question: Can an unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?

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Lamar

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Seorsum said:
I posted many earlier.
There was something said to those that wanted to throw works into the plan of salvation.
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This is the text:
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.

"Abraham was considered righteous for what he did", if you don't believe this ask Isaac.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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CS1 said:
FYI, tongues don't save you, guy. Your speech hurts those who hold to the teaching that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today. I will say there has been no one more than I who has defended the gifts for today than I have and disagreed with those who believe such.

Never told them to "shove it"; I provided the word of God. When they did and said what you said, they were banned. Your pride has blinded you.
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it's a false doctrine!

Jesus said to the 7 Churches what He was doing to their False Doctrines.

you want to have a happy discussion with Satan, enjoy!

i don't give him time, EVER, not even on a website chat.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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CS1 said:
wrong ! :)
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arguing against me, who is contronting a false doctrine, means to be against me is for the false doctrine.

even if i am wrong how i do it.

but i don't care about YOUR version of right and wrong.

if the Holy Spirit had not wanted me to hit send, i would have felt guilt.

but i am not even speaking to LAMAR, but the SPIRIT, inside Lamar!
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
in all honesty, and wished God would speak on my behalf.

i never actually closely read what he said.

i just know the Doctrine is False and spirit behind it is worse.

but when cs1 addressed me.

i did go back and see. but when i quoted those before, i never addressed them because i wasn't thinking about being insulted.

i actually would not have known had my post been brought up.
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
arguing against me, who is contronting a false doctrine, means to be against me is for the false doctrine.

even if i am wrong how i do it.

but i don't care about YOUR version of right and wrong.

if the Holy Spirit had not wanted me to hit send, i would have felt guilt.

but i am not even speaking to LAMAR, but the SPIRIT, inside Lamar!
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lol ok if you say so. Please show in the word of God where Jesus or the Apostles told a person to "shove it"?



FYI you are not prepared or equipped to correct those who are known to be Cessationist .

Also, many of them are saved just wrong on this topic. One should be mature when speaking of the Hoy Spirit and the gifts. not profane.
 
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CS1 said:
lol ok if you say so. Please show in the word of God where Jesus or the Apostles told a person to "shove it"?



FYI you are not prepared or equipped to correct those who are known to be Cessationist .

Also, many of them are saved just wrong on this topic. One should be mature when speaking of the Hoy Spirit and the gifts. not profane.
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i just showed you where Jesus called them Viper. a Viper, is a snake that crawls into the womb of something DEAD and lays its eggs to be hatched.

Do you get how FOUL this is what Jesus said?

but i can say, ok, i am wrong about shove it.

but i am telling him to shove his False Doctrine.

only to cs1, is telling a false teacher to shove his false doctrine equals the ULTIMATE SIN!

Get real, i did not commit Blasphemy!

i told Satan to shove his Doctrine!
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
here, i am being called an IDIOT!

"It's about the Holy Spirit Baptism." You are aware that "Holy Spirit Baptism" is metaphysical in nature? Please tell me that you are aware of this.
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I did not see the word "IDIOT" in the post? Did you assume that>?
 
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I did not see the word "IDIOT" in the post? Did you assume that>?
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i said, i did not even pay attention to these until you brought up mine. no, but i can read what he means.
if you can't, they need to revoke your license!
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
i just showed you where Jesus called them Viper. a Viper, is a snake that crawls into the womb of something DEAD and lays its eggs to be hatched.

Do you get how FOUL this is what Jesus said?

but i can say, ok, i am wrong about shove it.

but i am telling him to shove his False Doctrine.

only to cs1, is telling a false teacher to shove his false doctrine equals the ULTIMATE SIN!

Get real, i did not commit Blasphemy!
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Jesus was speaking to Pharisees, who were Hypocrites. Not to Christians who are believing the gifts of the Holy Spirit are done away with. FYI, Jesus was saying that.


I strongly disagreed with Cessationism and used the word of God to do so. YET we are to leave them alone. Every time I saw those of Cessationism say what you have said, I was one of the first ones to come out and call them on it and defend the pentacostel experience and Charismatics. Yet I have seen mocking and scoffing and have been able to call them on it call them on mocking, scoffing and what I believe is unbiblical.
 
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CS1 said:
Jesus was speaking to Pharisees, who were Hypocrites. Not to Christians who are believing the gifts of the Holy Spirit are done away with. FYI, Jesus was saying that.


I strongly disagreed with Cessationism and used the word of God to do so. YET we are to leave them alone. Every time I saw those of Cessationism say what you have said, I was one of the first ones to come out and call them on it and defend the pentacostel experience and Charismatics. Yet I have seen mocking and scoffing and have been able to call them on it call them on mocking, scoffing and what I believe is unbiblical.
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it's not just cessation but he's saying being Baptized by the Holy Spirit is a mental thing, metaphysical, not real and tangible, just a thought.

That is FALSE!

and you have been protecting this thing for the past 10 posts.

what is WRONG with YOU?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
i said, i did not even pay attention to these until you brought up mine. no, but i can read what he means.
if you can't, they need to revoke your license!
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See, there you go insulting people and trying to justify yourself. If you ever want to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit for today. I will be happy to do so with you and explain very much what is unbiblical about Cessationism.

I won't tell you to shove it or call you an idiot. I won't tell you to revoke your licenses; you can agree or disagree. I will even give you this concession.

I might even be wrong in my understanding about the gifts of the Holy Spirit being for today; however, that must be shown to me from the word of God.
 
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CS1 said:
See, there you go insulting people and trying to justify yourself. If you ever want to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit for today. I will be happy to do so with you and explain very much what is unbiblical about Cessationism.

I won't tell you to shove it or call you an idiot. I won't tell you to revoke your licenses; you can agree or disagree. I will even give you this concession.

I might even be wrong in my understanding about the gifts of the Holy Spirit being for today; however, that must be shown to me from the word of God.
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i did not call him an idiot.
but if someone posts: if you can't understand this then you are absurd.

what does that mean to you?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
it's not just cessation but he's saying being Baptized by the Holy Spirit is a mental thing, metaphysical, not real and tangible, just a thought.

That is FALSE!

and you have been protecting this thing for the past 10 posts.

what is WRONG with YOU?
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
it's not just cessation but he's saying being Baptized by the Holy Spirit is a mental thing, metaphysical, not real and tangible, just a thought.

That is FALSE!

and you have been protecting this thing for the past 10 posts.

what is WRONG with YOU?
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I agree that is false but I have not agreed with anyone who holds to Cessationism. THe issue I had was your response and it was wrong but you continue to belive you are justified in saying what you did. You don't even see how your lack of self-contol helps his opinon.
 
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i DO NOT CARE what anyone thinks, if any of YOU, like this one did, make this Post:

but he's saying being Baptized by the Holy Spirit is a mental thing, metaphysical, not real and tangible, just a thought.

I will tell you to shove Your False Doctrine ALL DAY LONG!
 
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CS1 said:
I agree that is false but I have not agreed with anyone who holds to Cessationism. THe issue I had was your response and it was wrong but you continue to belive you are justified in saying what you did. You don't even see how your lack of self-contol helps his opinon.
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i understand!
but my responses you read were to this False belief.
 
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