Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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selahsays

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Do you believe it is necessary to obey The New Testament Law of Jesus Christ? Yes or no?
Forgive me for interrupting, but I’ve just gotta say, “Yes, obedience is absolutely necessary.”

A believer follows the teachings of Jesus.

By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

- Hebrews 11:8 (KJV)

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

- Ephesians 1:4-6 (KJV)
 

rogerg

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I am only asking you. Do you believe it is necessary to obey The New Testament Law of Jesus Christ? Yes or no?
Too broad a question to be asked that way. Identify which laws you have in mind.
 

MerSee

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Too broad a question to be asked that way. Identify which laws you have in mind.
Either you believe it is necessary to obey The New Testament Law of Jesus Christ or you don't; It is really that simple.
 

MerSee

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I not posting the whole New Testament of the Holy Bible for you.

Please name a specific New Testament Law you believe is not necessary to obey.
 

rogerg

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I not posting the whole New Testament of the Holy Bible for you.

Please name a specific New Testament Law you believe is not necessary to obey.
None of them for salvation. Do you keep the whole New Testament?
 

rogerg

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I not posting the whole New Testament of the Holy Bible for you.

Please name a specific New Testament Law you believe is not necessary to obey.
The Law of Liberty is the only law we are to keep and even that one satisfied through/by Christ.

[Jas 2:12 KJV] 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
 

rogerg

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Please name a specific New Testament Law you believe is not necessary to obey.
The law of works

[Rom 3:27 KJV] 27 Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
 

rogerg

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Please name a specific New Testament Law you believe is not necessary to obey.
I missed the "not" part of your question, so I'll amend my reply now: any attempt to keep the law will not bring salvation,
but God's wrath, so relative to your question, it is not necessary that any written law be obeyed.
 

selahsays

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I missed the "not" part of your question, so I'll amend my reply now: any attempt to keep the law will not bring salvation,
but God's wrath, so relative to your question, it is not necessary that any written law be obeyed.
Hi there, Roger…. I think we’re really on the same page here.

There seems to be a misconception among some that the
teaching of obedience or good works is in conflict with the doctrine of justification by faith. …. But in actuality, both these teachings go hand in hand; they complement one another. The truth is that Christians do, in fact, adhere to a faith-based obedience, right? To put it another way, our obedience comes from our faith. People don't obey God until they have faith in Him and accept His teachings. We put our faith in His finished work at the Cross and our desire or delight is to obey His Word. Why? …because we trust and follow Him. :)
 

brightfame52

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I missed the "not" part of your question, so I'll amend my reply now: any attempt to keep the law will not bring salvation,
but God's wrath, so relative to your question, it is not necessary that any written law be obeyed.
Correct Roger, all necessary laws to be obeyed for ones Salvation was obeyed by Christ in their behalf, and by His One obedience they are and shall be made righteous rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Now if we are included in that many, we will be regenerated and given the gift of faith to embrace it.
 

selahsays

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Correct Roger, all necessary laws to be obeyed for ones Salvation was obeyed by Christ in their behalf, and by His One obedience they are and shall be made righteous rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Now if we are included in that many, we will be regenerated and given the gift of faith to embrace it.
Yes, Christians will be regenerated and given the gift of faith to embrace it; therefore, they will follow and obey Him.
 

Johann

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Yes, Christians will be regenerated and given the gift of faith to embrace it; therefore, they will follow and obey Him.
Aren't "Christians" regenerated already?
J.