Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Niki7

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So why would anyone vote for Trump again?

Just a few reasons:

Tax Relief for the Middle Class
Passed $3.2 trillion in historic tax relief and reformed the tax code.

  • Signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act – the largest tax reform package in history.
  • More than 6 million American workers received wage increases, bonuses, and increased benefits thanks to the tax cuts.
  • A typical family of four earning $75,000 received an income tax cut of more than $2,000 – slashing their tax bill in half.
  • Doubled the standard deduction – making the first $24,000 earned by a married couple completely tax-free.
  • Doubled the child tax credit.
  • Virtually eliminated the unfair Estate Tax, or Death Tax.
  • Cut the business tax rate from 35 percent – the highest in the developed world – all the way down to 21 percent.
  • Small businesses can now deduct 20 percent of their business income.
  • Businesses can now deduct 100 percent of the cost of their capital investments in the year the investment is made.
  • Since the passage of tax cuts, the share of total wealth held by the bottom half of households has increased, while the share held by the top 1 percent has decreased.
  • Over 400 companies have announced bonuses, wage increases, new hires, or new investments in the United States.
  • Over $1.5 trillion was repatriated into the United States from overseas.
  • Lower investment cost and higher capital returns led to faster growth in the middle class, real wages, and international competitiveness.
Jobs and investments are pouring into Opportunity Zones.

  • Created nearly 9,000 Opportunity Zones where capital gains on long-term investments are taxed at zero.
  • Opportunity Zone designations have increased property values within them by 1.1 percent, creating an estimated $11 billion in wealth for the nearly half of Opportunity Zone residents who own their own home.
  • Opportunity Zones have attracted $75 billion in funds and driven $52 billion of new investment in economically distressed communities, creating at least 500,000 new jobs.
  • Approximately 1 million Americans will be lifted from poverty as a result of these new investments.
  • Private equity investments into businesses in Opportunity Zones were nearly 30 percent higher than investments into businesses in similar areas that were not designated Opportunity Zones.
 

Niki7

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more reasons:

Ended the regulatory assault on American Businesses and Workers.

  • Instead of 2-for-1, we eliminated 8 old regulations for every 1 new regulation adopted.
  • Provided the average American household an extra $3,100 every year.
  • Reduced the direct cost of regulatory compliance by $50 billion, and will reduce costs by an additional $50 billion in FY 2020 alone.
  • Removed nearly 25,000 pages from the Federal Register – more than any other president. The previous administration added over 16,000 pages.
  • Established the Governors’ Initiative on Regulatory Innovation to reduce outdated regulations at the state, local, and tribal levels.
  • Signed an executive order to make it easier for businesses to offer retirement plans.
  • Signed two executive orders to increase transparency in Federal agencies and protect Americans and their small businesses from administrative abuse.
  • Modernized the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) for the first time in over 40 years.
  • Reduced approval times for major infrastructure projects from 10 or more years down to 2 years or less.
  • Helped community banks by signing legislation that rolled back costly provisions of Dodd-Frank.
  • Established the White House Council on Eliminating Regulatory Barriers to Affordable Housing to bring down housing costs.
  • Removed regulations that threatened the development of a strong and stable internet.
  • Eased and simplified restrictions on rocket launches, helping to spur commercial investment in space projects.
  • Published a whole-of-government strategy focused on ensuring American leadership in automated vehicle technology.
  • Streamlined energy efficiency regulations for American families and businesses, including preserving affordable lightbulbs, enhancing the utility of showerheads, and enabling greater time savings with dishwashers.
  • Removed unnecessary regulations that restrict the seafood industry and impede job creation.
  • Modernized the Department of Agriculture’s biotechnology regulations to put America in the lead to develop new technologies.
  • Took action to suspend regulations that would have slowed our response to COVID-19, including lifting restrictions on manufacturers to more quickly produce ventilators.
 

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While I would initially say no, I do have to ask are all sinners given the same punishment regardless of the severity of their sin?

So now you are contradicting yourself, since initially you asserted that the evil of Stalin and Trump are the same. :unsure:

Let's stay focused on the temporal and no more deflecting to the spiritual.

Just admit you do not like Trump, it is very strong personal feeling, you are looking for ways to justify your strong dislike by dragging scripture in to it which does not even apply.
 

Niki7

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And more:

  • Rescinded the previous administration’s Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH) rule, which would have abolished zoning for single-family housing to build low-income, federally subsidized apartments.
  • Issued a final rule on the Fair Housing Act’s disparate impact standard.
  • Eliminated the Waters of the United States Rule and replaced it with the Navigable Waters Protection Rule, providing relief and certainty for farmers and property owners.
  • Repealed the previous administration’s costly fuel economy regulations by finalizing the Safer Affordable Fuel Efficient (SAFE) Vehicles rule, which will make cars more affordable, and lower the price of new vehicles by an estimated $2,200.
Americans now have more money in their pockets.

  • Deregulation had an especially beneficial impact on low-income Americans who pay a much higher share of their incomes for overregulation.
  • Cut red tape in the healthcare industry, providing Americans with more affordable healthcare and saving Americans nearly 10 percent on prescription drugs.
  • Deregulatory efforts yielded savings to the medical community an estimated $6.6 billion – with a reduction of 42 million hours of regulatory compliance work through 2021.
  • Removed government barriers to personal freedom and consumer choice in healthcare.
  • Once fully in effect, 20 major deregulatory actions undertaken by the Trump Administration are expected to save American consumers and businesses over $220 billion per year.
  • Signed 16 pieces of deregulatory legislation that will result in a $40 billion increase in annual real incomes.
 

Niki7

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oh wow! still more!!!

  • Immediately withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
  • Ended the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and replaced it with the brand new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
  • The USMCA contains powerful new protections for American manufacturers, auto-makers, farmers, dairy producers, and workers.
  • The USMCA is expected to generate over $68 billion in economic activity and potentially create over 550,000 new jobs over ten years.
  • Signed an executive order making it government policy to Buy American and Hire American, and took action to stop the outsourcing of jobs overseas.
  • Negotiated with Japan to slash tariffs and open its market to $7 billion in American agricultural products and ended its ban on potatoes and lamb.
  • Over 90 percent of American agricultural exports to Japan now receive preferential treatment, and most are duty-free.
  • Negotiated another deal with Japan to boost $40 billion worth of digital trade.
  • Renegotiated the United States-Korea Free Trade Agreement, doubling the cap on imports of American vehicles and extending the American light truck tariff.
  • Reached a written, fully-enforceable Phase One trade agreement with China on confronting pirated and counterfeit goods, and the protection of American ideas, trade secrets, patents, and trademarks.
  • China agreed to purchase an additional $200 billion worth of United States exports and opened market access for over 4,000 American facilities to exports while all tariffs remained in effect.
  • Achieved a mutual agreement with the European Union (EU) that addresses unfair trade practices and increases duty-free exports by 180 percent to $420 million.
  • Secured a pledge from the EU to eliminate tariffs on American lobster – the first United States-European Union negotiated tariff reduction in over 20 years.
  • Scored a historic victory by overhauling the Universal Postal Union, whose outdated policies were undermining American workers and interests.
  • Engaged extensively with trade partners like the EU and Japan to advance reforms to the World Trade Organization (WTO).
  • Issued a first-ever comprehensive report on the WTO Appellate Body’s failures to comply with WTO rules and interpret WTO agreements as written.
  • Blocked nominees to the WTO’s Appellate Body until WTO Members recognize and address longstanding issues with Appellate Body activism.
  • Submitted 5 papers to the WTO Committee on Agriculture to improve Members’ understanding of how trade policies are implemented, highlight areas for improved transparency, and encourage members to maintain up-to-date notifications on market access and domestic support.
 

ZNP

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Jesus was in the New Testament. You're pulling from the old.
Jesus was the greater David, I was pulling a quote from David, and Jesus is Lord, I pulled a quote from the Lord God.

But here is Jesus:


Matthew 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

According to the context a clear reference to poop is made as not defiling a man.
 

Cameron143

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There is nothing wrong with wealth. The Bible is full of rich people. The problem comes in when we are not rich towards God or others.
 

Niki7

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You can also look up the Biden record but be prepared for lies and more lies.

Like withdrawing from Afghanistan......oh yeah he did that alright and Afghanistan is a mess again and parents are grieving their sons and daughters who died because Biden made the worst withdrawal from a country in the history of the world.

And of course the Inflation Reduction Act which has increased inflation to the point people no longer buy in grocery stores what they used to by without giving it a second thought?

Oh you wanna buy a house? Shoulda done that 4 years ago when interest was doable. Now ya gonna pay over 8% and it's going up again because of the out of control Fed...which is not even Fed...it's PRIVATE!!!! Wake up!!!!

Taken over 100 actions to lower household energy costs by $100 per year. Yes of course. Just dump your gas stoves and whatever else is not green. Use your coal fired electric stoves instead. Oh. What did you think they were making electricity with?

Two strongest years of job growth in history. After thousands of business were lost due to Covid restrictions. Who do they think they are fooling?

The only people voting for the Dems are those who want the free stuff and their government loans forgiven while honest and hard working people pay for all of that and pay for the illegals who should not be in this country

AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON

But really, it is Trump who is the devil. How can people be so deceived? You are dancing to the piper and the piper is the devil working through the democrats.
 

Niki7

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and of course this gem:

Biden Signed the most significant gun violence prevention legislation in nearly 30 years

Really? Better tell that to the Mexican cartels sneaking over the border with the 50 caliber rifles and assault weapons in hand from the US.

Do something about the inner city violence and black on black crime...murders and killing children. You might even have me raise an eyebrow then.

God help us.
 

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Hahaha, come on brother. If you were being sarcastic, I apologize for not identifying it.

Trump has a big mouth but he didn't go after several people EVERYONE knew he should go after. Dr. Fauci and Hilary are just the tip of the iceberg.

Recently on Carlson's X interview, Trump said he thinks Jeffrey Epstein probably killed himself... I asked myself how someone could ever come to that conclusion. I think Trump knows Epstein didn't kill himself and is pretending he GENUINELY thinks he killed himself. But why would he lie and pretend? Perhaps he is implicated and/or covering for the people he partied with? Either way, he's not as smart as he thinks he is if he believes Epstein killed himself...

Hopefully VPN asks for video footage of Epstein killing himself... oh wait, there isn't any... hrmm....
I hear tell Pompao is SUPPOSED to be an evangelical Christian. From Kansas. Seems far fetched to me.....
The least dirty shirt is all you have in politics I suppose.

 

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Cameron143

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Interesting way to phrase being rich and miserly, I may have to use this from time to time. :)
The underlying reason is always the problem. There is so much more to the story of the rich young ruler than money. People hear what they want to hear.
 
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Such wisdom. By all means, do not choose whichever you think is the lessor of 2 evils. Let's all be wishy washy and do nothing cause that always helps.
So, by that logic, we humans shouldn't vote. We should have AI programmed with the Bible and UN laws vote for us. :)
 

Niki7

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So, by that logic, we humans shouldn't vote. We should have AI programmed with the Bible and UN laws vote for us. :)
what logic?

I was responding to this from you which is anything but logical

I agree with this. Both parties are at fault here. I am pro life, but can still be against Trump.
whatever :rolleyes:
 

Niki7

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So I saw this a while ago, and being a considerate man I wanted to take time to consider, ponder, meditate, and pray before I responded. Having done all that, one conclusion sticks in my mind:

I cannot think of any instance, no matter how vile, wherein Jesus would use the poop emoji.

Just the fact that it's available here screams Christianity is going off the rails.

Dung
 

Niki7

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So tell me oh great seed time harvest person....you think Trump is the devil, yet the thing in the WH is actually the devil's little helper...him and whoever is pulling his strings (which seem to be wearing out real quick)

You might get some kind of visceral satisfaction out of xing posts, but you have not contributed actual thoughts to explain why Trump is such a bad bad man. Remember, this country is not a Theocracy and you are going to get someone in the WH but probably not anyone who will lead the entire country into a revival

Honestly, do try to do better and xing this post will just demonstrate your inability to actually formulate a response worthy of consideration.
 

Niki7

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Sander, I do not have to give you private reasons why I gave whatever reactions you might find on a post so don't bother emailing me requesting them.

We are not going to have a private conversation.