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heydrewbert

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Been suffering with panic attacks, anxiety and depression for a year now... some symptoms have gotten better or disappeared while i have gotten worse in some areas. I have been trying very hard to turn over area of my life to the lord. To try and build my faith and discern between head knowledge and heart knowledge. I have a wife and daughter and am the sole incomd provider. Im so drained and i feel like im infecting my family and bringing them down because im just not the same person i was before all this started. Not sure where to fo from here. I wish my church was more enthusiastic about healing. Nobody ever wants to talk about it.
 

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Father God, let you completely heal heydrewbert. Yes Lord let all these sickness be gone, and his faith keep increasing and glorifying you. Bless his wife and daughter. Lord fill his church with Holy Spirit. Yes please hear and answer, in Jesus name, Amen!
 

Roughsoul1991

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Been suffering with panic attacks, anxiety and depression for a year now... some symptoms have gotten better or disappeared while i have gotten worse in some areas. I have been trying very hard to turn over area of my life to the lord. To try and build my faith and discern between head knowledge and heart knowledge. I have a wife and daughter and am the sole incomd provider. Im so drained and i feel like im infecting my family and bringing them down because im just not the same person i was before all this started. Not sure where to fo from here. I wish my church was more enthusiastic about healing. Nobody ever wants to talk about it.
I suffer from the same thing and I know it is not easy. My panic attacks get bad and to the point my body will shut off the blood supply to my brain and I pass out. It's scary to me and when I wake up my mind feels like I am in a fog for a few days. Therapy helped me to some degree. But you honor God every time you trust in God to help you. No matter if you fail or overcome. You still gave that trust to him and went and faced your fear. There is so much psychology behind what's going on so if you have not already then I would start reading about the causes of these issues. Since you may also need meds to help regulate them.
 
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heydrewbert

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Greeeaaat.. that is one of my fears with panic attacks is that i will pass out. It hasnt happened yet but i worry every time. I went to a therapist 3 tines but it was too expensive and they couldnt get the scheduling to work out with my jobs hours. I took some anti anxiety med called buspirone for a while. A very weak pill and lowest dose and it made me very dizzy. Ive always had a low tolerance for meds. Scared to try the real stuff. Also, a lot of what ive read says that the meds hurt you inthe long run. And that if you can just hold out and learn to deal that eventually your anxiety will resolve itself.
 
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Hang in there brother,I suffered from anxiety and panic attacks for a year,until I noticed the anti anxiety meds was affecting my health,so my psychiatrist changed it to a different one which my insurance didn't cover,&since it was too expensive,I prayed &tried going without it. IT HAS NOW BEEN ALOST A YEAR WITHOUT THE ANTI ANXIETY MEDS,AND I AM SYMPTOM FREE!!#,NO MORE ANXIETY,NOR PANIC ATTACKS!!!,THE LORD HEALED ME!!,IF HE DID IT FOR ME,HE CAN DO IT FOR YOU,JUST BELIEVE, AND BE HEALED ON JESUS'MIGHTY NAME!!!#
 

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heydrewbert .... Some encouragement for you in the Lord...Mathew 11:28-30 (Rest for the Weary)
28Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.…
Jesus promises to give rest to the weary for all who come to him. The Lord would say to you "Peace be Still" There is incredible healing that happens within our soul & spirit when we come before the Lord, & just "be still" & allow the Lord to wash over your spirit with His Love & Peace. I know there is so much inner strength & healing that comes when we allow ourselves to fellowship with the Lord in your "quiet place" In the Lord, He will quiet you with His Love (Zephaniah 3:17) The LORD your God in the midst of you is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over you with joy; He will quiet you with his love, He will rejoice over you with singing. I want to encourage you to find a "quiet place" daily where you can spend time with the Lord, & simply "be still" let His Love wash over you. Begin reading maybe in Psalms & the new testament. Healing will come, strength will come, & peace will begin to take residence in you.
Years ago, I went through a season of having panic attacks, and feeling tired & drained from life. I had received prayer from my church & through prayer groups. I was ministered these same words that I have shared with you. I know how present the Lord is within us, when we allow ourselves to simply "be still" before Him, and begin allowing the holy spirit to lead us into the word & having fellowship with the Lord. He loves You & He is there for you, to lead to a healthy place...
 

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Just wanted to mention also, that the Lord knows how to bring balance to your life as well. Being overworked can easily begin taking a toll ones body, mind etc...From reading your post, I can see that you are physically tired as well, which can lead to depression & all of the above. The Lord knows the deepest longings of your heart. Your feeling weighed down by the pressures of life & all its demands. Well the good news is...Jesus knows exactly what you have been dealing with & He has already provided a path of healing on all levels for your life. Trust in His leading. He knows the way! Here's a song of encouragement for you.. "Good Fight" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0M3X3_pFD4
 

Roughsoul1991

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Greeeaaat.. that is one of my fears with panic attacks is that i will pass out. It hasnt happened yet but i worry every time. I went to a therapist 3 tines but it was too expensive and they couldnt get the scheduling to work out with my jobs hours. I took some anti anxiety med called buspirone for a while. A very weak pill and lowest dose and it made me very dizzy. Ive always had a low tolerance for meds. Scared to try the real stuff. Also, a lot of what ive read says that the meds hurt you inthe long run. And that if you can just hold out and learn to deal that eventually your anxiety will resolve itself.
Yah I dont do well with meds either so I stay off them too. And a therapist in my opinion only does good with finding a past psychological problem and then find good coping methods. Other than that its up to you to face the problems. I always feel better when I let someone know I am having anxiety and sometimes have panic attacks. And it's a lot easier to explain to them first than afterwards when I pass out and the people are freaking out. Obviously do all you can to make things easy and anxiety free. Many times just having a friend or my wife with me calms me down. See I do not like doctors offices and as soon as I have to go to one my anxiety kicks in and then once I am there I am doing all I can to not panic. Which actually makes it worse because while I am trying to be normal my mind is in chaos. And finally if I do not cope with it I turn pale white, get nauseated, and shut down and collapse. I have collapsed and hit tables, walls, floors, people lol but I have found coping methods that help me by excepted my problem and I no longer hide it and I let it know it no longer controls me.
 
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heydrewbert

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Yah I dont do well with meds either so I stay off them too. And a therapist in my opinion only does good with finding a past psychological problem and then find good coping methods. Other than that its up to you to face the problems. I always feel better when I let someone know I am having anxiety and sometimes have panic attacks. And it's a lot easier to explain to them first than afterwards when I pass out and the people are freaking out. Obviously do all you can to make things easy and anxiety free. Many times just having a friend or my wife with me calms me down. See I do not like doctors offices and as soon as I have to go to one my anxiety kicks in and then once I am there I am doing all I can to not panic. Which actually makes it worse because while I am trying to be normal my mind is in chaos. And finally if I do not cope with it I turn pale white, get nauseated, and shut down and collapse. I have collapsed and hit tables, walls, floors, people lol but I have found coping methods that help me by excepted my problem and I no longer hide it and I let it know it no longer controls me.
How do you deal with this from day to day? I mean, all this started for me at the same time I had just decided to get serious with my relationship with Christ. In a way, all this that me and my wife have gone through has definitely brought me closer to God and he really is my only hope right now. The only one i can rely on.. at the same time, i get mad. I wonder how could he let this happen to me. I believe only good things come from God and that he will see us through our circumstances and that he works all things together for good. All this knowledge and faith isnt enough sometimes and i doubt and i wonder how long will i be able to hold on like this? How long will i be able to provide for my family before i lt overtakes me? How can we live with the thought that maybe our healing wont come?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Will pray.

Is there any chance your wife can pitch in a bit? Even if it was a small, part- time thing I guess it would lift the burden a bit knowing there was some other income.

Do you have an "outlet" other than work? (Exercise, art, music ?) I think it helps to have something to pour one's restless energy into.
 
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heydrewbert

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Will pray.

Is there any chance your wife can pitch in a bit? Even if it was a small, part- time thing I guess it would lift the burden a bit knowing there was some other income.

Do you have an "outlet" other than work? (Exercise, art, music ?) I think it helps to have something to pour one's restless energy into.
Eh, My wife just does not understand what is happening to me and what i need from her to help. She stays home and watches our baby cause we haven't really wanted to put her in day care.

i do exercise when i can. I agree, i need something of interest to invest my energy into. Being jacked up on nicotine all the time kept me calm and like a zombie. When i quit i realized how much time and talent I'd wasted that I can't get back and I've been trying ro find purpose again since that realization.
 

Roughsoul1991

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How do you deal with this from day to day? I mean, all this started for me at the same time I had just decided to get serious with my relationship with Christ. In a way, all this that me and my wife have gone through has definitely brought me closer to God and he really is my only hope right now. The only one i can rely on.. at the same time, i get mad. I wonder how could he let this happen to me. I believe only good things come from God and that he will see us through our circumstances and that he works all things together for good. All this knowledge and faith isnt enough sometimes and i doubt and i wonder how long will i be able to hold on like this? How long will i be able to provide for my family before i lt overtakes me? How can we live with the thought that maybe our healing wont come?
Brother I wish I had a easy answer but my panic attacks started 7 years ago and at first I thought I was dying until I gained knowledge on my mental health. We have a blessing and a curse. We think a lot!!! And usually very deep thinkers. But because of this we also think way too much about certain things. Creating a unhealthy habit. Our subconscious saves this information from our worry state of mind and then when we face the actual event. Our subconscious acrivates these false feelings and our conscious makes them seem real. The more knowledge you know about your mind and anxiety the more control you have. I read a book called voice of knowledge that changed my way of thinking. It helped me question all the lies my subconscious programmed me to believe. Once Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge we opened the door to the master of lies. The Devil is at work in you trying to separate you from God. Especially Christians he will lie and tempt us to believe or do what the flesh already wants. We are weak in the flesh. The Devil knows this and will constantly tell you lies as you worry. Which then by God's design our brains store this info in to memory vaults as a defense mechanism to protect the body. So once you have to face a anxious problem your body freaks out with these stored lies which sends signals to your brain to activate the fight or flight response. And since we would look not normal to fight or run away we try to control it. Controlling it is like putting mentoes mints into diet soda. Them chemicals released in the brain activating a response that should never be ignored. Once ignored your body can not keep going like that and tries to shut down creating a panic attack. Making all sorts of nasty feelings and with me my body completely shuts down a few seconds.

Deep breathing always helps. I have to usually lay down and raise my feet above my head, making blood flow back into my head and my skin color comes back, and a few seconds later I feel better. Having support from friends or family helps me too usually people who are positive. And of course learning all you can is your best weapon.

God does not tempt us or cause these issues. Us falling from the garden of Eden opened the door to sickness, and decay of life. It opened the door to a battle within the mind to believe the lies of evil or focus on the truth of God. Sometimes God does not take away the things we deal with. I have prayed my heart out in search of relief from God. But I was thinking relief would take it away. My actual relief cane from knowing God is always with me and my protector. My strength and shield. The battle that rages in my mind has been the hardest thing I have ever dealt with. Not only it affects me physically but tears me up mentally. I have good times and bad times with controlling it. But the more you face your anxiety the easier it gets to control. But because mine deals with medical issues I do not get to face mine enough. Never stop praying and remember just like my testimony, your testimony may help someone one day understand or bring a little hope. Point your hope back to God and you will find great joy in sharing the joy God gave you through the anxious moments in life. One day your story may bring the hope and Savior someone needed to hear that experiences anxiety and panic attacks.
 
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heydrewbert

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Brother I wish I had a easy answer but my panic attacks started 7 years ago and at first I thought I was dying until I gained knowledge on my mental health. We have a blessing and a curse. We think a lot!!! And usually very deep thinkers. But because of this we also think way too much about certain things. Creating a unhealthy habit. Our subconscious saves this information from our worry state of mind and then when we face the actual event. Our subconscious acrivates these false feelings and our conscious makes them seem real. The more knowledge you know about your mind and anxiety the more control you have. I read a book called voice of knowledge that changed my way of thinking. It helped me question all the lies my subconscious programmed me to believe. Once Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge we opened the door to the master of lies. The Devil is at work in you trying to separate you from God. Especially Christians he will lie and tempt us to believe or do what the flesh already wants. We are weak in the flesh. The Devil knows this and will constantly tell you lies as you worry. Which then by God's design our brains store this info in to memory vaults as a defense mechanism to protect the body. So once you have to face a anxious problem your body freaks out with these stored lies which sends signals to your brain to activate the fight or flight response. And since we would look not normal to fight or run away we try to control it. Controlling it is like putting mentoes mints into diet soda. Them chemicals released in the brain activating a response that should never be ignored. Once ignored your body can not keep going like that and tries to shut down creating a panic attack. Making all sorts of nasty feelings and with me my body completely shuts down a few seconds.

Deep breathing always helps. I have to usually lay down and raise my feet above my head, making blood flow back into my head and my skin color comes back, and a few seconds later I feel better. Having support from friends or family helps me too usually people who are positive. And of course learning all you can is your best weapon.

God does not tempt us or cause these issues. Us falling from the garden of Eden opened the door to sickness, and decay of life. It opened the door to a battle within the mind to believe the lies of evil or focus on the truth of God. Sometimes God does not take away the things we deal with. I have prayed my heart out in search of relief from God. But I was thinking relief would take it away. My actual relief cane from knowing God is always with me and my protector. My strength and shield. The battle that rages in my mind has been the hardest thing I have ever dealt with. Not only it affects me physically but tears me up mentally. I have good times and bad times with controlling it. But the more you face your anxiety the easier it gets to control. But because mine deals with medical issues I do not get to face mine enough. Never stop praying and remember just like my testimony, your testimony may help someone one day understand or bring a little hope. Point your hope back to God and you will find great joy in sharing the joy God gave you through the anxious moments in life. One day your story may bring the hope and Savior someone needed to hear that experiences anxiety and panic attacks.
Yeah. Ive always been a very deep thinker as well. When i look back at my behaviors, thought process and general out look on life not to mention my addictions, im very suprised i did not start having attacks sooner. When you thinj back did you have a similar situation? Like you were building up to it or was it out of the blue?

Man, im so sorry to hear that you've dealt with this so long and ita been so severe. Mine gets severe with physical symptoms and mental struggles but ive never passed out yet so i will be thanking the lord dor that. Ive passed out some in the past, its not fun i know that.

one of the positives that came from this is i am seeking and relying on God more then i ever have. Ive learned compassion for people that ive never had compassion for. I want to help people now and not just keep christianity to myself but to share good news but now i struggle with how do you share the news of a good God who loves, saves and heals when you yourself are just trying to make it.

funny that you're a GA boy i see. Im from Albany, Ga.
 
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heydrewbert

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Also, if you haven't already there is a site called panicend.com and they have a book called the panic switch. Ive read it and employes its tactics with success with relapses. Its a long process and many people on the forums say they have over come their panic attacks and anxiety with the method of " floating " or nit trying to fight the anxiety. Many of them say the path to healing is bad and worse and back to bad until one day it just clicks and youre out.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Yeah. Ive always been a very deep thinker as well. When i look back at my behaviors, thought process and general out look on life not to mention my addictions, im very suprised i did not start having attacks sooner. When you thinj back did you have a similar situation? Like you were building up to it or was it out of the blue?

Man, im so sorry to hear that you've dealt with this so long and ita been so severe. Mine gets severe with physical symptoms and mental struggles but ive never passed out yet so i will be thanking the lord dor that. Ive passed out some in the past, its not fun i know that.

one of the positives that came from this is i am seeking and relying on God more then i ever have. Ive learned compassion for people that ive never had compassion for. I want to help people now and not just keep christianity to myself but to share good news but now i struggle with how do you share the news of a good God who loves, saves and heals when you yourself are just trying to make it.

funny that you're a GA boy i see. Im from Albany, Ga.
My situation I thought happened out the blue except I reexamined my past once I learned what to look for. Once I learned more about anxiety I slowly began to remember moments in my childhood when I had anxiety/ panic type moments but no one took notice. I had even forgot they had happened. So even since childhood I was having warning signs where possibly if I would have got therapy as a child then maybe I wouldn't be this bad now.

Funny you mention your anxiety makes you rely on God more. Well mine is what ultimately led me a true relationship with Christ. Like I said I was given a book called the voice of knowledge by my therapist. This book taught me to question everything I have ever known and replace it with the true foundation of Gods Word. And so this led me to read the whole Bible which created such a thirst for God. This was 2 years ago and ever since then my knowledge for God has grown like a wild fire. I am now currently feeling called by God. And you are defiantly right about having compassion for people seen in a new light. Some one who fears spiders I use to laugh at. But now I realize that spider in their mind is a true danger to them. The very fear that person has is very real in that person's mind. And of course we must always share the gospel to all who will listen. Yes we do not have to pretend to be alright but we must remember this world is temporary and we must do all we can to bring God glory. Even if we are the ones needing help. God will send the help, but we must remain faithful and trusting. Not saying this is easy but this is what I try to live by.

I work in Albany but do not live in Albany small world lol


Also I have never seen the site called panicend.com but I do believe it is a long process but I am still waiting on the day for it to just fade away :rolleyes:
 

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We as believers remain in the body of Christ. Because of this believers should support each other and never let a follower feel alone. We must work together as one, through the same word and truth of God.
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heydrewbert

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Man, that is so similar to my story. It took months but i kept thinking back and slowly i started remembering all these situations, how i was nervous all the time and how i let feeling uncomfortable effect my decisions. How i would avoid a lot of things. I even realized my first panic attacks was when i tried smoking weed and the again when i got drunk once in my teens. Which is interesting because because i remember feeling guilty while doing those things and i think a large part of my anxiety is related to some guilt that ive been holding on to for a long time.

i'll have to get that book. I missed the part where you said it was christian based. I looked for something like that for a while. Panic end and the panic switch have helped me in the fact that i have realized that if i face my fears and continue to do things that make me panic, eventually the anxiety lessens. I used to only be able to drive about 15 seconds before i started having panic or anxiety. Now i dont get it at all.

Thats whats driving me crazy. We can try and beat it but ultimately i feel we are just waiting.

One main thing im trying to do is change my thoughts. Its very hard at my job to stay positive but im trying to thank God for everything that i have instead of what i dont have or what i wish would change.

it is a small world then! Well, technically i live in Leesburg. Well, if you ever need someone to talk to im not too far away, haha.
 

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Man, that is so similar to my story. It took months but i kept thinking back and slowly i started remembering all these situations, how i was nervous all the time and how i let feeling uncomfortable effect my decisions. How i would avoid a lot of things. I even realized my first panic attacks was when i tried smoking weed and the again when i got drunk once in my teens. Which is interesting because because i remember feeling guilty while doing those things and i think a large part of my anxiety is related to some guilt that ive been holding on to for a long time.

i'll have to get that book. I missed the part where you said it was christian based. I looked for something like that for a while. Panic end and the panic switch have helped me in the fact that i have realized that if i face my fears and continue to do things that make me panic, eventually the anxiety lessens. I used to only be able to drive about 15 seconds before i started having panic or anxiety. Now i dont get it at all.

Thats whats driving me crazy. We can try and beat it but ultimately i feel we are just waiting.

One main thing im trying to do is change my thoughts. Its very hard at my job to stay positive but im trying to thank God for everything that i have instead of what i dont have or what i wish would change.

it is a small world then! Well, technically i live in Leesburg. Well, if you ever need someone to talk to im not too far away, haha.
You know one time I read that everybody's body acts differently to THC the psychoactive part of cannabis. I have no idea if it is true but once the THC gets into your system some people can not handle it, do to the fact their body has a reaction to it. I can relate though because God taught me a hard lesson when I was in high school. My friend back then invited me to a party at his house. I also tried weed the first time and I felt so bad in Gods eyes. And if that wasn't enough I drank alcohol way past the limit. That night left me sick for a week, a bruised and bloody cut throat where I ran into a clothes line, and almost got arrested. So in way God taught me a lesson that has affected my life by allowing me to not even care to drink or do drugs. I do not like being out of control.

The book has Christian beliefs but I would not fully label it as a Christian faith book. It is more of a self-help book. The author is very wise but some chapters near the beginning is really deep thinking and really should just be left at interpretation. So just read it with Gods word in mind but mostly take the concept of the book away from it.

Yah anxiety to me is like a shadow. It's always there waiting until the day when I lose the control and find myself facing the fact I a weak and will always need God. Sometimes God may be trying to lead us in a new direction when our mind and body is affected by our choices. But we easily ignore God to follow human desires. If your job is unhealthy for you mentally well it may be best to start searching for something better for your personality. And changing our thoughts to rely on God in all things will fight off anxiety more than anything. Many time I get anxious I can help it go away by praying to God these exact words. God I can not do this on my own for I am weak, take my worries in to your hands. I give them to you because you are my protector and nothing is bigger than you.

This prayer brings me to peace knowing God has my cares and worries. Knowing God is bigger and greater than anything on earth and space, it brings my little worries down to earth and allows me to look at them as pointless nonsince. Because most of my worries are only ifs and buts. Most of my worries are things I can not change especially by worrying.

Well, if you ever need someone to talk to im not too far away, haha.
Yah man of course, the same to you and thank you! Small world lol
 
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heydrewbert

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Man, i posted a huge reply to this but i see it didnt go through. Great, haha.

Weed and panic attacks go hand in hand. Especially with long time smokers. When they stop they go through PAWS [ post acute withdrawal syndrome ]. Panic attacks and anxiety are a huge part od that. I believei had acute and post acute withdrawal when i quit porn, dip, caffeine and sugar on the same day. The doctor said it wasnt suprising i had a panic attack from quiting all that at the same time. They have forums dedicated to paws. Its very common.

I struggle with the that thought process. Because i basically poures my heart out to God to change me to be a better husband and father and repented of my addictions and disobedience and the next day i startes having panic attacks. I dont believe in trials. Even though they are talked about. I believe life happens and God sees us through.
 

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Man, i posted a huge reply to this but i see it didnt go through. Great, haha.

Weed and panic attacks go hand in hand. Especially with long time smokers. When they stop they go through PAWS [ post acute withdrawal syndrome ]. Panic attacks and anxiety are a huge part od that. I believei had acute and post acute withdrawal when i quit porn, dip, caffeine and sugar on the same day. The doctor said it wasnt suprising i had a panic attack from quiting all that at the same time. They have forums dedicated to paws. Its very common.

I struggle with the that thought process. Because i basically poures my heart out to God to change me to be a better husband and father and repented of my addictions and disobedience and the next day i startes having panic attacks. I dont believe in trials. Even though they are talked about. I believe life happens and God sees us through.
We know for a fact Christians will be faced with trials because the new testament speaks about us facing trials that once endured will create discipline. But a trial is different than consequences. All of life's sin has consequences as the Bible would say you shall reap what you sow. So sin comes with baggage and many times the sinner had to carry this baggage until one day it gets too heavy and they are in too deep but only then realizing their is a problem. But you are also right about life. Life will play it's course and can shorten the time God gave us to live. But this does not mean that God will not intervene and heal. Life on earth is only vapor and will quickly fade. God knows this and God has a goal for all believers. The goal is to eventually be with him in Heaven. Not necessarily live long on earth but to live with him in Heaven. So God may give someone 105 days to live but habits like smoking and drinking can decrease the amount of time we had.

For example because I was driving to my then girlfriends house but now my wife. I was in a hurry and stopped at a stop sign. A utility truck was on the corner making it real hard to see so I was impatient and went way too fast to try and ease around the truck to see if it was safe. But at that moment a SUV slammed into my front left side panel by the engine. I have been dealing with back pain ever since. So yes life definitely affects our life. The life of a Christian we must distinguish between consequences of sin, trials, and life. Once we do this we are better equipped with how to apply Gods word.