Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

I believe Jesus Christ died for all the “whosoevers” that will believe in Him.

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.

- John 3:16-17 (KJV)

But you don't

You call Jesus a liar.

Plain and simple

NO

IT DOES NOT SAY ELECT IN JOHN 3

why are you tryign to add to the word a word that is not there ?

what does this have to do with Gods promise to Israel in Gen 12, 15 and 17?

Then believe what Jesus said

Not what you THINK he said.

The "him" is God. Did you not read in the verse I posted, that faith was reckoned to Abraham FOR righteousness. That means that by the faith reckoned to him, was Abraham made righteous - originating as faith of Christ, not as the faith of Abraham

[Phl 3:9 KJV] 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

The question of whether Jesus died on the cross for the just/elect/saved whose names are written in the Book of Life is a matter of theological debate. Some Christians believe that Jesus died only for the elect, meaning those who are predestined by God to be saved, while others believe that Jesus died for all people, regardless of their status as elect or non-elect. The debate centers around the interpretation of various biblical passages, such as John 3:16, which states that God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, and Romans 8:28-30, which speaks of those who love God being predestined for conformity to the image of his Son.

Those who believe that Jesus died only for the elect argue that his death was a perfect sacrifice that secured and guaranteed every saving blessing for them. They point to passages such as John 10:11, which speaks of Jesus laying down his life for the sheep, and 2 Timothy 2:10, which speaks of Paul enduring all things for the sake of those who are chosen. They argue that Jesus' death was limited in the sense that he knew for whom he was dying and that his death would ultimately benefit only the elect.

On the other hand, those who believe that Jesus died for all people argue that his death was a perfect sacrifice that can save anyone, but that it only benefits those who believe in Jesus. They point to passages such as Isaiah 53:6, which speaks of the Lord causing the iniquity of us all to fall on him, and 1 John 2:2, which speaks of Jesus being the propitiation for our sins and not just ours, but also for those of the whole world.

In conclusion, the question of whether Jesus died on the cross for the just/elect/saved whose names are written in the Book of Life is a matter of theological debate. Both sides of the debate have biblical support, and ultimately, the answer may depend on one's interpretation of various passages in the Bible.

J.

Oh it would be effective to them, if they would just repent and believe

I don't particularly care about convincing you. I was explaining something.

No, not pointing back to Gen 25:23. Gen 25:23 is subsequent to, and a continuation of, the allegory of Agar and Sarah, as stated in Galatians 4:24.

My point was that in the Bible, God uses the earthly nation of Israel ( from Ishmael, the child of Agar - the bondwoman) symbolizing the unsaved: those under law;

as opposed to the heavenly Jerusalem (Isaac, the child of Sarah the freewoman) the children of God's promise - symbolizing the saved to demonstrate His salvation plan, with each leg (including Jacob and Esau), going down through subsequent generations with that allegory continuing up until the end of time. This allegory also forms the foundation of Romans 9 and all of the Bible.

History will prove that, looking forward into eternity, only the elect correctly believe in Jesus Christ; the impostors will be exposed.

Jesus could not have died for this current world if it is going to be destroyed. Had Jesus died for it, because of that, it can't be destroyed -
there would be no judgment against it because by Jesus, it would be sinless.

You have to remember that the unelects refuse to believe all sound doctrine from Jesus Christ.

You have to remember that the unelects refuse to believe all sound doctrine from Jesus Christ.

Your church does not teach sound doctrine. Your nameless church does not teach sound doctrine.

16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3

You clearly have no understand of the meaning of the word elect nor do you understand that God has put out an invitation to the entire world to accept His Son. Those who accept Him have eternal life.

YOU condemn what you think are non-elect and think you speak what is true. BUT in v. 17 we see that God did not send Christ into the world to condemn the world . Yet, you continually condemn those you wrongly state God condemn even thought He does not condemn
anyone who believes and accepts. Those people are called RIGHTEOUS.

God has not made 2 classes of people....declared some righteous and some not righteous. EVERY PERSON BORN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCEPT CHRIST AND BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS IN HIM.

Only the elect are eternally saved; it is quite obvious.

Calvin wants to close the door and way-Jesus is THE WAY-to a select few.
J.

History will prove that, looking forward into eternity, only the elect correctly believe in Jesus Christ; the impostors will be exposed.

et, you create an absurd and incorrect grammatical error and declare that the 'him' is God when all rules that apply to English declare that the 'him' in question is Abraham. In fact, there is no question. Unless you have zero comprehension of sentence structure...or deliberately wish to lead people astray because you are in a cult of some kind, there is no question that the 'him' refers to Abraham.

Yes? Quite obvious? Are you talking to us from heaven then? That would be the only way that you can say who the elect are....that is, all those who come to salvation in Christ Jesus.

You don't know who is saved and who is not saved. You may know some in this forum because we can say with certainty that Christ is our Savior. You do not have access to the Lamb's Book of Life. So what is actually obvious, is that you continue to bloviate, spin circles and create meaningless posts to the point one wonders if you are here as a troll or truly involved in a cult of some kind which you refuse to name.

Calvin wants to close the door and way-Jesus is THE WAY-to a select few.
J.

Calvinists can believe heaven is populated by a number no man can number...Revelation 7:9.