I struggle with mastribation

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Moose_Almighty

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FOR $64,000, give me one Bible verse on masturbation.

Lust is a sin, yes.
So does someone have proof that everyone who masturbates is also lusting, visualizing in the mind doing sex with someone?

Now if you somehow are postulating that something is a sin which is neither a violation of Love God nor Love neighbor as self, methinks you are into legalism.

Let us refrain from adding to scripture.
To be sure if you act against faith you sin.
But beware of making your own list of sins which are not in the Bible.

Perhaps you should check what Dr. Dobson said about this.

Leviticus has something on it. Instead of quoting the verse i'm going to paraphrase what I remember reading... When a man ejaculates his seamen, he's not clean for the rest of the day and he has to wash himself and everything that the seamen made contact with. Ironically right after that text they went hardcore into saying when a woman has her period, same rules apply as when a guy ejaculates but it seems like they were a lot harder and had more rules on the woman. But I think it was Jesus who said this if you think about a person in a sexual manner, it's the same as if you were with them because that's where your hearts at. But I think he said it towards people who are married did that, so if you're single i'm not sure? Haven't got that far in my bible to find that answer.

From personal experience, when you put God first, masturbating just doesn't feel right anymore. You just feel empty and dirty after the deed is done. I don't know if it's in the bible specifically but you don't have to tell my heart that there's something wrong with it. lol
 
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In context...

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” [SUP]14 [/SUP]Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.” [SUP]16 [/SUP]As it is, you boast in your arrogant schemes. All such boasting is evil. [SUP]17 [/SUP]If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.

In context the scripture seems to refer to the pride of man making their own choices outside of Gods will.
 

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It was said, For $64,000 give me a verse on masturbation.

I have to tell you that Ecclesiastes 9:10 will not get the $64,000!

And I testify to you that over my life I now look back in amazement at how I worried myself sick about some things that had nothing to do with loving neighbor as self,
while doing other things with a clear conscience, which things now I am aghast that I did.

May the Lord deliver us from feeling guilty over Biblically non-issues while being obtuse to what really matters in life. Deliver us from straining at gnats while swallowing camels.
 

JesusMyOnly

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I thought that verse meant if we were convicted not to do something and we are convicted it is sin then it is to us?
So wouldn't mastribation fall into that category if someone was convicted not to do it?
Nvm Idk what I'm talking about..however there is a verse that says something about being convicted to not do certain things then its a sin for you if you are convicted not to do it.
 

Atwood

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In context...

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Now listen, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.” [SUP]14 [/SUP]Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Instead, you ought to say, “If it is the Lord’s will, we will live and do this or that.” [SUP]16 [/SUP]As it is, you boast in your arrogant schemes. All such boasting is evil. [SUP]17 [/SUP]If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.

In context the scripture seems to refer to the pride of man making their own choices outside of Gods will.
What connection does this have to the thread?

And we know God's will, it is that we love neighbor as self, & act out that love. It is not a matter of mechanically obeying just because we must do right, but we actually have to care for others.
 

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Nvm Idk what I'm talking about..however there is a verse that says something about being convicted to not do certain things then its a sin for you if you are convicted not to do it.
Well, you need to quote a verse that says "convicted" to make your case.
Romans 14 speaks about the "weak brother" who feels guilty about something he should not feel guilty about. That is not conviction, but weak conscience.

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Gal 5.
 

JesusMyOnly

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Maybe Romans 14 is what I was thinking..but I can't be for sure. Thats why I said I have no clue what I'm talking about. XD


Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Gal 5. What if the sin of mastribation is bondage for someone who is struggling with it? An addiction that they preferred not to have?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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A century ago he'd already be married. We've gone backwards in many ways as we've progressed and waiting until we're in our thirties to marry is one of them imho.
 

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Yes Lord Jesus, Amen
 

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The fact that no porn is involved makes you even further ahead of the sin then you actually know, that's a good thing!

Now being upfront with you, I don't know how masturbating works within the mind of a woman so i'm not going to give you the same advice I would give a man. I can't speak for a woman but usually these urges occur when you're not doing anything but sitting around, chilling, or in bed thinking. Whether that's the same case for you or not, try this...

When you do feel the urge to masturbate, instead of masturbating make a little journal where you can write your feelings down, or better yet write a letter to God of what's going on. That will show God that you're really trying to fight this sin and it will also keep you occupied from not doing it. While you're writing or when you finish, God will come down and work his heavenly magic and lift that weight off your chest and everything will be ok. When the urges come again, go back and reflect with what you wrote down and reflect the torment it caused you so you don't do it again.

You have a strong heart for coming forward with this, many just try to make it on their own and struggle with it even longer than they have to. You are a truly blessed person and I believe in you, you'll definitely overcome! When you do overcome, be there for those who are going through the same struggle. They'll need your advice to win!

God Bless!
-Moose_Almighty-

That is such a good idea!! I hear about prayer journals all the time, a journal used in the right way would be really helpful. Maybe....hmmm.......OOOOOOOOOOH I JUST GOT AN IDEA. Get a junk journal I can take nearly everywhere, and write verses, draw pictures, have photos, fill it up with all kinds of stuff. When I am tempted, flip to a page. :D :D
 

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FOR $64,000, give me one Bible verse on masturbation.

Lust is a sin, yes.
So does someone have proof that everyone who masturbates is also lusting, visualizing in the mind doing sex with someone?

Now if you somehow are postulating that something is a sin which is neither a violation of Love God nor Love neighbor as self, methinks you are into legalism.

Let us refrain from adding to scripture.
To be sure if you act against faith you sin.
But beware of making your own list of sins which are not in the Bible.

Perhaps you should check what Dr. Dobson said about this.

I know specifically there are parts in the Bible that mention fleeing from sexual sin, for us to be examples in our purity. And I remember it talking about people "burning in their lust."

Ususally mastribation goes in levels: temptation, lust, succumbing to lust, mastribation. That seems to go very much with the verse that speaks about us being tempted, temptation being us being lead away by our lusts, and then that leading to sin. Also, just common sense, if sex is just for marriage then we should have no need to reach down there unless we're putting a tampon or using the bathroom. XDD
 
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I know specifically there are parts in the Bible that mention fleeing from sexual sin, for us to be examples in our purity. And I remember it talking about people "burning in their lust."

Ususally mastribation goes in levels: temptation, lust, succumbing to lust, mastribation. That seems to go very much with the verse that speaks about us being tempted, temptation being us being lead away by our lusts, and then that leading to sin. Also, just common sense, if sex is just for marriage then we should have no need to reach down there unless we're putting a tampon or using the bathroom. XDD
Well, the common argument is that people can masturbate without lusting or visualizing anything sexual. I suppose you could say it's a more clinical approach. I've heard of this. I find this quite difficult to believe, though people have told me they have done it. I remain skeptical that someone can do this continually and never have any sexual or lustful thoughts. It is a sexual act.
 
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"Mastribation" as it is said, doesn´t come alone, because it also seeks its long for human affection, the deepest affection a human being might have sought for and, more than a moment of "nasty lust" or brief self-indulgency, it is a huge groan to be loved, to feel life it is more than a common meaningless living, a thing I will not call a crazy living.

Some words read around reminded me this:

Mat 23:4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger.
 
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It was said, For $64,000 give me a verse on masturbation.

I have to tell you that Ecclesiastes 9:10 will not get the $64,000!

And I testify to you that over my life I now look back in amazement at how I worried myself sick about some things that had nothing to do with loving neighbor as self,
while doing other things with a clear conscience, which things now I am aghast that I did.

May the Lord deliver us from feeling guilty over Biblically non-issues while being obtuse to what really matters in life. Deliver us from straining at gnats while swallowing camels.
For nothing, an old woman, can tell you what she wanted:

Gen 18:12 So Sarah laughed to herself, saying, "After I am worn out, and my lord is old, shall I have pleasure?"
 

Blain

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Well I am very relieved there were no judgemental or condemning comments as far as I could see. Steph what you struggle with is one of the hardest things for the flesh to overcome. lust does not always come from porn or thinking of others and saddly some are burdened with more lustful desires than others. everyone struggles with one sin or another but steph you need to stop beating yourself up so much. its hard to move on and grow if you are angry and down on yourself, remember what I said i tell myself everytime I screw up? keep moving forward. no matter how many times i fall how often i screw up i tell myself keep moving forward knowing God forgives me so I leave what i did in the past and keep my heart set on God and if i should do it again i re do the process.

You what makes a person a strong warrior of god which we are all called to be is not how much they dont screw up but how many times they choose to get back up and keep going. have heart set on god more than anything and everything else falls into place
 

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Well I am very relieved there were no judgemental or condemning comments as far as I could see. Steph what you struggle with is one of the hardest things for the flesh to overcome. lust does not always come from porn or thinking of others and saddly some are burdened with more lustful desires than others. everyone struggles with one sin or another but steph you need to stop beating yourself up so much. its hard to move on and grow if you are angry and down on yourself, remember what I said i tell myself everytime I screw up? keep moving forward. no matter how many times i fall how often i screw up i tell myself keep moving forward knowing God forgives me so I leave what i did in the past and keep my heart set on God and if i should do it again i re do the process.

You what makes a person a strong warrior of god which we are all called to be is not how much they dont screw up but how many times they choose to get back up and keep going. have heart set on god more than anything and everything else falls into place
I think that is interestingly the one thing I have never questioned. God still loves me. God still forgives. God knew I was going to do it before I did it so I haven't even shocked Him and He loves me no matter what. He knew exactly what I was when He called me, before I even knew. That last one just hit me in the chest. God loves me THAT much.
 
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Wow I never thought about that. Hm...
I would argue that all sin has an insecurity as its precursor. What did satan play on with eve in the garden? He caused her to feel insecure.
 
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I would argue that all sin has an insecurity as its precursor. What did satan play on with eve in the garden? He caused her to feel insecure.
How did Jesus respond when satan tried to do the same thing to him in the desert? With Gods truth.
 

Blain

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I think that is interestingly the one thing I have never questioned. God still loves me. God still forgives. God knew I was going to do it before I did it so I haven't even shocked Him and He loves me no matter what. He knew exactly what I was when He called me, before I even knew. That last one just hit me in the chest. God loves me THAT much.
my dear you have no icea the love he has for and I am speaking from experience. The love he has for is so deep rich beautiful and abundant that the human body is unable to contain it, you will have only one response and that is for him to take you so u can be in his arms forever. If you think you love him now wait until he pours his love into u in a supernatural way your heart will simply melt for him. I have only known one other person who had this experience and encounter with him but she had the same reaction I did and that was for him to take my life so I may be with him forever. I want everyone to experience the love he showed me because once he does thats it game over he is your you are his and only fall head over heels for him over and over again.

What would u say if I told you this struggle you are going through is a good thing? See whatever bad situation im in i try to look at it in a different way, if you change your perspective everything changes with it. See one day you will overcome this and because you know the struggle you know how it makes u feel u can have compassion on those who go through it and can help them.

If you look at a cloud and see a animal tilt your head and you'll see a car. you get it? its all about perspective
 

Atwood

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Maybe Romans 14 is what I was thinking..but I can't be for sure. Thats why I said I have no clue what I'm talking about. XD


Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Gal 5. What if the sin of mastribation is bondage for someone who is struggling with it? An addiction that they preferred not to have?
What if someone wishes to confess a sin & ask prayer for help on it, but that sin is not listed in the Bible? I suggest that if one wants to confess a sin, one quote the Bible verse which one has violated.

If you think something is bondage, why not find a Bible verse that defines it as bondage? Bondage in Galatians certainly focuses on legalism.