Keep falling mentally into sin and the devil is trying to steal my future

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Fubario

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Guys I keep inviting the devil in by stumbling over the devil's name, and also by tripping and then accidently inviting the devil through just like things that make me go, OH NO, i'm going to die or sin. God help me I rebuke LUCIFER in JESUS CHRIST NAME and pray the blood of JESUS over me, save me oh God from my self and the pollution that comes from knowing what I can do wrong as opposed to what I can do right or what I am doing right. This folly is killing my soul, have mercy Yeshua, please I defy Satan and his host in Jesus name and claim the authority of one who believes in God. The problem with me guys, is that as I say these things, my mind is thinking of the twisted versions of these things because I know what evil is and its killing me, my evil is evil and my eye is killing me because its sayng, I COULD DO EVIL, I COULD DO THAT WRONG, its a terrible thing, the Lord protect you from that evil I have and deliver me from looking at the darkness more than the light.
 

levi85

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yes Lord , Amen
 

Blain

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Guys I keep inviting the devil in by stumbling over the devil's name, and also by tripping and then accidently inviting the devil through just like things that make me go, OH NO, i'm going to die or sin. God help me I rebuke LUCIFER in JESUS CHRIST NAME and pray the blood of JESUS over me, save me oh God from my self and the pollution that comes from knowing what I can do wrong as opposed to what I can do right or what I am doing right. This folly is killing my soul, have mercy Yeshua, please I defy Satan and his host in Jesus name and claim the authority of one who believes in God. The problem with me guys, is that as I say these things, my mind is thinking of the twisted versions of these things because I know what evil is and its killing me, my evil is evil and my eye is killing me because its sayng, I COULD DO EVIL, I COULD DO THAT WRONG, its a terrible thing, the Lord protect you from that evil I have and deliver me from looking at the darkness more than the light.
satan will severely attack those chosen by God to do great things in his kingdom, perhaps you are the other person i saw in my dream. Always remember that the enemy is strong far stronger than any human but you are not just any human you are a child of God and thus have the God of all creation backing you up.
 

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Dear Father In Heaven

Please be with our brother Fubario and help him with his request. Send angels to protect him from any evil influences and help him to read Your Holy Word and dwell on the contents of the Bible. Help him apply what he reads from the Bible into his life and to become more and more like Jesus. Help him to pray more and stay in constant contact with You.

If there is any evil that is trying to distract him from You please remove it and grant him peace and security in knowing You are with him and helping him to be an overcomer.

Give him a close walk with You and never let him go. Hold his heart close to you and help him to become a mighty warrior in Your army to help spread the gospel and share the news that Jesus is soon to return. Thank You Father for answering this prayer. In Jesus Name Amen.
 

Trailblazer

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You have the Lord with you. Jesus is the most powerful of all. Look at your spiritual awareness as a blessing from God.
You know about the enemy. So when the enemy sends one of his stupid little fallen angels to mess with you.
All it can do is put thoughts in your mind and tempt us. It can not make us do anything.

You have the Holy Spirit within you.
The Holy Spirit will guide you into what is right and good for you. Cast out and ignore any thoughts that are not good for you. Hold on to only the good thoughts that are from God.

With that knowledge! Hold your ground and rebuke these pesty unclean spirits in Jesus name. For these unclean spirits are powerless compared to the Lord. AMEN!

I pray to the heavenly father, to give you more Spiritual strength and Spiritual armor to fend off these unclean spirits that are bothering you.
In Jesus name. AMEN!
 
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johnnie

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Fubario,

You sound like you are your own worst enemy here buddy. If you were truly lost, I mean if the enemy truly had a hold of you, you wouldn't be so torn up, and I am sure you would not be here. Your conscience is not seared buddy, just a bit over active I think.

I don't know what you are struggling with exactly, I don't know that I understand what you mean by stumbling over the devil's name and some of the other things you said. What I do know, is that I can smell a person who is too hard on themselves a mile away--it takes one to know one-- but, man... you have made that an easy task. Clearly, if your inner self-talk is anything like your post, you are truly tormented.

My prayer for you is that you see that it is not about what you can do...either good or evil. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. Your mind is part of that flesh, but you also displayed the spirit's side here quite well, whether you know it or not.

Jesus paid it for us buddy. If our Father expected that after receiving Christ, that only the truly saved would walk perfectly, He wouldn't have bothered sacrificing His Son for us, He knew we couldn't do it, which is why He sent His Son in the first place.

I am sure you probably won't "get" this right away, and maybe I am wrong about you, but I have a feeling your torment is mostly self-inflicted. Which is sometimes the worst torment of all. I pray the Lord shows you the exit door of your own mind. Please be at peace.

Fight the good fight brother. Try not to beat yourself up, the world will have plenty of its way with you in that regard.

Stay strong and God bless.

-John

P.S. If you would like, feel free to privately message me. I have a shoulder like a runway...come in for a landing if need be.
 

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P.S. If you would like, feel free to privately message me. I have a shoulder like a runway...come in for a landing if need be.
I like this post a lot as it shows a lot of sympathy.
 
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Fubario

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its funny because my shoulder is really bad, my mouth fell out when I tripped over some mental stumblingblocks and words. I am doing so much better now thanks to your prayers and God has been at work in my life and I just wanted to let you know the Lord is saving me and He is winning and this has made me stronger and I still get opposition but its so much more manageable, I just need to get over some more stumblingblocks, please pray for my deliverance still from the devil's will and my own heart and stumblingblocks, thanks!
 

RickyZ

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satan will severely attack those chosen by God to do great things in his kingdom, perhaps you are the other person i saw in my dream. Always remember that the enemy is strong far stronger than any human but you are not just any human you are a child of God and thus have the God of all creation backing you up.
Amen. I've found that you can tell how much satan fears your potential in God by how hard hell works to hold you under. I've experienced the things you describe here, violently. The answer is 1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. When my thoughts, my mind, my spirit is under attack like you describe I just start chanting that, with my lips, you have to speak it. They will resist but they hate it and keep at it enough (how did Paul put it - "persevere") and they will be forced away. Just keep repeating it, Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord... And praying as you do, you have the right idea.

Lord God where two or more agree and I agree with Fubaro that You cover him with the Blood of Your Son, may it burn the hands of that which attacks him; And that you wash him clean with the Holy Spirit, may the Spirit push back like a flood against these things that attack his thoughts and visions. Lord I ask angels and ask even more be sent to protect Fubaro, that they do battle with and occupy the enemy, and more to bear him up and minister to him. I command these demons to be bound and silenced, and cast from Fabaro's presence into the world. And I praise You Jesus and give thanks that it is Your authority, and not mine, that they have to submit to. Lord you have gifted Fubaro such discernment, and which such comes much persecution. Guard your saint Lord, make his mind of Your mind, Your thoughts his thoughts, and make no room for the thoughts and taunts of the enemy.

Father, as always, I am in awe that we are able to come to You, and that You have made ways to persevere and defeat these enemies. Lead us all in that way, and may we rejoice and find strength in it.

Amen
 
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johnnie

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When my thoughts, my mind, my spirit is under attack like you describe I just start chanting that, with my lips, you have to speak it. They will resist but they hate it and keep at it enough (how did Paul put it - "persevere") and they will be forced away. Just keep repeating it, Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord... And praying as you do, you have the right idea.
Amen
We are told to stay away from vain repetition. How does repeating...or as you say, "chanting" increase your chances of success. My sister is caught up in the charismatic movement, and has been for years. There is a demon under every rock in her world. She now focuses more on "the devil" than she does Christ. And her life shows fruit of it. Pure misery. I used to believe this stuff. This sort of thinking is dangerous in my humble opinion; it is the antithesis of submission. It is once again, by works, and appears frighteningly close to witchcraft and new age. What if your chant doesn't work and the torment remains? Is there another thread of Christ that would fair better?? On and on you chase it.

We just need to submit, and let go. We create our own strongholds. That's what Paul was writing about in 2nd Corinthians. Our strongholds of our own sin and defenses against the gospel. It is contrary to salvation to think that demons cause all of our faltering. If they are to blame, why is there a penalty for us? Do you go to jail for a crime I commit? No.

The mental anguish Job went through was his own. As far as I can remember, he was not tormented in his mind by satan. And the demon possessed in the new testament were truly out of their minds...they were not lucid and self-aware. They were mad as a result of it. That doesn't seem to be Fubario's predicament, he is still in control of himself it seems. He needs to learn how to take thoughts captive. That takes practice Fubario.

Fubario, everyone here means well. I am not trying to attack what this other man says. I worry it will feed into your issues, not help address them. I know from my own experience that this sort of thinking isn't helpful, and when it doesn't work...the obvious response is "God must not love me...I must be doing something wrong..." Nothing...not even ourselves can separate us form God's love.

Hang in there, and go on a diet of the mind.

God bless.
 
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RickyZ

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Johnnie you are absolutely right to speak a cautionary word here; this is an area with many fine lines and need for discernment. And I'll agree that those who see demons in everything are just as wrong as those who don't see them anywhere. But as Hebrews 5:14 says But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. You are right too in saying that those who are possessed will be out of their minds. But being possessed is different from being attacked. These demons afflicting Fubario (sorry I must have put the error into my dictionary) aren't possessing they're attacking. Now, Christ saves us from possession, but not from attack. It is up to us (thru prayer and the gifts/fruit of the Holy Spirit) to enforce His authority in the here and now. So who is satan going to attack the most? The quiet Sunday churchgoer who poses no real threat, or someone with the calling and ability to take up the armor and do some real damage? (That's a word for you Fubario to take up your armor and do some real damage). God has worked miracles in and around my life that would just blow your mind... but the price for my participation in that is attacks that would equally spin your head. This is war, spiritual war, as a lot of sleeping Christians are about to find out.

Fubario - these attacks upon you are because you are to be on the front line. Let me put it this way - it's not going to get any better. Your only choice is to learn how to fight back. And you start with the assurity that Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord. No matter what that demon tries to say, your answer is, Jesus is Lord.
 
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Amen to all on this thread trailblazer youbtook all the words out of my heart and I feel your right fubario has a gift of spiritual awareness he just doesnt know it yet,
What ya need fubario is to pray for that spiritual awarness that you have to put ya hands on ya brothers and dont say anything to them just speak to lord in your mind and say lord is this child ok and see if ya get a message back.
Do it all in silence its the best way silence is golden.
If you sense there is something upseeting pray with your hand on there sholder and say in silence be happy in the farthers name amen
 
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PS it may not be a message it may be a feeling that this child' needs love peace and most of all there freedom and your strength fubario amen.
 
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johnnie

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And I'll agree that those who see demons in everything are just as wrong as those who don't see them anywhere.

This is war, spiritual war, as a lot of sleeping Christians are about to find out.

Fubario - these attacks upon you are because you are to be on the front line. Let me put it this way - it's not going to get any better. Your only choice is to learn how to fight back. And you start with the assurity that Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Lord. No matter what that demon tries to say, your answer is, Jesus is Lord.
RickyZ,

I agree as well that demons do exist and obviously serve some sort of purpose. However, a lot of the Christian community who places casual or extreme emphasis on the workings of these spiritual entities, gathers their knowledge from extra-biblical sources and has disseminated it throughout Christian circles, until they have become unquestioned, and generally accepted truths.

For example: there are those that claim there is a "demon of cancer". This is laughable to me. Not sure what (if any) scripture they are turning on its ear in order to make this so (If there is I will humbly admit my fault and error). That is just one of many. I think a lot of Christians want to don the "demon hunter" persona, or (in more correct Christian parlance) "spirit warrior" or "prayer warrior" as a means (whether they know it or not) to fulfill something inside themselves whose ultimate source is pride.

Yes I am aware of Ephesians 6:12, et al. This is not our battle to wrestle against. This is Christ's, and He is really our only covering. How can you say a prayer of covering for me? Whose covering? If you are praying thinking you have the power to move God's hand or invoke Christ or the Holy spirit...Isn't that just like some shamanistic medicine man calling on some spirit to do some work for him? I think so...many will disagree. We are told to put on the whole armor of God. Emphasis on who owns/created the armor. God. Therefore, it is His ultimate working here...not how powerful a prayer warrior you contact or happen to think you are. Again, in my opinion these prayers are prideful, not true supplications, and I say that because (again, whether known to them or not) their "prayer warrior" ego is getting a stroke every time they say these prayers and the glory isn't God's in the end...it is there own. It's self-importance. I won't speak for God, but I wouldn't be surprised if He pays these prideful prayers no mind at all. I have seen so much of this in some churches it is nauseating. Its experiential Christianity in one of its most hideous forms. I am not saying that everyone who prays for someone is guilty of this, I just question those that give themselves the un-biblical title of "warrior". This is boastful works in my humble opinion. I could be wrong.

A lot of people say they "hear" from the Lord; I don't mean audibly, I am referring to the, "still small voice" misinterpretation. And guess what...every time one of these people told me something they "heard" would come to pass, it never does. Not that God doesn't move in people's life. I just don't personally believe He is out there telling a bunch of people. I am not sure where in the bible (not taken out of context) where it says this will be so. Help me out if I am wrong. This is Again, this is a case of people thinking they have some special relationship with God. This is so grossly rampant in some Christian circles that some allow time before sermons for people in the congregation to stand and give prophecies, and "a word" from the Lord. Again, these are people who want to believe their own inner voice is in fact God's. You talking to someone who used to think this.

Conversely, the same happens with this whole demonic thing. If you want to believe a demon is oppressing you, you will, but in reality this is some more spiritual navel-gazing and blame redirection. All of this stuff is a form of covert-narcissism in my opinion. I am guilty of buying into this sort of stuff for a long while. I realize I have known much more peace not giving it any credence, ergo...had it truly been a demonic oppression, the peace from letting it go would not remain.

I see God working more clearly (in my own life and in the lives of others) who are truly humble with Him, and honestly searching their own hearts in attempt to grow. We are not puppets controlled by darkness and light concurrently. We have a whole heck of a lot more to do with it than some want to admit.

Pride is the source of all of our ills. Selfishness comes from it, and it is selfishness that leads man to his most destructive appetites: Theft, rape, murder, lying. In all of there varying forms, whether it be killing on the field of battle, or corporate fraud...it all stems form us not following the only two real commandments: Love God with all of your heart, and love they neighbor as yourself.

This is your true ticket to freedom Fubario. Take the focus off of yourself, let go, and peace will come to you.

I don't have all of the answers. I just know that I watch my own pride like a hawk, and still fail to corral it all the time. I am hoping this helps you...from one man who has struggled to another.

I will pray for your peace. Stay strong.

God bless,

John
 

RickyZ

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Just as an honest question, what purpose do you think demons serve?

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See the kicker is John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Who does this stuff? Those who believe in Him. Do those who believe in Him ask Him to do these things? No, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also. Do you believeth in Him? Then it is YOU who are to do these things.

Now that's sticky wicket no. 1, because it's awfully hard to do things for the Lord and not involve self. It's like, you have to participate, but you can't think wow I did that. Because you didn't. Except by your required participation.

I've got some pentismatic experience behind me, actually I've got experience in most every corner of the room. You are right to question what you see going on in overboard churches. Paul wrote to them, 1 Cor 14 - here's the time and place for this, here's the time and place for that, if you can't confine yourselves to these parameters then put a leash on it. But it's best to desire it, and do it right. Rather than wholesale dismiss all of it and miss out. Like I said, both ends of that pendulum swing are wrong.

I'm a functionalist. I believe in functional Christianity. If God tells us we are to cast out demons, we should function at a level that enables us to cast out demons. If Jesus tells us to heal the sick, we should function at a level that lets us bring healing to the sick. If Paul tells us to responsibly speak in tongues and prophesy, we should function with the freedom to speak in tongues and prophesy. Responsibly.

But if we proclaim that God is all powerful, and then take away His power by adding not here, not now, not these, not us, not me - then we limit the Holy Spirit’s ability to work gifts and bear fruit in us as Jesus intended.

So back to participation without self. It's even harder to relate experience without expressing self. How do you say God told me to smite the rock, so I smote the rock, without using the words me and I? How do we hear those words me and I in a testimony without re-applying self? How would I relate "I hit the stick upon the rock and the bear was turned"? It wasn't I who turned the bear, it was God, but only because I participated by hitting the stick on the rock. How does one relay such a thing without involving self in either speaking or hearing?

So I guess it comes down to whether you believe you can be confronted by a situation, hear your Father's voice telling you what to do with that situation, do that thing, and see it come to pass. And how far can you - I mean God - take that? Do you think you could seek God, hear His voice, do what He says and affect the seas? http://christianchat.com/blogs/rickyz/4349-beach-incident.html . Again, he that believeth WILL DO these things. Not ask for them to be done, but do them when asked. Participate with out self. But participate. Without going overboard and requiring the leash.

Discern that fine line - between participation and self - and believe. And you will see miraculous signs and wonders that don't require the circus act.

And you will also see how much the ruler of this world hates that in people...
 

Trailblazer

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its funny because my shoulder is really bad, my mouth fell out when I tripped over some mental stumblingblocks and words. I am doing so much better now thanks to your prayers and God has been at work in my life and I just wanted to let you know the Lord is saving me and He is winning and this has made me stronger and I still get opposition but its so much more manageable, I just need to get over some more stumblingblocks, please pray for my deliverance still from the devil's will and my own heart and stumblingblocks, thanks!
Some tips that may help your battle. Do not make the enemy bigger then he is. Satan Fell because of pride and boasting. Its Satan's little fallen buddies that most likely would be messing with us. Satan has bigger fish to fry.
Like tempting ISIS. Or have Presidents and Kings make stupid decisions So lets not boost there ego's. ;)

Do not feed these fallen angels with fear or fighting them in the flesh, Like getting upset or reacting. There mission/agenda is to make you miserable. For it is very hard to praise the Lord and do the Lords work when we are upset.
Resist the devil and he will flee, says the scripture. If there mission is a failure with you. They will flee/move on to other missions.

There is scripture saying. He who is in me. Is greater then what is in this world. I also heard a Pastor mention this in his spiritual warfare series.
Basically what the scriptures is Saying. The Holy Spirit is in you. The Holy Spirit is more powerful then anything that the devil can send your way.

Jesus himself once said. Get behind me Satan. Saying that gives me the impression that them words command the enemy stop the direct frontal contact with you. You are not Jesus. So you would have to call on Jesus to get this unclean spirit or whatever it is. Behind you.

So stand your ground. He that is in you is greater then what is in the world. You do not have to react to whatever feelings or temptations the enemy sends your way.
Do not give the enemy any power over you. Pass what feelings or temptations that are not from God over to Jesus.

At one time in my life, When I was really coming to the Lord. I was so full of the Holy Spirit. I noticed that there were some unclean spirits that are able to give me feelings of anger, depression,anxiety, etc. Feelings that are not from God.

When I would get the feeling of any of these unclean spirits trying to get hold of me. "Kind of a unsettling feeling".
I would let the Lord know which unclean spirit that I was feeling.
The moment I let the Lord know I was being messed with by whatever unclean spirit it was. It would flee that very moment. It got to the point that all I had to say was!...Lord, I am being messed with. Whatever negative emotion that I was having, It was gone in an instant.

Now days if something is not going as well as I would like. My wording is more like!.. Lord, Jesus,
I want you to be aware of,.... If it is in your will. Seems the response I get back now days!... My grace is sufficient for you. lol I am content with that. :)
 
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Fubario

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I think that we all spiritually aware you can be blessed with spiritual discernment. My friend has an intuition when it comes to spiritual states of people, some of my other friends are occasionally prophetic and it's awesome because I am so encouraged and praise God for that awesome praise God for that awesome praise his name, I am at a loss at what else to do but praise God when they do things like that its so awesome. I know that I have a spirit of stumbling and fear, especially of messing myself up and ruining myself. It's a fear I am sure most people have, but some have overcome. I need help overcoming the fear of losing everything I worked for and need reassurance in my salvation constantly. It's the stumblingblocks that get me. I want to say the good and steer clear of the wrong, hopefully that gets better. I wonder what to do! I am only where I am at, and there is lots of affliction from my own words, because I think of the wrong and I fall down. It's like Paul says, he heard the Law and he died (Romans 7:7-11). In other words, my awareness of sin causes me to stumble, by knowing what I shouldn't do, I am more liable to fall down. I do not want to look at the darkness anymore it makes me struggle with thoughts I shouldn't and death is at the door. Dark sentences keep coming to my mind, it's a torment, this requires lot's of support in the spirit, the Word has spoken to me encouraging things the last couple of days. I am hoping this continues. Thanks for the continued prayers, I am being healed and God is answering. Let me respond with truth and obedience! Praise God and thanks guys, let me not become a evil thing!
 

RickyZ

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Some tips that may help your battle. Do not make the enemy bigger then he is. Satan Fell because of pride and boasting. Its Satan's little fallen buddies that most likely would be messing with us. Satan has bigger fish to fry.
Like tempting ISIS. Or have Presidents and Kings make stupid decisions So lets not boost there ego's. ;)

Do not feed these fallen angels with fear or fighting them in the flesh, Like getting upset or reacting. There mission/agenda is to make you miserable. For it is very hard to praise the Lord and do the Lords work when we are upset.
Resist the devil and he will flee, says the scripture. If there mission is a failure with you. They will flee/move on to other missions.

There is scripture saying. He who is in me. Is greater then what is in this world. I also heard a Pastor mention this in his spiritual warfare series.
Basically what the scriptures is Saying. The Holy Spirit is in you. The Holy Spirit is more powerful then anything that the devil can send your way.

Jesus himself once said. Get behind me Satan. Saying that gives me the impression that them words command the enemy stop the direct frontal contact with you. You are not Jesus. So you would have to call on Jesus to get this unclean spirit or whatever it is. Behind you.

So stand your ground. He that is in you is greater then what is in the world. You do not have to react to whatever feelings or temptations the enemy sends your way.
Do not give the enemy any power over you. Pass what feelings or temptations that are not from God over to Jesus.

At one time in my life, When I was really coming to the Lord. I was so full of the Holy Spirit. I noticed that there were some unclean spirits that are able to give me feelings of anger, depression,anxiety, etc. Feelings that are not from God.

When I would get the feeling of any of these unclean spirits trying to get hold of me. "Kind of a unsettling feeling".
I would let the Lord know which unclean spirit that I was feeling.
The moment I let the Lord know I was being messed with by whatever unclean spirit it was. It would flee that very moment. It got to the point that all I had to say was!...Lord, I am being messed with. Whatever negative emotion that I was having, It was gone in an instant.

Now days if something is not going as well as I would like. My wording is more like!.. Lord, Jesus,
I want you to be aware of,.... If it is in your will. Seems the response I get back now days!... My grace is sufficient for you. lol I am content with that. :)
Amen my friend
 
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Fubario i have sspiritual awarness to and I think by the sound of things your like me and just need some time on your own away from all the distractions like me i have had no tv on for 4 days just some peaceful music played really low that I like in a room that has no distraction and the light from out side hits well.
Try it for one week do everything your self cooking washing etc only do the thing that you like dont let any outside sauce intervere for one week such ad any unwanted noise like being controlled by the television or other peoples ideas.
After one week you should start to get your strenght. And maybe then you can really get good work done with your spiritual awarness that you have.
One of mine is i see hate in peoples eyes and i have to stand up to it and still show love. But it can be fearafull at time and spitualy it can zap your strenght. Another is i have a gift of what is coming next to but after my strenght is renewed
 
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