a Christian,


It's simple you need the spirit of prophecy from Jesus embedded into your mind. To be able to recognise false prophecy from the unclean spirits,

remember also first come the Jew then the gentile.

like tomorrow you discuss your future plans with someone, little do you know Mrs Jezebel is listening and cocks up a false prophecy of what you must do to fulfill a future plans and whispers it in your ear.

Straight away the spirit of prophecy that is embedded in all Christians Jesus, will recognise fasle prophecy and tell you so.
 

Fundaamental

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Sounds like your imagination was caught up in that whirlwind that took Elijah. Kind of like egg salad but with no mayo and therefore just really kind of tasteless.
sound like you have an imagination of Jezebel
 

Niki7

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whole Bible has very little written after the crucifixion of Jesus.
Well you are leaving out the best parts then.

Illegitimacy really goes deep with some
 

Niki7

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sound like you have an imagination of Jezebel
Well now if you were actually what you falsely claim to be, you would say I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ who is filled with the Holy Spirit and who has various talents and gifts that are given by God the Father through His Holy Spirit.

I know I make you angry. And I know why. :giggle:
 

Niki7

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Anyone else reporting this nonsense? I don't understand why he is allowed to continue with this mockery of the Bible and Christians

I wonder what visitors or new Christians think of this? That actually is a concern
 

ResidentAlien

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I don't believe fundaamental is a troll in the strict sense. He seems to be sincere in his beliefs, however misguided. The thing that concerns me is the interest he seems to have in indoctrinating others into his way of thinking. It's one thing to believe false doctrine yourself; it's quite another to see it as your mission in life to convert others.
 

Fundaamental

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:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Yes..... I'm pretty sad, all right....
Kind of a semi-serious question..... how would you know if I HAD been calling you a troll "every day for 3 weeks" (untrue, by the way)
because you put me on "ignore" after the first time I pointed out your trollish behavior.... enquiring minds want to know.....

But, you need to keep on with your silly rants and self-proclaimed prophesies..... apparently some folks around here really enjoy trying to reason with you..... I think that is called "feeding the troll" , but to each his own..
Seeing as your a troll hunter shouldn't you be moving on now seeing as you've done your job of proving I'm a troll.

Let me guess you like to scalp trolls to, your a bit of an Indian killer from the USA.
 

Fundaamental

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I don't believe fundaamental is a troll in the strict sense. He seems to be sincere in his beliefs, however misguided. The thing that concerns me is the interest he seems to have in indoctrinating others into his way of thinking. It's one thing to believe false doctrine yourself; it's quite another to see it as your mission in life to convert others.
there you go, doctrine means a church belief.
Your indoctrinated to.

Your choosing to see the word indoctrinated as a bad thing. It's not it's a passion.
 

Fundaamental

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Anyone else reporting this nonsense? I don't understand why he is allowed to continue with this mockery of the Bible and Christians

I wonder what visitors or new Christians think of this? That actually is a concern
I don't why your mockery is allowed either.
I think you've won the ladies synthetic ears.

But not mine.
But I'm not mocking, your spirit of Jezebel is
 

ResidentAlien

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Your choosing to see the word indoctrinated as a bad thing.
That's because your form of indoctrination is a bad thing. You want people to turn off critical thinking and just accept whatever you say. If they don't they have a "religious spirit" or a "Jezebel spirit." You've even put people down for "criticizing" you. If that isn't pressuring people to turn off critical thinking I don't know what is.

I've pretty much concluded you're a garden variety guru wannabe looking for followers. Good luck.
 

Niki7

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That's because your form of indoctrination is a bad thing. You want people to turn off critical thinking and just accept whatever you say. If they don't they have a "religious spirit" or a "Jezebel spirit." You've even put people down for "criticizing" you. If that isn't pressuring people to turn off critical thinking I don't know what is.

I've pretty much concluded you're a garden variety guru wannabe looking for followers. Good luck.
It doesn't matter what he wants. It is not happening any more than his name calling and false accusations mean anything.

It would be sad if this sort of thing wasn't dangerous to people who are perhaps new Christians or some who think only good people are on Christian forums or what have you.
 

wolfwint

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The prochecies are all spiritual whether there in the old or the new t or whether the from God or satan.
It doesn't matter. Unless you think the old testament prochecies are not relevant to Christians,



The best explanation you need for this is actually the whole Bible has very little written after the crucifixion of Jesus.

Therefore the whole Bible should be relevant to a Christian,


It's simple you need the spirit of prophecy from Jesus embedded into your mind. To be able to recognise false prophecy from the unclean spirits,

remember also first come the Jew then the gentile.

like tomorrow you discuss your future plans with someone, little do you know Mrs Jezebel is listening and cocks up a false prophecy of what you must do to fulfill a future plans and whispers it in your ear.

Straight away the spirit of prophecy that is embedded in all Christians Jesus, will recognise fasle prophecy and tell you so.
Yes, the gift I got to discern the spirits tells me that you teaching is wrong.