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Old February 7th, 2010
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I have a special prayer request, more important then any I have had before. My youngest son is suffering terribly with rebellion and defiance. He wants to be the boss, does not have any respect for me or his father and seems to hate us.

He is failing several subjects in school, and I have tried and tried to talk to him. His brother's took a very difficult path of drugs and drinking and incarceration. My youngest son seems to be following their example except for the drinking and drugs.

He doesnt seem to care about God or what God can do for him. He wont go to church. He just seems so very very angry all the time.

I am so scared of losing this child that I dont know what to do. I pray and I pray and he just gets worse. Please pray for him. Anytime you can think of, just pray.

Thank you so much

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how old is he deb?
sounds like he needs tough love
not the weak kind
only his dad can provide that
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I have a special prayer request, more important then any I have had before. My youngest son is suffering terribly with rebellion and defiance. He wants to be the boss, does not have any respect for me or his father and seems to hate us.

He is failing several subjects in school, and I have tried and tried to talk to him. His brother's took a very difficult path of drugs and drinking and incarceration. My youngest son seems to be following their example except for the drinking and drugs.

He doesnt seem to care about God or what God can do for him. He wont go to church. He just seems so very very angry all the time.

I am so scared of losing this child that I dont know what to do. I pray and I pray and he just gets worse. Please pray for him. Anytime you can think of, just pray.

Thank you so much

Debbie
You didn’t ask for advice, but I still wanted to share this:

He who spares the rod hates his son,
but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him. Prov 13:24
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Precious Sunshine,

I am indeed praying, I also had this issue with my children, but, PRAISE GOD, not anymore............

I am interceding for you and your husband and of course for your son.


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Its a little complicated with the dad thing. His natural father is my ex, who is an alcoholic and will not allow anyone to "touch" his precious son. (That would be the precious son he never saw for the first two years). He hardly ever sees him and then when he does, he encourages him to disobey my husband. And please dont get started about custody, I have tried for years to get full custody and it just wont work. Now I just try not to antagonize him so that he sees my son as little as possible.

Anyway, my son calls my husband dad. And he is a fine upstanding, Christian father. And his solution is to knock the kid on his butt and he has a lot of tough love in mind. But his hands are kind of tied. He tries to be as firm as possible, but its just not that simple or that easy.

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I have a special prayer request, more important then any I have had before. My youngest son is suffering terribly with rebellion and defiance. He wants to be the boss, does not have any respect for me or his father and seems to hate us.

He is failing several subjects in school, and I have tried and tried to talk to him. His brother's took a very difficult path of drugs and drinking and incarceration. My youngest son seems to be following their example except for the drinking and drugs.

He doesnt seem to care about God or what God can do for him. He wont go to church. He just seems so very very angry all the time.

I am so scared of losing this child that I dont know what to do. I pray and I pray and he just gets worse. Please pray for him. Anytime you can think of, just pray.

Thank you so much

Debbie
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. proverbs 29:15

I don't know wether or not he's past the spanking age, but if not an old fashiond whiping might help.
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Your son is in my constant prayers.
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sure lets just beat him into submission. since he has seen drug use/abuse in his family already....?

Tell him you love him everyday, pray he will listen to you...and dont be afraid to set these limits.
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Well just to update you and again urgently request prayer on the rebellious child. First of all, I do not hit my children - ever. I dont mean a hand tap if they go to touch the stove at age two. I do not smack, hit, punch etc my children. I dont believe in that, and I could not do it.

You do not teach a child not to hit by hitting them, just fyi. However, this child has pushed us to the limits of our endurance. He is 13. He claims to be saved but when I question him about what God thinks of his behavior, he just shrugs. He wont pray with me or anything. He throws a fit to get out of church. And his grades are failing and now I have to go to the school and meet with them.

His newest thing is that he is the boss, he does not have to do what I say, and he hates his step-father and wants him dead. Because my husband is the punishment enforcer. When I comment that this is not Christ like behavior, he just says he doesnt care. He hates his step-father and wants him dead. He also hates his father, but he doesnt care if he is dead or not, because he doesnt tell him what to do.

I dont know where to turn. I have prayed and prayed and prayed for this child. I feel like I am losing him and my husband and I fight about him almost every day. Its causing a lot of problems in my marriage. And I am scared for this child. I dont think he is doing drugs YET. But I think he has the right mentality for it.

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Sunshine Debbie, I so sorry that this is going on for all of you. Could your son be battling depression?
Often our kids , as Im sure you know, will act out because they do not know how to handle the way they feel.
Maby an eval by his dr. just to be sure as what is plaging him.
Sometimes you just have to be blunt and fight for their future.
You, your son and family continue to be in my prayers.
Hugs and God bless, pickles
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Well just to update you and again urgently request prayer on the rebellious child. First of all, I do not hit my children - ever. I dont mean a hand tap if they go to touch the stove at age two. I do not smack, hit, punch etc my children. I dont believe in that, and I could not do it.

You do not teach a child not to hit by hitting them, just fyi. However, this child has pushed us to the limits of our endurance. He is 13. He claims to be saved but when I question him about what God thinks of his behavior, he just shrugs. He wont pray with me or anything. He throws a fit to get out of church. And his grades are failing and now I have to go to the school and meet with them.

His newest thing is that he is the boss, he does not have to do what I say, and he hates his step-father and wants him dead. Because my husband is the punishment enforcer. When I comment that this is not Christ like behavior, he just says he doesnt care. He hates his step-father and wants him dead. He also hates his father, but he doesnt care if he is dead or not, because he doesnt tell him what to do.

I dont know where to turn. I have prayed and prayed and prayed for this child. I feel like I am losing him and my husband and I fight about him almost every day. Its causing a lot of problems in my marriage. And I am scared for this child. I dont think he is doing drugs YET. But I think he has the right mentality for it.

Debbie
Well its probably to late to use the rod of correction. But to say that you don't teach a child by spanking him, I believe is basicly calling God a liar, because He talks a lot about the rod of correction. There is a difference between spanking a child and hitting and beating them. But this apostate new age movement can't see it. I got spanked a lot when I was a child and I respect and love my parents for it.
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Sunshine it sounds to me as if your son has demonic influance: an it is not coming from his heart... only the devil will have us to think we hate some one... it is not the flesh but the spirit... I am a warrior of God.. and is blessed from the Lord to see from his eyes. it is not you that he hates, it is the Holy Sprit in you... Dont just pray for him..." FIGHT" for him. you have the power and the athourity, but don't call God's Word a lie: this you have to repent of, that you did not do it how the Lord wanted you to do, and as you see you are getting exactly what he said you would..... but it's not to late... God will set him free and take away your shame.
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Lord God we come to you in the Holy name of Christ Jesus; Father we ask that you help this family: Lord we ask that you forgive them for not doing as you said to do concerning our children; we ask that you make all wrongs; right. Lord we pray that you will go into each life, from the head give him the wisdom, knowledge and understanding, to lead his family you have blessed him with, for Debbie, Lord we pray you also give her the wisdom to build her house and not be foolish women that will pluck it down with her hands.
Lord; open their spiritual eyes and ears that they will see the life and power of your Holy Word and they will hear from you when you speak to them concerning their family... Father we ask that you break every generational curses that is over her, and her children as well as her husband; Lord we know that Christ has taking away the curse of the letter, and no longer shall the children pay for the sins of the father, neither shall they suffer. Lord she is the righteousness in Christ Jesus, and never have it been seen that the righteous be forsakien; neither their seed begging bread, Lord we ask that you deliver her children from the power of the enemy, for they are the seed of the righteous, and her seed shall be blessed to a thousand generations.
Father God, we come together touching and agreeing for all her children, and we claim the victory over their lives, Lord their souls. Lord, we know you have answered this prayer before we even asked you.. and we thank you.. Lord they are not drunks, drug addicts, neither are the the lost and rebelious, Father we speak it, life and salvation to each of them, they shall live and not die, they are saved, sanctified, and filled with your Holy Spirit.. we put all our hope in you Lord that your will be done in their lives, they will say, not my will Lord but thine... Lord, cover them and hedge them in.. cover them in the Blood of Jesus, from the crown of their heads to the souls of their feet, and they will be washed as white as snow... Father, put a wall around them, and hedge them in with thorns as you did to Gomer, Hosea's wife, and for that reason and the same victory you had over her, so shall you have over Debbie's children... they will not find they way in this world, other then the way to you out of this world....
Lord we, take the athourity of Christ Jesus, over this family and her children, for you said that though we walk in the flesh, our war it not with the flesh, therefore, by the power and authority of Christ Jesus, we command the principalities, the rulers of darkness, and all spiritual, wickedness, to go!! from this family... every assignment of the devil that has been given to destroy this family, to destroy her children, we cancel it right now, in the name of Christ Jesus. we command you to loose her son/s, leave her home, let her son go right now in the name of Christ Jesus, the Lord of Glory.. you are a defeated foe, and you have no more rights to her family they belong to the Lord God Almighty! we call you out right now a command everyone to go into the abyss, go to outer darkness, you cannot return.. we command you spirit of division, destruction, death, and hopelessness to loose them, we bind you now, by the power of the Lord Christ Jesus, we bind you spirit of hatred, and rage, from her children,we bimd you spirit of addictions, confusion and delusions, every rebelous spirit, every spirit of lust and covetousness, every disobedient spirit, we bind you and rebuke you in the name of Christ Jesus and we command you to loose her children, take your hands off them, come out from them in the name of Jesus, go now into outer darkness, to the pits of hell and never we command you to return, every foul and inclean spirit, we cast you out and away from them and we command you to take up your weapons and leave their lives alone, leaving nothing behind, and taking nothing that don't belong to you, we command you to restore them in the mind God has created in them... in the Holy and precious name of Christ Jesus.....NOW! RIGHT NOW! GOOO, you must obey...we have power and athority over you all, it has been giving us of God and at the name of Jesus you all must obey.... Lord we ask you to send your chariots of Fire to keep them protected, minds, souls, bodies and spirits of all her family... Father send thy anointing to destroy every yoke that the enemy had on them which had them bound. bring full restoration, and revivle to them... Love, hope, peace and Joy of the Holy Spirit.. let them bare fruit a hundred fold. Lord let them know no lack for eevry area of their lives that is and will always bring you glory and praises. Lord thank you for all you are doing for them,, thank you for bringing deliverance to this family.. thank you for bringing freedom to each of them, as individuals and as a whole.. Father fill them till they are running over with all your promises, Lord thank you for giving your mercy, grace and forgivness, and healing power to them all... Lord you are doing a new thing in them, anoint them to walk in it... tonot turn from it to the left nor the right, but to stay on the path you have chosen and set before them... let your praises continually be in their mouths, now that you have given them a heart of flesh, and have renewed a right Spirit in them... and their bodies will not be used as an instrument to sin, nor will the words of their mouths, or the meditations of their hearts not be exceptable in thy site.... we rejoice, we sing praises to you over all you have done for them... we will speak what we know you done, for we will walk by faith for this family and not by sight,,, for we know you have already done these thing for you have answered our cries for them before we even called you...... HALLELUJAH!! TO OUR FAITHFUL GOD, GLORY TO YOU LORD FOR THIS FAMILY , THE MOTHER, THY DAUGHTER, AND HER HUSBAND YOUR SON, AND ALLLLLL HER CHILDREN, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY; THANK YOU -THEY ARE FREE.... IN THE HOLY NAME OF CHRIST JESUS.. FOR , IT-IS-SO AMEN, AMEN AND AMEN AGAIN.
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Well just to update you and again urgently request prayer on the rebellious child. First of all, I do not hit my children - ever. I dont mean a hand tap if they go to touch the stove at age two. I do not smack, hit, punch etc my children. I dont believe in that, and I could not do it.

You do not teach a child not to hit by hitting them, just fyi. However, this child has pushed us to the limits of our endurance. He is 13. He claims to be saved but when I question him about what God thinks of his behavior, he just shrugs. He wont pray with me or anything. He throws a fit to get out of church. And his grades are failing and now I have to go to the school and meet with them.

His newest thing is that he is the boss, he does not have to do what I say, and he hates his step-father and wants him dead. Because my husband is the punishment enforcer. When I comment that this is not Christ like behavior, he just says he doesnt care. He hates his step-father and wants him dead. He also hates his father, but he doesnt care if he is dead or not, because he doesnt tell him what to do.

I dont know where to turn. I have prayed and prayed and prayed for this child. I feel like I am losing him and my husband and I fight about him almost every day. Its causing a lot of problems in my marriage. And I am scared for this child. I dont think he is doing drugs YET. But I think he has the right mentality for it.

Debbie
Despite what you believe, you have already been given Scripture that shows you what God says. You tell me - who's opinion matters more? God's or yours?

Spank him now while you still can or wait for him to grow up. Then God will spank him and that will be much more painful. You choose.

I was spanked as a child and I still went through God's spanking (and just recently too) but I would say my spiritual spanking was not as hard as it could've been. My parents' spanking helped me remember not to do certain things and I was spanked up until 16. So you decide. Would you rather have God spank him hard mentally, emotionally, and spiritually when the pain will last for years or would you prefer a good physical spanking now when the pain will disappear quite quickly?

Edit: Oh and yes, I will pray for your son.
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Sister Debbie,

Know I am praying, having six kids myself, 4 of which are past that age, I can fully undrestand your frustration and worry. Ages 12-14 are very hard on kids, between constant peer preasure and body changes it gets overwelming to say the least for them, One minute they act 40 the next 7 again. My oldest who just turned 27 called the other day and said, "Momma, I really was a stuborn hard headed kid, I have truely come to realize that and I had to call you." I was not his birth momma but raised him sence he was 4yrs old. He now has children of his own and realizing just how much he has been loved all his life. Your young man knows he is loved by both you and your husband try not to take the 'insults' personaly. You and your husband are his safe place to 'vent'. I have found that when harsh words and tension rises is never a time to 're-act' just silently pray for God's peace. This to shall pass. You and your husband are awsome parents, May you stay strong in His word and in His Grace. Always remember, a child needs a hug the most when we 'feel' they least deserve it. Praying for you and yours today,

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I wrote it down in my prayer requests book.

Father God we lift up Sunshine son to you in the name of Jesus we rebuke and bind the spirit of anger in Jesus name, Speak to Debbie's heart and let her know you are wit her. she is not alone as long as she's with you. Give her the paientce and the wisdom Lord.

Help her not to be so frusrated and not to hurt, help her son Lord in Jesus name. Lord Jesus visit with her son and have talk in his dreams in Jesus name. We bind and rebuke resistance in the name of Jesus,

Amen

I hope things get better God be with you sister in Christ
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I touch and agree with all the prayers for you , your son and your family; fear not be encourage, for the Lord will fight for you, he has giving you his powers and his athourity, and your family is victorious... Amen
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