water baptism in Jesus' Name.

What exactly are you disagreeing with, @Niki7?

My experience or my assessment of your hatred of me?

If the latter, why the "x"? which to me, is an expression of hatred?

I said your so called teaching is heretical, but if you want to accept heretic as your label I'll allow it.

You said you were baptized in a Oneness church. No Calvary Chapel pastor baptized you. You know, there is an expression that goes like this: If you tell the truth, you don't need to remember what you said. Apparently, you keep forgetting what you said.

So, you were NOT baptized in a Calvary Chapel church; you were baptized in a Oneness church. There was not Calvary Chapel pastor baptizing you in your Oneness church, from where you get your Oneness Pentecostal teachings from which you have created, pretty much, your own gospel.

Caught yet again in yet another mistruth. This is becoming quite the habit for you.

I wonder if the op is a fan of TD Jakes. He was a Oneness preacher but in 2012 he repented of this view and embraced the Trinity

AURORA, Ill. (BP) – Bishop T.D. Jakes says he has moved away from a "Oneness" view of the Godhead to embrace an orthodox definition of the Trinity – and that some in the Oneness Pentecostal movement now consider him a heretic. source

And he questions the use of my word heretical in reference to his what he calls 'his teachings'

Are we dealing with a troll here? smh

God bless you, @Niki7.

Don't be ridiculous. I have been baptized more than once.

Apparent contradiction, reconciled.

Really grasping at straws to make me look like a bad guy.

And you say that you don't really hate me?

I, having been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, do also hold to an orthodox view of the Trinity.

Some may disagree with that assessment.

Those who do have gone to the opposite extreme to the point of being even tritheistic in their theology.

My emphasis on the Oneness of the Lord in the Trinity is intended to combat the tritheism that has infiltrated the minds of some who call themselves "Trinitarian".

You are the troll.

However, may the Lord abundantly bless you, @Niki7.

As far as I know there is no scriptures that references your questions.

I suspect you can not answer your own questions with scripture.

But I look forward to your reply.

This is just a nonsensical statement to justify your false beliefs. There are no Christians who hold to the silly view of three Gods (which would be Tritheism).

There is a heretical diagram circulating through the body of Christ on the internet, that teaches that,

"the Father IS NOT the Son IS NOT the Holy Ghost",

Making the members in the Godhead separate rather than distinct,

effectively separating them into three beings who are God (as the mormons teach);

thus three Gods from the perspective of anyone who can see clearly and understand the implications of what is actually preached.

And certain gullible Christians who don't know the scriptures nor the creeds accept this as orthodox doctrine.

It is really and truly a travesty;

Because some who accept this doctrine will actually fight for it as if they are defending the truth in genuine Apologetics.

Whose questions?

Your two verses are perfectly clear and straight forward.
We must repent for the remission of sins.
but
These verses do not negate the same perfectly clear and straight forward message of Acts 2:38 and others.
Since you agree that Luke 24:46-48 & Acts 3:18,19 are clear, why can you not see the same for Acts 2:38.
Were they not all written by the same author? Why can you not accept Luke's simple words:

‘Turn back!’ replied Peter. ‘Be baptized – every single one of you – in the name of Jesus the Messiah, so that your sins can be forgiven, and you will receive the gift of the holy spirit.

Luke 24:46-48, Acts 2:38 and Acts3:18,19 are in harmony.

Repentance and baptism are needed for the remission of sins.

And I can say just as easily that your beliefs are false. And even though they are, my saying that they are would not make that true.

And because my beliefs are not false, your saying that they are false is merely a false statement; and an accusation without evidence.

This was a reply to niki7 from post#417.
I may have hit the wrong key or something. Please overlook, I am new.

Hey, we should be all about grace and mercy here.

I have not read anything beyond the first page. And, I am not so sure that I really care to. Because, I do not wish to waste time arguing with you.

In 50 pages - has no one told you that the phrase "not the putting away of the filth of the flesh" tells us explicitly that it is not talking about 'soul-salvation'...?!?!?!

I am guessing someone has but you are not listening.

You need to exit 'teaching' mode and enter 'learning' mode on this topic. Go back and study it again in the context of the chapter and the book.

Hi mailmandan,

In Ephesians 5:26, the word "word" of God according to Strong's G4487,
Strong's g4487

- Lexical: ῥῆμα
- Transliteration: rhéma
- Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
- Phonetic Spelling: hray'-mah
- Definition: a thing spoken, (a) a word or saying of any kind, as command, report, promise, (b) a thing, matter, business.
- Origin: From rheo; an utterance (individually, collectively or specially); by implication, a matter or topic (especially of narration, command or dispute); with a negative naught whatever.
- Usage: + evil, + nothing, saying, word.
- Translated as (count): words (28), word (25), saying (5), matters (2), a message (1), by word (1), declaration (1), matter (1), of words (1), sayings (1), the word (1), thing (1), things (1).

Ephesians 5:26 - He did this to make the church holy by cleansing it, washing it using water, with the "............" 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.

Anyone of the above words could have been used in Ephesians 5:26 for the word "word" like, saying, message, or declaration.

Here is a question for you: There are nine conversion stories in the book of Acts. In every story, they were always baptized the same day they believed. Why? Just maybe as one studies all of the verses on baptism there is a good reason for so doing.

God bless you, mailmandan!
Wayne

I have three different translations that translate this verse using: word, saying, and declaration and it is used in other places in the New Testament with these words and others, too.

Also, it is not "logos"




Young's Living Translation: "that he might sanctify it, having cleansed it with the bathing of the water in the "saying"
God's Word: