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Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
Doesn't seem like anyone wants to touch this. Perhaps it's uncomfortable or sounds unbiblical?
In any case.....Weak thinking cannot lead to strong character as much as strong thinking cannot lead to weak character. Prayer should be aligning our thinking with God's not trying to align God's with ours.
Doesn't seem like anyone wants to touch this. Perhaps it's uncomfortable or sounds unbiblical?
In any case.....Weak thinking cannot lead to strong character as much as strong thinking cannot lead to weak character. Prayer should be aligning our thinking with God's not trying to align God's with ours.
Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
It is a nothing statement. I love it when the man in the bible just asked God to be merciful to him, a sinner. Jesus loved that. The other man just told God what great things he had done which brought about nothing.
We receive a lot of what we don't deserve just because of His great mercy towards us. And that is why we pray in the name of our Righteousness, Jesus Christ. It is through Him that we receive anything.
I have learned to pray to God's mercy....not from my goodness.
It is a nothing statement. I love it when the man in the bible just asked God to be merciful to him, a sinner. Jesus loved that. The other man just told God what great things he had done which brought about nothing.
We receive a lot of what we don't deserve just because of His great mercy towards us. And that is why we pray in the name of our Righteousness, Jesus Christ. It is through Him that we receive anything.
I have learned to pray to God's mercy....not from my goodness.
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Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
If it's a nothing statement then why does the bible command us to guard our thoughts....to think about those things that are lovely? In your view of spirituality you neglect the other two parts that make up a man.
If it's a nothing statement then why does the bible command us to guard our thoughts....to think about those things that are lovely? In your view of spirituality you neglect the other two parts that make up a man.
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Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
That's a good question and one only you can answer but the fact is that we do not exist entirely on a spirit level. Sure...the spirit that makes us up is the eternal part of us but didn't God knit ALL that makes us up in the womb. The point is that not everything is a spiritual problem. Some of it is just simply bad habits that are just obeying the universal law of sewing and reaping.
That's a good question and one only you can answer but the fact is that we do not exist entirely on a spirit level. Sure...the spirit that makes us up is the eternal part of us but didn't God knit ALL that makes us up in the womb. The point is that not everything is a spiritual problem. Some of it is just simply bad habits that are just obeying the universal law of sewing and reaping.
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Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
I don't know who said it, but I agree with it. I personally look at it like it’s telling us we can't just pray for something then sit there waiting for it. God will give us the strength to do it, and even lead us in the right direction to get there, but that doesn't change our responsibility to get up and make it happen. So you can sit around wishing and praying for whatever all day long and get nothing, because without getting up and making it happen you are just trying to make God your genie.
I don't know who said it, but I agree with it. I personally look at it like it’s telling us we can't just pray for something then sit there waiting for it. God will give us the strength to do it, and even lead us in the right direction to get there, but that doesn't change our responsibility to get up and make it happen. So you can sit around wishing and praying for whatever all day long and get nothing, because without getting up and making it happen you are just trying to make God your genie.
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I agree with you Jimbone. I was referring to the things that we can receive from God not because we have earned it, but from His mercy. Of course, when I am sick, I drink lots of water, eat carefully, rest and do everything in my power to gain healing, but ultimately I trust the Lord's hand in it as having the most power.
Whatever I pray for, I always ask the Lord for wisdom in what I might need to do. Sometimes I hear in my spirit to do nothing but wait. That is when I have to trust in His mercy upon the situation.
I agree with you Jimbone. I was referring to the things that we can receive from God not because we have earned it, but from His mercy. Of course, when I am sick, I drink lots of water, eat carefully, rest and do everything in my power to gain healing, but ultimately I trust the Lord's hand in it as having the most power.
Whatever I pray for, I always ask the Lord for wisdom in what I might need to do. Sometimes I hear in my spirit to do nothing but wait. That is when I have to trust in His mercy upon the situation.
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Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
An example would be a person praying for good health but eating unhealthy food and living an unhealthy lifestyle or praying to be a blessing to others while nurturing bitterness in their heart. The examples are endless really.
An example would be a person praying for good health but eating unhealthy food and living an unhealthy lifestyle or praying to be a blessing to others while nurturing bitterness in their heart. The examples are endless really.
Re: "Not what a man wishes and prays for does he receive, but that which he justly ea
I agree completely, and want to make clear that I was in no way trying to suggest that prayer isn't absolutely vital. I am still in awethat we can have open communication and are loved, cared for, and guided by thecreator of everything. He is just so overwhelmingly great on every level and iswith us in everything if we let Him (and still is even when we don'tacknowledge it).
I agree completely, and want to make clear that I was in no way trying to suggest that prayer isn't absolutely vital. I am still in awethat we can have open communication and are loved, cared for, and guided by thecreator of everything. He is just so overwhelmingly great on every level and iswith us in everything if we let Him (and still is even when we don'tacknowledge it).