10 Warning Signs of Cult Recruitment

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Beckie

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Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
 

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where i ended up in Indiana before eventually venturing out West, we had one of the biggest cults ever formed.

the ironic thing was my Grandfather, was paid to teach Hebrew, to come hold Revival, to explain the Bible. Everyone revered my Grandfather. People even would come from out of State to have my Grandfather pray for them or to see him Preach/Teach. The majority core of of Protestant Denominations would have my Grandfather come teach the Hebrew from Methodist, Baptist, Wesleyan, Pentecostal, Independent, etc, so people knew and believed my Grandfather was a real Man of God.

well, my Grandfather had 8 Children and the oldest son, my Uncle David, was like ice and fire combination and he and my grandfather just didn't get along. My Grandfather even told him, in front of all, Family Reunion, he isn't going to Hell for my Uncle to allow him to push these ideas he wanted to upon the family.

anyway, big split.

years later, here the Uncle and his family show up for a Reunion.
they were seriously changed.
then they started talking about their Faith.
GLORY BARN, the BARN!

you can look them up.

just to point something out.
one of the Uncle's Twin Daughter's, now married with her own children, had one that was extremely ill [eventually died] at the Reunion. many were like get that baby to a hospital.
but, the mom, my cousin, was following the direction of Faith according to her Demonic Glory Barn Theology.
anyways, everyone was like let Grandpa pray for that baby!!
she said, he ain't a man of God and would only cause the demons inside him to enter her baby.
the chick was complete nuts!


anyway, research these MORONS:
UPI ARCHIVES

MAY 2, 1983
At least 52 people have died for lack of...
By DENNIS O'SHEA
WARSAW, Ind. -- At least 52 people have died for lack of medical care because they or their parents belonged to a fundamentalist church that insists only faith in God will heal them, but a coroner said Monday the church is beyond the reach of state law.
The 52 victims were linked to the Faith Assembly, a 10-year-old church based in Wilmot, Ind., and headed by the Rev. Hobart Freeman. It has about 2,000 members.


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May 2, 1983 — Eastlund said many of the estimated 2,000 members of the church, who worship in a rural building also known as the 'Glory Barn,' are highly ...
It hurts seeing family get all messed up. Most everything wiht the Lord is simple. No where do we read Luke stopped being a doctor ..
 

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Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
That's the way keep doing that.
 

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It's 100 times easier to fool somebody than to convince someone they have been fooled.
 

Blain

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It's 100 times easier to fool somebody than to convince someone they have been fooled.
if you were refering to my response to Becky The reason I responded like was because a seed was planted.


It is far better to quote a single scripture like that than to give a detailed response every verse that is posted that is not used to be a debate is a seed planted.

To build encourage strengthen this si what we should be using it for becky did this simply by posting that verse.
 

JohnDB

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if you were refering to my response to Becky The reason I responded like was because a seed was planted.


It is far better to quote a single scripture like that than to give a detailed response every verse that is posted that is not used to be a debate is a seed planted.

To build encourage strengthen this si what we should be using it for becky did this simply by posting that verse.
Not everything is about you....trust me when I say this....I wasn't even thinking about you when I said that....in fact I was thinking about what I said was true.

More along the lines to deliberately ignore the posts you made....because you truly know nothing about me or others on this forum whom I do actually know IRL and have a history with....you don't, but pretend to believe that you do....which is fairly nutty behavior IMHO.
 

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Not everything is about you....trust me when I say this....I wasn't even thinking about you when I said that....in fact I was thinking about what I said was true.

More along the lines to deliberately ignore the posts you made....because you truly know nothing about me or others on this forum whom I do actually know IRL and have a history with....you don't, but pretend to believe that you do....which is fairly nutty behavior IMHO.
That is why I said IF you were refering to me. if a post is made after another with no direct point to who or what it was refering to that usually is seen as an indirect response and I am still in training I cannot always discern

And I don't know how many more times I have to say it isn't about me it is about the kingdom. And I also cannot stress enough how dead serious he is about us rededicating ourselves to him fully utterly and absolutely not later not soon he says NOW! Time is not our friend and I am sorry you don't fancy how I operaterate but quite frankly you can get over it or just not bother this is a final call and while I may not always be in the right and while I may not always have everything right I value standing over ebing right

Make no mistake I am not going to be pushed around this isn't about you or me any of us individually and if you are just going gripe about it then kindly step aside because there is work to be done
 

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if it is all about the Kingdom why are there 15 references to your self in the above post?
 

Blain

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if it is all about the Kingdom why are there 15 references to your self in the above post?
Do you know how many times Jesus referenced himself? he spoke both of himself and the kingdom when I speak of myself I am testying. Just because I am willing to tread where you won't he uses me all my struggles everything about me as a testimony. Tell me this if if we were before God right now and the parables of the talents and the planting of the kingdom are our basis how would you take it if he got on to you because this sickly weak person was willing to act on faith for the cause not backing down and then says to you what is your excuse?


Your focused on me not what is being said you read the words your not listening what are you laying on the line for him? do you walk into the fray? I lose my image and how people see me as well as my health believe it or not just being on here drains me yet I am going to four other forums doing the same thing and honestly they all are doing much better they are being strenghtend and encouraged some have already redidcated themselves this is the results of not backing down continuing forwards I know my resolve.
 

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And I don't know how many more times I have to say it isn't about me it is about the kingdom. And I also cannot stress enough how dead serious he is about us rededicating ourselves to him fully utterly and absolutely not later not soon he says NOW!
And you know all this through direct revelation I'm sure. He told you Himself. You can proclaim this till the cows come home but I don't believe you're a prophet. Honestly I don't believe He speaks to you directly. I think you're just making it up in your own head. So go on, say what you've got to say; to me you're just another prophet wanna-be looking for a following.
 

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Do you know how many times Jesus referenced himself? he spoke both of himself and the kingdom when I speak of myself I am testying.
Guess what you are not Jesus.. Your post proves the point of your self importance.
 

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And you know all this through direct revelation I'm sure. He told you Himself. You can proclaim this till the cows come home but I don't believe you're a prophet. Honestly I don't believe He speaks to you directly. I think you're just making it up in your own head. So go on, say what you've got to say; to me you're just another prophet wanna-be looking for a following.
If you are not able to hear him like that why is this? Anyone can give a prophecy anyone can call themselves a prophet anyone can say they are Christian but if your not going to act on it if it doesn't activate you to move then your just all talk

I give prophecy yes, I speak of many things you don't agree with but I don't only speak I act that is the difference.
 

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If you are not able to hear him like that why is this? Anyone can give a prophecy anyone can call themselves a prophet anyone can say they are Christian but if your not going to act on it if it doesn't activate you to move then your just all talk

I give prophecy yes, I speak of many things you don't agree with but I don't only speak I act that is the difference.
I'm not talking about why I'm "not able to hear him like that." I'm talking about you being full of it.
 

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I have confidence in him there is a difference
There's that self importance again....o_O

I've, and others have said nothing to indicate that we have lacked, are lacking, or will lack confidence in Jesus. In fact just the opposite...that because of the things you have said and the way you have treated us we have serious doubts about you actually having a personal relationship with Jesus. That you think you do but somehow have missed creating a relationship with Jesus who is alive but have instead are following a Jesus of your own creation based loosely on the one we know.

In case you REALLY wanted to know.

First, second and foremost rule when dealing with Jesus is:

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

And the most basic respect for God has not been evident to us in a single post you have made yet. Instead it seems more like you are selling voodoo services for obtaining power.

And I would caution you most seriously and strenuously that you stop before you hurt yourself by playing with what you flat out don't seem to understand at all. It won't be pleasant for you by a long shot. Misusing The Name, speaking for God when truly not, claiming to be "special" to God when not, and trying to touch/control/use what/whom belongs to God without His authorization.
All of these things individually, once upon a time, were deadly to those who did one...not lined up on top of each other this way.

Remember Simon Magnus? If not look him up....he tried the same stuff. It didn't work out for him.
 
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i have no idea about who is who or anyone on these Forums. but i do know from just paying attention since being here who is able to venture outside and be a part of the world and who cannot, is stuck in bed, or stuck and generally isolated. from my own experience, isolation brings about 2 options.
1. self pity whoa is me
2. you spend serious amounts of time with God.

more time, than the average person who is able to have a life outside a literal prison of walls.

i will never deny the reality that between every single one of us on these Forums, some are just way way way way way CLOSER to God than everyone else.

and you can normally tell who are the MORONS that are not as close to God.

you will always find them destroying those who are.



NOW:
i am not saying anyone in this thread is that Close to God.
but i am saying, I can tell WHO IS NOT!
 

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Cult and Christianity are like peas and carrots. They aren't necessarily tied to a specific church either.

Look at Christian Nationalism. It is a cult but doesn't have any one specific church tied to it. The current leader (Donald Trump) is very much opposed to many of the ideals of Christianity...but Christian Nationalists keep promoting him anyway.
The LGBTQ/woke crowd is another cult...very "antiChristian" as well. But the identity warping, cancel culture, and etc is very much identified with cult behaviors.

I get that you feel uncomfortable with the way I'm describing things...because you have a very understandable affinity with Christianity and Jesus. So do I. You don't want to hear negative things about Christians. And in truth I'm not slamming Christians...only those who have stolen and misused the label but hide in and amongst the Christians to the point of being considered leaders in the community of believers. Like it or not but many of the current cult behaviors inside Christianity today stem from past leadership like Hillsong, Jerry Falwell, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Jim Baker, and many other televangelist. These people were not good for the cause at all. Amassing great wealth for themselves and a culture inside their organizations.

I hate the current "bait and switch" type of thing going on in Christian circles. They all promote hate as a primary purpose....they dont say that....but in truth they are.
I do not disagree with what you have written here, but once again you are being critical of "churchianity" which is fine.

I have often described "Calvinism" as "cult like" "cultish" and as I interact with them here and on other social media platforms they live up to this each time, imo, and yet I would not say they are in a "cult" in the modern day use of the term.

Why you make ask, because as I stated before you lessen the impact of what the word "cult" is meant to convey.

But I think you want to be provactive with the way you are using the word which I guess has its purpose for promoting discussion.