A job (again)

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wwjd_kilden

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So.... prayer request update, sort of

The "job" I'm currently in is only out this year.

I've applied for the position (basically the job I am currently doing temporarily), only problem is, there are 95 other applicants. ... and the ad listen skills I don't have (education in secretary stuff-thingy - stuff).

so.... it seems unlikely I will get to stay next year.

Which means I could use some more prayers for a job. I don't really care what kind of job as long as I have nice colleagues and know I am being useful / appreciated :)
 

tourist

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I understand full well what you have been going through. Special prayer has been said for God to provide you with suitable employment including the people you will be working with. Work is hard enough but even more so if you work people that try to make you feel miserable.
 

Pilkington

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I am praying that God will open the door to the right job for you. Even though there are 95 applicants for the job if God wants you there it will happen.
 
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Listening skills isn't "secretary stuff." (Typing fast is secretary stuff. Other office work is "office management" stuff.) It's more sales-pitch/customer service stuff. And, don't worry so much. They teach that on the first day. They really don't expect people to have the skills for their particular business. They just want to know if you have enough common sense to pull it off.

Four examples:
I worked in the maintenance department of an apartment management company. A resident calls and says, "I have no heat." My job wasn't to panic and think their heater was broken. My job was to make sure they didn't do something dumb, before sending out a maintenance guy. I had to, (oh so politely), ask them if they accidentally tripped over the plug for the heater unit; i.e. "Is it plugged in?" Next was "Did you have any guest over who might have, unknowingly, turned down the heater?" They had to check for those two don't-need-a-maintenance-guy possibilities, and, if it was neither of those, I'd send one of the guys. Common sense. Not hard.

Another example was, as a bookkeeper, I sometimes had to call sales reps if their commission check wasn't cashed in the last six months. Did they ever receive it? Do they remember putting it in the bank? Common sense, before assuming the money I think is sitting in our account is really sitting in their account.

On a Helpline, I had to make sure the person really wanted THIS county office. I mean, lots of them called and didn't live in that county, so I had to make sure which county they were in, or me giving phone numbers that didn't help them just irritated them.

Have you ever had to do that for any company you've ever worked with? Have you ever done customer service or phone sales? If so, make sure that company knows it, because that tells them you have common sense and can learn. You'd be surprised how many don't have that skill. Having it puts you at the top of the herd, but you have to make sure you tell them that kind of experience. Any kind of phone experience where you had to help a customer/client by asking for more info works.

Yeah, 95 others. That's really not that many. I had to keep applications from anyone who handed them in to us. BUT the ones worth the bosses looking at were given to the bosses quickly. I worked for that company for nine years. I must have filed a thousand apps. Only two or three were ever seen by bosses. Learn the company, think of what you've done before -- for work or as a volunteer, since both count equally -- and make sure they know what skills you have that benefit them.

BTW, one other thing I did for a living -- wrote resumes that got people hired. I had to learn from the customers what they did for work and as a volunteer that clued the type of businesses they were applying for, that this was a good candidate, so I do know what gets people hired, doing the same thing.

Lord, it's easy to forget you're in charge of all aspects of our lives. Work in Kilden's mind to loosen up all she could use for you to get him this job. And, if this isn't the right job, make really big signs so she sees you telling her, "Over here instead." Amen.
 

levi85

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Lord bless wwjd_kilden with a job, yes Lord bless her hearts desire.prepare her and bless with a suitable job. In Jesus name, Amen!
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Listening skills isn't "secretary stuff." (Typing fast is secretary stuff. Other office work is "office management" stuff.) It's more sales-pitch/customer service stuff. And, don't worry so much. They teach that on the first day. They really don't expect people to have the skills for their particular business. They just want to know if you have enough common sense to pull it off.

Four examples:
I worked in the maintenance department of an apartment management company. A resident calls and says, "I have no heat." My job wasn't to panic and think their heater was broken. My job was to make sure they didn't do something dumb, before sending out a maintenance guy. I had to, (oh so politely), ask them if they accidentally tripped over the plug for the heater unit; i.e. "Is it plugged in?" Next was "Did you have any guest over who might have, unknowingly, turned down the heater?" They had to check for those two don't-need-a-maintenance-guy possibilities, and, if it was neither of those, I'd send one of the guys. Common sense. Not hard.

Another example was, as a bookkeeper, I sometimes had to call sales reps if their commission check wasn't cashed in the last six months. Did they ever receive it? Do they remember putting it in the bank? Common sense, before assuming the money I think is sitting in our account is really sitting in their account.

On a Helpline, I had to make sure the person really wanted THIS county office. I mean, lots of them called and didn't live in that county, so I had to make sure which county they were in, or me giving phone numbers that didn't help them just irritated them.

Have you ever had to do that for any company you've ever worked with? Have you ever done customer service or phone sales? If so, make sure that company knows it, because that tells them you have common sense and can learn. You'd be surprised how many don't have that skill. Having it puts you at the top of the herd, but you have to make sure you tell them that kind of experience. Any kind of phone experience where you had to help a customer/client by asking for more info works.

Yeah, 95 others. That's really not that many. I had to keep applications from anyone who handed them in to us. BUT the ones worth the bosses looking at were given to the bosses quickly. I worked for that company for nine years. I must have filed a thousand apps. Only two or three were ever seen by bosses. Learn the company, think of what you've done before -- for work or as a volunteer, since both count equally -- and make sure they know what skills you have that benefit them.

BTW, one other thing I did for a living -- wrote resumes that got people hired. I had to learn from the customers what they did for work and as a volunteer that clued the type of businesses they were applying for, that this was a good candidate, so I do know what gets people hired, doing the same thing.

Lord, it's easy to forget you're in charge of all aspects of our lives. Work in Kilden's mind to loosen up all she could use for you to get him this job. And, if this isn't the right job, make really big signs so she sees you telling her, "Over here instead." Amen.

Well, I already do know this company, as I work there. I pointed that out in the application. :)

... but I know that several of the applicants have more relevant education , plus relevant work experience (I know because I scanned some of their papers, and it's sort of hard to miss long lists of stuff :p ) Besides, I currently "work" getting paid by the work agency rather than the workplace, so if they are sneaky, they will tell the agency they want me to stay, but cannot pay me. (Which means they get another worker for free and I get a lower salary :p )

In general when I apply I try to read a bit about the company and see what they do, especially if I write open applications. It's just that so far, for the x nr of applications where I got a more lengthy reply, they said I didn't have enough experience (or that my programming knowledge wasn't good enough.) problem with the latter is that the actual IT people I've talked to tell me there are so many people fighting for the jobs, and the skills outdate so fast, it probably won't be worth the money to go back to school

oh,
thanks for the prayers :)
 

blue_ladybug

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Lord, please send Kilden the perfect job that you have for her.. In Jesus' name, amen.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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*bump*

So, I've applied for a place at Microsoft University. A place there would mean officially being hired by a Microsoft partner, receiving training and then starting to work for that partner, being paid from the start. So far I've only had a "get-to-know-you" interview, and it could take anything from days to months before I get to know if I get further in the process (interview round nr 2),

I am also having a talk with the people at the "social services / job / too-many-governmental-functions-in-one-place place about a "job" with the specific aim of training people in useful skills (rather than just "here is a no-brainer job, go do it"), but I don't know yet exactly what it will involve. (or even know for sure if I will be admitted to the program.

So yea, I would appreciate continued prayers that I will end up having a (nice) job to go to next year, somewhere where I can feel useful, rather than feeling I am just there to keep me out of someone's way :p
 
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Galatea

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Praying that you will get a job where you feel useful and one you will enjoy. Praying that God keeps you in the center of His peace during this stressful time. May God put you in the best place for you and for others.