In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

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Fundaamental,
you have a unique but fragile mind. it's my desire to support you. but, i only deal in certain realms. you appear to understand more realms. let's just debate biblical fact not knowledge, because then i will have to be required to use Wisdom on you. and that aint no fun!
 

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Fundaamental,

you have a unique but fragile mind. it's my desire to support you. but, i only deal in certain realms. you appear to understand more realms. let's just debate biblical fact not knowledge, because then i will have to be required to use Wisdom on you. and that aint no fun!
well it's a good job I'm learning psychology because I know cognitive therapy can be useful for people who belittle a mind that has the prospect of also becoming a Jewel
 
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well it's a good job I'm learning psychology because I know cognitive therapy can be useful for people who belittle a mind that has the prospect of also becoming a Jewel
I used Discernment and understand you. it's why i backed off both times i wanted to unleash Wisdom. i love you Bro, love your mind and visions, but we need to debate factual written words in the Bible.
 

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I used Discernment and understand you. it's why i backed off both times i wanted to unleash Wisdom. i love you Bro, love your mind and visions, but we need to debate factual written words in the Bible.
ok love ❤️

Would it be inconceivable to believe people have stopped being taken upto heaven since Enoch or elisha who never had the holy spirit in full
 
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ok love ❤️

Would it be inconceivable to believe people have stopped being taken upto heaven since Enoch or elisha who never had the holy spirit in full
God can do as God pleases. That much I absolutely believe in.
 

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God can do as God pleases. That much I absolutely believe in.
do you believe diomonds or sapphires are eternal ?

Do you believe diomonds exists in the heavens

Do you understand diomonds are not of this world Just like Jesus.

Do you understand This is all backed up with factual scripture

Do you understand the earths core is full of diamond like substance.
 
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do you believe diomonds or sapphires are eternal ?

Do you believe diomonds exists in the heavens

Do you understand diomonds are not of this world Just like Jesus.

Do you understand This is all backed up with factual scripture

Do you understand the earths core is full of diamond like substance.
as part of New Jerusalem and Heaven, the Realm of God, most definitely.
 

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As a Mathematician and Researcher, Science has not proven anything pertaining to the Universe.

Since i follow God, I know His ways are far superior than a simple 153 IQ

I personally accept this Verse as absolute truth and fact.

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the Lord,
“If the heavens above can be measured
And the foundations of the earth searched out below,

Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel
For all that they have done,” declares the Lord.

The Jews are still a people so it's clear Science is unable to measure the Universe and the Foundations.

You see, Science looks at the Universe and works from Center Outward and the distance from Center to Edge can only be measured by years. They created the Laws of Physics and began measuring distance by light. They concluded that it's natural for smaller objects to surround themselves to a greater mass object that became Galaxies. All sounds legit.

But, what has Science fooled. God created the Universe at full expansion. it only appears to be billions of years old because the vast size of the Universe. With a Vast Expanded Universe from word Go, the Laws of Physics and Measurement are still able to apply. But the fact that God tells us the Universe cannot be Measured, shows us how He tricked Science. Expanded Universe and humans naturally assume it has to work from Center Outward. They have been deceived by God. And people like me that do their same Mathematics and similar research, laugh at the idiots.
Oh same, may I ask which branch you conduct research in? For which university?
 
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Oh same, may I ask which branch you conduct research in? For which university?
Metallurgy, i design a formula to create a compound to allow medical devices to adhere genetically so muscle growth will CREATE a process in order for an implant to become one with the body.
 
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Metallurgy, i design a formula to create a compound to allow medical devices to adhere genetically so muscle growth will CREATE a process in order for an implant to become one with the body.
so, i am using Biology [not standard, everyone has a twist in each genetic and that needs adjusted for], Metallurgy [cobalt-stainless-titanium], Chemistry [medicine formulas], and creating a Mathematical Formula based off PLIABLE compounds.
 

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as part of New Jerusalem and Heaven, the Realm of God, most definitely.
Ok good I'm glad you see this part.

So you can see that foundations can be created in heaven.

But yet your dismissing this for the current foundations.

Because youve found one scripture that suggests the current foundations of the earth where created at the same time as earth.

But it makes no clear outright absolute fact it was.
 
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Ok good I'm glad you see this part.

So you can see that foundations can be created in heaven.

But yet your dismissing this for the current foundations.

Because youve found one scripture that suggests the current foundations of the earth where created at the same time as earth.

But it makes no clear outright absolute fact it was.
this is the future. it's a heavenly realm that will be on earth. [[the earth will need to be Purified before this City can sit upon it - that is how different they are from one another]] ...it needs to be a structure in order to sit upon a foundation to become a City. and still, it does not relate to Earth and the Sun. the Earth and this City are not the same shape or substance. so, you are mixing 2 different Values and thinking you hit the jackpot. all this is is Confusion.
 
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Since the conversation is spinning a little from the main topic, I am willing to talk a little more about the age of the world. I think we've sorted out that since the creation of the world (on day one), it went six normal 24-hour days, and that Adam was created on the sixth day. This of course does not harmony with science, who talks about
- a "Big Bang",
- the age of the earth should be millions of years (proven by the C14-method), and
- that we come from the apes,

but still - we are christians, and believe on the Bible - more than some scientifical methods. I will here present to you how the Bible itself shows us the age of the world. To get this answer, I used ChatGPT, so the numbers can be a little inaccurate, but I think you get the idea. The world is only about 6000 years old. Not 13.8 billions. And this can be calculated with the Bibles own words, plus secular history (which we know the real dates of).

My question to Chat-GPT: Calculate the age of the world, looking at the ages of the fathers in Jesus' bloodline in the Bible.

The answer:
The age of the Earth, according to a literal interpretation of the biblical genealogies, is typically estimated to be about 6,000 to 10,000 years. This estimate is based on adding up the ages of the patriarchs from Adam to Jesus, using figures from the Bible. Bishop James Ussher, a 17th century Archbishop of Armagh, Ireland, is particularly well-known for this kind of calculation.

According to Ussher, the world was created in 4004 BC. He calculated this based on the genealogies in the Old Testament books of Genesis, Exodus, 1 Kings, and 1 Chronicles, along with other historical information.

Here is a simplified example of how such a calculation might work:

  1. From Adam to Noah's father Lamech: Genesis 5 provides a list of patriarchs from Adam to Noah's father, Lamech. By adding up the ages at which each patriarch had his son (Adam was 130 when Seth was born, Seth was 105 when Enos was born, and so forth), we get 1,656 years.
  2. From Noah to Abraham: Genesis 11 gives a similar list from Noah's son Shem to Abraham's father Terah, adding another 390 years (when using the Masoretic Text).
  3. From Abraham to the Exodus: Genesis 21:5 tells us that Abraham was 100 when Isaac was born. Exodus 12:40-41 says that the Israelites were in Egypt for 430 years.
  4. From the Exodus to Solomon: 1 Kings 6:1 says that Solomon began building the temple in the 480th year after the Exodus.
  5. From Solomon to the Babylonian exile: 1 Kings and 2 Kings give the lengths of the reigns of the kings of Judah up to the Babylonian exile, which total about 345 years.
  6. From the Babylonian exile to Jesus: The dates for these events are a matter of secular history. Roughly speaking, there are about 600 years from the Babylonian exile to the birth of Jesus.
Add all these periods together and you get a total of 1,656 + 390 + 100 + 430 + 480 + 345 + 600 = 4,001 years from Adam to Jesus. If you add the years from Jesus to the current year (2023), you get around 6,024 years.

PS (from me): If someone would want to make the days of the creation longer than 24 hours (and thereby also the age of the world older), just to fit their thinking with the scientist, they would make God a liar (by saying the Bible's word is incorrect), and that would be a sin. Those people would also not believe in everything the Bible has to say, and would only listen to the words that "itches in their own ears", but not listen to the words that "don't itch that good to me":

2. Tim 4,3: For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
 

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this is the future. it's a heavenly realm that will be on earth. [[the earth will need to be Purified before this City can sit upon it - that is how different they are from one another]] ...it needs to be a structure in order to sit upon a foundation to become a City. and still, it does not relate to Earth and the Sun. the Earth and this City are not the same shape or substance. so, you are mixing 2 different Values and thinking you hit the jackpot. all this is is Confusion.
Lol I think I'm not the only one having a eureka moment.

The scripture says there will be a new earth.

Why would the old earth be purified when God can create a new earth in blink of an eye.

Besides I'm sure the scriptures says the earth will be destroyed by fire.
With no mention of the foundations being destroyed.
 
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Lol I think I'm not the only one having a eureka moment.

The scripture says there will be a new earth.

Why would the old earth be purified when God can create a new earth in blink of an eye.

Besides I'm sure the scriptures says the earth will be destroyed by fire.
With no mention of the foundations being destroyed.
You need to use the most original Greek for the New Testament.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that day the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the elements will melt and disintegrate, and the earth and everything done on it shall be exposed.
 

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You need to use the most original Greek for the New Testament.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. On that day the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the elements will melt and disintegrate, and the earth and everything done on it shall be exposed.
what source do you use for Greek translations to englishI am starting starting to check translations with Greek 😊 ànd then translating the Greek back to English.
still having that eureka moment?
no I know that diamonds main element is carbon so this scripture has me wondering.

I know gold contains elements to.