Honest question....why don't churches teach the best way to avoid fornication is to get married?

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JohnB

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Being attracted only to women who are not attracted to you sounds like a serious problem. Would you consider yourself to be predatorial?
Would you marry someone you're not attracted to?
 

JohnB

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That doesn't say that the reason for marriage is to avoid fornication. It says that marriage is the solution to the problem of fornication.
what you said is the same thing. Having the solution, avoids fornication.
 

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what you said is the same thing. Having the solution, avoids fornication.
I disagree. The way you are putting it is that the only (or primary) reason for marriage is so that people can avoid fornication. The full counsel of Scripture doesn't present marriage that way.

The fact that God appointed the first marriage before the first human sin renders your position null and void. ;)
 

JohnB

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I disagree. The way you are putting it is that the only (or primary) reason for marriage is so that people can avoid fornication. The full counsel of Scripture doesn't present marriage that way.

The fact that God appointed the first marriage before the first human sin renders your position null and void. ;)
'But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband. " 1 Corinthians 7:2

"Not everyone can accept this word,” He replied, “but only those to whom it has been given " Matt 19:12 (Jesus on being single)

I agree with Jesus and Paul, you should too.
 

Godsgirl1983

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Because everytime I prayed about it and looked, the one i picked would be moved out of the way or they were someone I had no attraction to. I could be in a group of 10 women, 9 of them I was attracted to. The only one to show an interest in me would be the one I had no attraction in. would you marry someone you were not attracted to?
so what happens if you meet this "perfect woman"? you are attracted to her in every way/shape/form. She steals your heart and you just know you can't go on in life without her AND she feels the same about you.
There's only one problem...
something in life has killed her sex drive (maybe past abuse, maybe some physical/medical situation,)
she's "perfect" in every other way imaginable, but has little to no interest in sex.
Then what?
 

Dino246

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'But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband. " 1 Corinthians 7:2

"Not everyone can accept this word,” He replied, “but only those to whom it has been given " Matt 19:12 (Jesus on being single)

I agree with Jesus and Paul, you should too.
Which part of "null and void" did you miss?
 

JohnB

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so what happens if you meet this "perfect woman"? you are attracted to her in every way/shape/form. She steals your heart and you just know you can't go on in life without her AND she feels the same about you.
There's only one problem...
something in life has killed her sex drive (maybe past abuse, maybe some physical/medical situation,)
she's "perfect" in every other way imaginable, but has little to no interest in sex.
Then what?
Never said I was looking for a perfect woman. Looking for mutual attraction.
 

JohnB

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so what happens if you meet this "perfect woman"? you are attracted to her in every way/shape/form. She steals your heart and you just know you can't go on in life without her AND she feels the same about you.
There's only one problem...
something in life has killed her sex drive (maybe past abuse, maybe some physical/medical situation,)
she's "perfect" in every other way imaginable, but has little to no interest in sex.
Then what?
If she has no sex drive, maybe she shouldn't get married. Sex is a major part of marriage for some people.
 
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If she has no sex drive, maybe she shouldn't get married. Sex is a major part of marriage for some people.
For some people, but not everyone.
 

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Would you marry someone you're not attracted to?
Yes, I would. If it was God's will for me to marry and that was the woman He gave me. It's a lot better to have a good woman the Lord gives you than some bimbo who will step out on you the first chance she gets.
 

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Yes, I would. If it was God's will for me to marry and that was the woman He gave me. It's a lot better to have a good woman the Lord gives you than some bimbo who will step out on you the first chance she gets.
Besides that things change, beauty fades. What if the woman you're attracted to physically had something happen to her and she was no longer attractive? Would you stop loving her? You can become attracted to someone simply by spending time with them, even if you aren't attracted in the beginning. Life and love are about a lot more than sex.
 

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Another thing to look at is the family. What if they have an unstable uncle who loves guns, has a short temper and gets drunk at family gathering. If you marry into that family the crazy uncle becomes part of your family.

I remember watching one of those reality cop shows back in the 1990s. A mentally unstable uncle stole his 3-year old nephew and a police chase ensued. The video started after the car chase ended in a swamp with the uncle about waist deep into the marshy depths with his 3-year old nephew in his arms. The show added that he was in the swamp hoping for an alligator or crocodile to come by and feed the nephew to it. The toddler wasn't scared because he was familiar with his uncle, but he was very quiet and had a puzzled but concentrated look on his face as if he didn't understand what was going on but was trying to figure it all out.

You can see a rowboat with - I can't remember accurately - two to three police in it, slowly rowing out to the uncle so that he doesn't do anything drastic. In the meanwhile, you can hear off-camera, the nephew's mom crying and begging the uncle to give back her son. That audio really got to me - the intense fear and distress in the mother's voice!

They brought the rowboat right next to the uncle and said to hand the child over. But what the uncle did next was so shocking! He plunged the toddler under the murky water trying to drown him!

So the policemen in the boat immediately went to town on the uncle beating him on the head with their batons until he was near passing out and lost his grip on the toddler, while another one jumped out of the boat and brought the toddler out of that nasty sludge!

By that act alone, the toddler knew his uncle was no longer someone he can be safe with and he clung to the policeman that got him. So in the end, this wrapped up nicely with the toddler back with his mother and the uncle in custody and had probably done time (also maybe in a psychiatric institution).

So this was so impactful to me that I told my brother and sister about it and warned them - that, as you have posted - that you also have take seriously into consideration, the family of your intended spouse. You don't just marry that person - you have to also deal with their family in that marriage. So my siblings and I learned to not give our hearts away so easily and try to get to know the person we're considering for marriage and their family as well.

 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I'm sorry to hear that about your dad. That would be really hard to see that happen.

Yeah, there's more stuff about my Pop but what God showed me is that if we hand everything over to Him that causes distress that God would work things out for the best.

I used to wonder why God had chosen my biological father for me, but I learned that God made His choice because He saw potential opportunities for me to exercise my faith in Him. And it seemed to have worked - I forgive my father for all the terrible things he did. I also love him and pray for his salvation even though so far he's exhibited stubbornness - I really hope he gets saved!

 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Not everyone is happy being single. Jesus and Paul said being happy in the singles life is a gift from GOD.

Yeah, but if you haven't realized it yet, gifts can be rejected - just like with salvation, which is also a gift. The Lord might have been trying to offer it to you this whole time, but you refuse to acknowledge and accept it.

 

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Second that motion, a woman sure loves a man who can cook!! :D;)
Yep. That's one of the reasons my wife agreed to marry me. That, and the fact that I can reach the upper shelves, and she can't..... :LOL:
 

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Yeah, but if you haven't realized it yet, gifts can be rejected - just like with salvation, which is also a gift. The Lord might have been trying to offer it to you this whole time, but you refuse to acknowledge and accept it.

I remember when I went forward in church, when I was 30 (I'm now 70), begging GOD not to leave me in the single's life. I hate it. The one thing I asked him not to do, he does. To me, being single has never been a gift, it has been a curse.