Ukraine the bad guy?

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Sun Tzu:

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.

If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.

Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
Moses, Joshua, and Jesus:

Deuteronomy 32:23-45


23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.

24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs.

26 I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

27 Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves strangely, and lest they should say, Our hand is high, and the Lord hath not done all this.

28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!

30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?

31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?

35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

36 For the Lord shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.

37 And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,

38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and be your protection.

39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.

43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

44 And Moses came and spake all the words of this song in the ears of the people, he, and Hoshea the son of Nun.

45 And Moses made an end of speaking all these words to all Israel:

 
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cv5

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Moses, Joshua, and Jesus:

Deuteronomy 32:23-45


23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.

24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs.

26 I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

27 Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves strangely, and lest they should say, Our hand is high, and the Lord hath not done all this.

28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!

30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?

31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?

35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

36 For the Lord shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.

37 And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,

38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and be your protection.

39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.

43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

44 And Moses came and spake all the words of this song in the ears of the people, he, and Hoshea the son of Nun.

45 And Moses made an end of speaking all these words to all Israel:

Do you realized those passages are meant as a prophetic warning of future wrath upon disobedient ISRAEL???
Not Russia, not gentiles, but ISRAEL ALONE.


Your appalling Biblical illiteracy betrays you.

Deu 32:9
For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
Deu 32:15
But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
Deu 32:16
They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
Deu 32:17
They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
Deu 32:18
Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
Deu 32:19
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
Deu 32:20
And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
Deu 32:21
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Deu 32:22
For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
 

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Betarussia is just a puppet state of Unholy Russia. Saruman of Isengard dies also at the end of this all, he does not escape or slither out of his fate and the wicked nation of Belarus also will be re-sanctified, PRAISE JESUS!

Your bizarre fantasy metaphors have nothing whatsoever to do with this present reality.
 
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Your bizarre fantasy metaphors have nothing whatsoever to do with this present reality.
Saruman can't figure out why God is crushing his nation of no hope either and wants the sanctions lifted, but let's not forget he also facilitates the wicked in every possible way he can and upholds their hand in their Satanic machinations, even allowing them to stage in his territory to start their satanic gambit, therefore he can never change the reality that he is doomed and fights a Living God and will lose, PRAISE JESUS!
 

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Does anyone realize that the Ukraine has a large number of Jews. The current and former presidents are Jews. Have you looked at their National Emblem? Michael The Arch Angel is in it. Doesnt Surprise me that The Ukrainians are Chewing up Russian Tanks at an Astonishing rate, when considering this. Ukraine has the 2 most powerful military on the Planet on their knees. Putin was Evil even before this. Communism is Pure Evil. God Bless The Ukraine.
 

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Your bizarre fantasy metaphors have nothing whatsoever to do with this present reality.
Perhaps this will be more appropriate

[The Two Towers] [The Cure of Theoden]


Just wondering in this analogy who is wormtail? He keeps telling him how evil and horrible everyone is but himself and Sauramon.
 

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Perhaps this will be more appropriate

[The Two Towers] [The Cure of Theoden]


Just wondering in this analogy who is wormtail? He keeps telling him how evil and horrible everyone is but himself and Sauramon.
Let the twisted troll writhe in his torrid discomfiture. He might as well get used to it.
 
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Don't forget that fat goblin king Kadyrov, his name is also slated for doom in the songs of the holy angels in the courts of the Lord for doom, death to that fat pagan, praise Jesus how the orcs shall be destroyed wholly holy, PRAISE JESUS!




 
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Praise Jesus though not only for the power and might he shows in tearing UnhoLY Russia's entire principality and all their boyars apart, though indeed praise him for that too, but also how God displays his might strengthening the Heroes of Ukraine, PRAISE JESUS!

 
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Mutiny or Putiny? Either way the Lord God Jesus proves he dashes Wicked Russia to pieces throwing all their boyars against eachother in betrayals and intrigues, even bring out all of Mordor's boyars to destroy them against eachother in front of the face of the Son, PRAISE JESUS!

 
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Perhaps this will be more appropriate

[The Two Towers] [The Cure of Theoden]


Just wondering in this analogy who is wormtail? He keeps telling him how evil and horrible everyone is but himself and Sauramon.
Also while indeed the apt references make me laugh, lol, uh, Wormtail is Harry Potter. Which frankly that's apt as well, and Wormtail is Lukashenko.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ibQqbJFxOWk

Wormtongue in LOTR whose lies helps Saruman put his spell to keep Theoden from rising up and fighting against Mordor, why he is even the leftwing parties in Europe and America that all the time keep the rightwing in Europe demoralized and ensnared in a web of deceits and worries, making him forget that he is a strong lion, he is a strong king and warrior, if he joins this war Mordor loses the entire war in a matter of like 3 battles at the brightness of the glory of his coming at the light of the dawn. Womrtongue has let all the foul people ruin the kingdom and undermines the righteous Rider of Rohan in his plot in lusting for Eowyn and seeking to supplant Eomer and undermine them in their fight against the orcs. Ultimately however he gets first imprisoned with his master Saurman, and later in the books, righteously killed by the hobbits after he betrays his master and slits his throat, thus ending all the enemies from the War of the Ring

 

Fundaamental

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Like I said the Good Welsh dragons will sort it out soon 😊


Psalms 18
In my distress I called to the LORD; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears.
7 The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry.
8 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.