Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

You say that the democrats are using fascistic tactics?What Is your VETTED source for this allegation or Is this ALLEGATION just YOUR opinion that (Joe Biden Jack Smith and the DOJ) are using political tactics and BTW are you saying that Donald Trumps statements are true?

Donald Trump has been fact-checked many times and Is not credible so then using his statement as fact IMO would not be wise.

Incidentally I wish sassy Sarah would make a comeback, she'd be a great President-
Below: Sarah visits USS Stennis, 2009

SARAH- "Captain, can I press that big red button to launch an airstrike on a herd of moose that are swimming across the Bering Strait from Russia to Alaska?"
CAPTAIN- "On what grounds ma'am?"
SARAH- "They're commie mooses"

When it all comes out in the wash I don't know what we'll find. I don't think it was wrong to bring out the vax, what was wrong was forcing people to get the vax to the point they would lose their job if they didn't. Trump was advocating for things other than the vax and they made a fool of him on that too. I doubt he'd ever close the country down again, but every time he would talk about opening back up, the left would throw a fit. Election year, people were scared to death, I think he was trying to be cautiously optimistic, left wasn't havin' any of it. If the vax kills people, that's on the people that made it. Trump didn't make the stuff in the WH basement.



Yes, yes hindsight is 20/20 you would have gone in drained the swamp, hired all the right people, single handedly cured COVID making no mis-steps along the way. I guess we should have voted you president. smh He didn't do the opposite, he did a lot more than most know, and that with the MSM and Dems impeaching him every time he turned around. Amazing he got anything done at all. Good read here on everything he had to deal with besides running the country.

https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=14461



Trump knows a "got ya" question when he sees it. I wouldn't have answered them either. Give them another reason to rip he and his family apart. Don't twist what I said. You don't know if he asked his wife forgiveness, in fact I believe he said he did. Either way, you're not going to hold anyone else accountable, why are you nailing him?


Well you and I travel in different circles. As I have said, my family came down to a major Christian convention in the south when people were coming up to election after what Clinton did. And the sentiment was what he does in private is his business and has nothing to do with running the country. I'm sure not claiming every Christian voted that way. And the Dems definitely went with that agenda. From JFK to now, people on both sides will overlook a lot if their pocketbooks are full. Like I say, you've nothing to say about Biden either and his cheating.


Trump said it was because he wouldn't stop hounding his female workers and he threw him off his property. So he did know he was an alligator. Rich people have huge circles, all kinds of people trying to get near them and curry favor. Some are lowlifes. They aren't like you and me. He was all over the world. Knowing someone doesn't mean you agree with them.



It's funny to me that you all think Biden doesn't have a past as bad and worse than Trump. smh

Drill baby drill!!!

You tell me that I’m judging then you make a judgement about Mike Pence.🤔🫤😬😅
I can make a right judgement according to the flesh or my carnal 5 senses what I can see taste hear smell or feel and trump Is judge accordingly that way.

Embarrassing

I think the Koch partners were watching to see if he would make it and because he wasn't they met the 40,000 doner's part for him so he made the eighth spot to be on stage. https://time.com/6253038/koch-brothers-trump-gop-nomination/

Tells me more about the Koch brothers.

Yep their fascinating to read about. Like they say just follow the money... in the 2016 election cycle they put up 889 million that they know of... https://www.npr.org/sections/itsall...ch-brothers-put-price-tag-on-2016-889-million

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When it all comes out in the wash I don't know what we'll find. I don't think it was wrong to bring out the vax, what was wrong was forcing people to get the vax to the point they would lose their job if they didn't. Trump was advocating for things other than the vax and they made a fool of him on that too. I doubt he'd ever close the country down again, but every time he would talk about opening back up, the left would throw a fit. Election year, people were scared to death, I think he was trying to be cautiously optimistic, left wasn't havin' any of it. If the vax kills people, that's on the people that made it. Trump didn't make the stuff in the WH basement.

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Why should a lion concern himself with what the sheep think about him? Trump wasn't elected by the people who made threats to him (the left). Be it Joe Biden or Donald Trump, when someone does something counter to what they campaigned on and instead of doing what they promised, give in to fear and fold... I will call a spade a spade. You choose to make excuses for Trump not unlike Democrats making excuses for Biden.

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Yes, yes hindsight is 20/20 you would have gone in drained the swamp, hired all the right people, single handedly cured COVID making no mis-steps along the way. I guess we should have voted you president. smh He didn't do the opposite, he did a lot more than most know, and that with the MSM and Dems impeaching him every time he turned around. Amazing he got anything done at all. Good read here on everything he had to deal with besides running the country.

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Wait, did I campaign to do all those things? I didn't... Nor did I say Trump should have done all those things... I merely pointed out Trump's base knew Dr. Fauci should have been fired, yet Trump folded under pressure to the left who didn't even vote for him and let Dr. Fauci run the show. I also pointed out that the majority of Trump's base are against the "experimental vaccine". These facts appear to trigger you into going full damage control and hyper defensive mode on his behalf.

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Trump knows a "got ya" question when he sees it. I wouldn't have answered them either. Give them another reason to rip he and his family apart. Don't twist what I said. You don't know if he asked his wife forgiveness, in fact I believe he said he did. Either way, you're not going to hold anyone else accountable, why are you nailing him?

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Wait, did you miss the part where Trump DID answer the question? He explicitly stated he has never asked for forgiveness. He can apparently identify a "gotcha question" but not an obvious alligator. Got it.

Furthermore, the context isn't even about if he asks his wives for forgiveness for cheating on them. The question was asked in front of a crowd if he ever asked God for forgiveness. Let's try to keep the context accurate.

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Well you and I travel in different circles. As I have said, my family came down to a major Christian convention in the south when people were coming up to election after what Clinton did. And the sentiment was what he does in private is his business and has nothing to do with running the country. I'm sure not claiming every Christian voted that way. And the Dems definitely went with that agenda. From JFK to now, people on both sides will overlook a lot if their pocketbooks are full. Like I say, you've nothing to say about Biden either and his cheating.

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Agreed, we do probably hang around different circles. My Republican friends and family vilified him for what he did with Monica and then turning around and lying to the American people about it. I grew up in the south too, but my circle NEVER would make the case for Clinton that what he does behind closed doors is his business. Here is why I blatantly disagree with that though. If Clinton chose not to answer the question, then I can buy the "it's none of your business" response. But did Clinton say that or did he blatantly lie to the American people that he "did not have sexual relations with that woman"? How can you or anyone in your circle justify that?

Now, as it pertains to my personal beliefs... I believe God has and will continue to call flawed men to bring about His works. The difference is, I believe God uses repentant servants to bring about His work. There is a clear distinction between someone who has washed themself in the blood of Jesus Christ and repented for their transgressions and someone who has transgressed, believes in God, but refuses to utilize the atonement of Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness. If we recall, even demons believe in God.

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Trump said it was because he wouldn't stop hounding his female workers and he threw him off his property. So he did know he was an alligator. Rich people have huge circles, all kinds of people trying to get near them and curry favor. Some are lowlifes. They aren't like you and me. He was all over the world. Knowing someone doesn't mean you agree with them.

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Trump is quoted by the New York Times (Slimes) in 2002: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” The falling out wasn't due to young women or how he treated his female workers... it was a piece of real estate. This is well documented.

But you're giving Trump credit for identifying an alligator 15+ years after being friends and partying with him? Does he get credit for discovering a bunch of people he appointed were alligators too? Does he get credit for finally realizing Dr. Fauci is an alligator? Sorry, no credit... He is drawn to the alligators. He has a plethora of examples of people he's associated himself with only to later be discovered as an alligator. That was a nice try trying to give him credit though.

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It's funny to me that you all think Biden doesn't have a past as bad and worse than Trump. smh

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I don't know if you are lumping me in the "you all" category, I've continued to validate the criticism of Biden and his past and present issues. I just want to know why aren't more people considering DeSantis when he doesn't have any of the baggage Biden or Trump have. We have the opportunity to elect the right candidate in the Republican party, but we want to blow it with an extremely flawed one.

Ok what did he campaign on that in your mind that he went counter to?





And I said, Trump advocated other treatments that could have helped people, not just the vax. He didn't force anyone to take it. He took it and let others make up their own minds. It was BIDEN who forced the vax. No trigger, not that invested. I didn't get the vax, some in my family chose to. So far everyone is healthy and I leave that in God's hands. If someone got sick from the vax I would be dumb enough to blame Trump for it.



How about you let God play His part and when you're perfect we'll see if He is ready to give the job over to you. Everybody on the sidelines know how the game should be played, but they aren't on the field. Stop giving yourself heirs like you'd have chosen better. We still don't know the truth about COVID. Easy to be an armchair advisor.




Lol where did I say I justified that?? Forced apologies are hilarious to me. I got caught so now my people are going to write on a card what I should say to the American people. Apologize or don't but don't consider those apologies sincere, they aren't and the responses are written for them. And while we're on it, why did the Dems turn out Cuomo ??!! He did the EXACT same thing Biden was accused of!! I don't know why he doesn't run for president, he's more fit than the old man in the WH.


I don't know where Trump stands with God, that's between them. He had a Christian VP and was surrounded by Christians that prayed over him. I hope that will get through to him if he isn't saved. But God uses all kinds of people who haven't repented. He used Churchill, and like Trump, I don't know where he stood with God. But there is no denying God used him, and many others.


He said younger, not jail bait. His wife is younger than him, so was Maples.

President Donald Trump banned wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein from his exclusive Mar-a-Lago club for hitting on the teenage daughter of another member, according to a new book entitled “The Grifter’s Club.”

“Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Maralago Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club,” according to the papers, filed in the Sunshine State as part of an ongoing legal battle between Epstein and Bradley Edwards, who represented many of Epstein’s underage accusers in civil suits against him. NYP



I really hope that you are as concerned and triggered about the people the current president has associated himself with. Trump isn't in office. Again, thanks for the armchair quarterbacking. When we need you in the WH you'll be the first we contact. smh Everyone's an expert on how to do someone else's job.

I really don't know with De Santis, but I felt it wasn't his time to run. Too much baggage. I think a lot more people are upset over the election that you or I think. De Santis has tried 3 restarts and fired his manager I believe. I thought he was doing great in FL, kind have thought the two would be neck in neck. Also I think people believe what the Dems are doing to Trump is wrong. Every time they indite him his numbers go up.

To the casual observer what you say could be correct. But, I am not the casual observer and it is obvious I am not alone.

I reflected on the fact you are judging people you do not know...that would be the 'so many people' you mention'. You do not know anyone here in real time as far as I know and certainly not the millions who do support Trump. So, you are JUDGING people you do not know, have never met and have no inkling of why they might lean the way that they do. A person can say they are behind Trump but that does not automatically mean they love him. They may dislike someone else more or prefer the Trump accomplishments more than the evil that the current admin has bestowed upon this country.

Now Pence on the the other hand, has made available to the discerning individual the state of his heart by accusing others as he has done and basically promoting himself as sinless and available to all who are sinless as he is. (I am not mocking here. We are sinless in Christ, that is in the eyes of God only because of Jesus dying in our place) However, he refers to his record, his desire to testify against Trump and his appeasement of any and all which makes him a decided middle of the roader.

As previously stated, I do not believe you swim in deep waters and are actually just skimming the playbook of Pence to the detriment of your own ability to discern this person's true motives.

So go ahead and do this and I will rely on the Holy Spirit to prove to me what is the right way and I will ask for His help to allow me to do that.

What you describe as your right judgement, is actually depending on your flesh and what your eyes see.

Those of us who set our faces against this deception, know that God looks on the heart and I do believe the heart of Mr Pence is not a heart I would trust.

Continue as you will, but your observation is only true if you wish to be right and others wrong. We are not wrong and when people
fall under the appeal of someone who meets all the specs of what or who they think might accomplish their own desires, all words of warning often just go by the wayside. And that actually works in any direction.

This is vetted.....

This would be a big deal if Biden were a republican but for a Democrat this is no big deal. Now if you can get us evidence that Trump received $2,000 that would be front page news!

A more interesting and to the point question would be 'What is YOUR vetted source for info on Trump?' besides all the leftist rhetoric that you seem to rely on.

Vetted is an interesting word and does not prove very much these days. It is often simply a buzzword for believe this lie instead of the other lie (or even truth) Remember Biden's little escapade into the wide world of vetting?

However, you are still able to vote for anyone at all and so is everyone else. We still have 2 parties last I checked...more or less anyway

I would have a whole new reason to say 'God have mercy'. He does have mercy...but when people insist on having their way despite evidence to the contrary, then it becomes we need a whole lotta more of that mercy and open the blind eyes.

She is so embroiled in herself, there is no room for anyone else. Just my 'opinion' of course (not)

They would have impeached Trump if he was caught dribbling at the Capitol Hill bathroom urinal.

Wishing you the best of course, I have always had a favorable thought toward her, and believe the unfavorable views are from the corrupt press beginning exercise it's Bird of Censorship wings.

Didn't Bill Barr testify that he saw him do that? I think they didn't want to bring charges because Swalwell was in another stall with FangFang and Hunter was doing lines off the bathroom counter.

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Ok what did he campaign on that in your mind that he went counter to?

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In the context of giving into the threats from the left about covid, he championed being a tough non-career politician who will act independently from what his base calls "the deep state". As it pertains to covid, big pharma has made a killing because of the safeguards Trump removed to expedite the "experimental vaccine". Some would say this was a big plus by the way... but those people believe the vaccine actually works and want to credit Biden instead of Trump for some reason. His base thinks it's either a kill shot or unnecessarily killing young and old people.

There is no doubt that if Trump could redo everything all over again, he would not give in to the fear from the left. Unfortunately, we don't always get to have redos. I'm grateful that DeSantis has done what he has done without creating excuses.

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And I said, Trump advocated other treatments that could have helped people, not just the vax. He didn't force anyone to take it. He took it and let others make up their own minds. It was BIDEN who forced the vax. No trigger, not that invested. I didn't get the vax, some in my family chose to. So far everyone is healthy and I leave that in God's hands. If someone got sick from the vax I would be dumb enough to blame Trump for it.

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This is moving the goal post. I didn't bring up alternative ways to help or Trump encouraging people to take the vaccine but not mandate it. Don't get me wrong... I'm glad he didn't mandate it like Joe Biden. However, Joe Biden isn't the standard I would use to test if someone is a good candidate or not. Perhaps you're missing my point?

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How about you let God play His part and when you're perfect we'll see if He is ready to give the job over to you. Everybody on the sidelines know how the game should be played, but they aren't on the field. Stop giving yourself heirs like you'd have chosen better. We still don't know the truth about COVID. Easy to be an armchair advisor.

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God is playing His part. I never tried to stop God... I am merely restating what Trump answered when asked if he has ever asked God for forgiveness. I'm sorry if this upsets you; it isn't my intention. You tried to be a politician and change the topic towards his wife when that wasn't the context at all. I'm just trying to have a good faithed discourse with you about it.

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Lol where did I say I justified that?? Forced apologies are hilarious to me. I got caught so now my people are going to write on a card what I should say to the American people. Apologize or don't but don't consider those apologies sincere, they aren't and the responses are written for them. And while we're on it, why did the Dems turn out Cuomo ??!! He did the EXACT same thing Biden was accused of!! I don't know why he doesn't run for president, he's more fit than the old man in the WH.

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I mean, yeah I agree. I don't think Clinton was sincere either. My point remains though, it's one thing to NOT answer a question and it's another to deliberately lie when answering it. Could we agree on this point at least?

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I don't know where Trump stands with God, that's between them. He had a Christian VP and was surrounded by Christians that prayed over him. I hope that will get through to him if he isn't saved. But God uses all kinds of people who haven't repented. He used Churchill, and like Trump, I don't know where he stood with God. But there is no denying God used him, and many others.

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I agree. His walk with Christ is between him and God. I personally don't even care if he has ever committed adultery... But if you are going to tell the world of your whoredom (which he has publicly admitted in interviews of), I would prefer he be repentant if he claims to be a Christian. For many, it's a reasonable disqualifier.

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He said younger, not jail bait. His wife is younger than him, so was Maples.

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Yup, Trump never implicated himself to underaged girls... only to liking young women and dating his daughter if he wasn't her father. The point is that he was bros with Epstein for 15+ years and doesn't get credit for identifying an alligator. He was an alligator well before this and it was even talked about on the down-low from their circles. The theme is that he's obviously attracted to degenerates his entire life... yet campaigned on cleaning the swamp by appointing alligators and having alligator friends.

As for your reports and sources, they are all true. However, the initial falling out was because of a real estate feud. Then they publicized their feud to the media.

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I really hope that you are as concerned and triggered about the people the current president has associated himself with. Trump isn't in office. Again, thanks for the armchair quarterbacking. When we need you in the WH you'll be the first we contact. smh Everyone's an expert on how to do someone else's job.

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You bet I am. This is why I vote and encourage people to do so as well. The problem is that people want to vote for the flashy flawed candidate that makes them laugh as opposed to someone who has extremely similar ideals but isn't so polarizing, controversial, or have as much baggage (DeSantis).

This might sound like a funny comparison... I would compare Biden to a prostitute, Trump to a promiscuous woman, and DeSantis to a Proverbs 31 woman. If we were trying to select the right partner, a prostitute or a promiscuous woman wouldn't or shouldn't take the top of the list for single Christian men. It might be enticing... A Proverbs 31 woman would clearly be a better fit for any Christian man though.

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I really don't know with De Santis, but I felt it wasn't his time to run. Too much baggage. I think a lot more people are upset over the election that you or I think. De Santis has tried 3 restarts and fired his manager I believe. I thought he was doing great in FL, kind have thought the two would be neck in neck. Also I think people believe what the Dems are doing to Trump is wrong. Every time they indite him his numbers go up.

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Yes, the more the left attacks Trump, the more Trump gains support. There is a psychological reasoning for this though. People can vote (especially in a poll) emotionally. People could prefer DeSantis and also like Trump. When they see someone who they do like, maybe not as much as DeSantis, get treated unfairly, humans have a tendency to cheer the underdog. In fact, Trumps 2016 victory is entirely all about him being the underdog and prevailing. I have never been a big Trump supporter, but even I cheered when he beat Clinton in 2016. I will cheer him on the indictments as well as I don't think they are justified. But I'm not going to vote emotionally... I want to vote pragmatically and for the best candidate.[/QUOTE]