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    I've been trying to be inquisitive about God but I keep feeling like it's empty learning. I have been thinking that if I come to a logical understanding of God I can be at peace. Before, I thought getting some sort of a high off something would bring peace. Then I thought alcohol would bring peace. Now I've been thinking that organizing my life and learning would bring peace. But no matter how low I get or self-satisfied/prideful I get I don't have peace. Feeling a bit depressed about it so pray that I don't get super low and I'm able to get right with God. Also the I still have bit of a problem with wanting alcohol. I don't think it's good for me emotionally so pray that I can stop that. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by umzza View Post
    I've been trying to be inquisitive about God but I keep feeling like it's empty learning. I have been thinking that if I come to a logical understanding of God I can be at peace. Before, I thought getting some sort of a high off something would bring peace. Then I thought alcohol would bring peace. Now I've been thinking that organizing my life and learning would bring peace. But no matter how low I get or self-satisfied/prideful I get I don't have peace. Feeling a bit depressed about it so pray that I don't get super low and I'm able to get right with God. Also the I still have bit of a problem with wanting alcohol. I don't think it's good for me emotionally so pray that I can stop that. Thanks
    I've been trying to be inquisitive about God but I keep feeling like it's empty learning. What sort of things have you been learning that makes it seem so empty?

    I have been thinking that if I come to a logical understanding of God I can be at peace. Been a Christian since 1993. I'm always going to be learning about God. I am a logical person, but God is beyond logic. Finite beings just can't totally grasp the infinite. Perhaps sorta like we can't comprehend the size of the universe.

    Before, I thought getting some sort of a high off something would bring peace. Then I thought alcohol would bring peace. The world will bring us temporary joy and fulfillment. It's the Creator being inside that brings the ultimate and steady peace/comfort/joy.

    Feeling a bit depressed about it so pray that I don't get super low and I'm able to get right with God. Also the I still have bit of a problem with wanting alcohol. I don't think it's good for me emotionally so pray that I can stop that. Thanks Have you invited Him to be both in you and your life?
    Often neglected verses on tithing: "‘If, therefore, a man wishes to redeem part of his tithe, he shall add to it one-fifth of it. ‘For every tenth part of herd or flock, whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the LORD. ‘He is not to be concerned whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; or if he does exchange it, then both it and its substitute shall become holy. It shall not be redeemed.’” -Lev 27:32-33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test_F_i_2_Luv View Post
    I've been trying to be inquisitive about God but I keep feeling like it's empty learning. What sort of things have you been learning that makes it seem so empty?

    I have been thinking that if I come to a logical understanding of God I can be at peace. Been a Christian since 1993. I'm always going to be learning about God. I am a logical person, but God is beyond logic. Finite beings just can't totally grasp the infinite. Perhaps sorta like we can't comprehend the size of the universe.

    Before, I thought getting some sort of a high off something would bring peace. Then I thought alcohol would bring peace. The world will bring us temporary joy and fulfillment. It's the Creator being inside that brings the ultimate and steady peace/comfort/joy.

    Feeling a bit depressed about it so pray that I don't get super low and I'm able to get right with God. Also the I still have bit of a problem with wanting alcohol. I don't think it's good for me emotionally so pray that I can stop that. Thanks Have you invited Him to be both in you and your life?
    Learning alot of different things. And yes I did ask God to save me but me and other people have questioned if it was true salvation.

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    Keep fellowshipping with the Lord---- peace will come---- stay away from stuff which will hurt you---- I use to drink a ton every day---- break from it---- find friends who will keep you on track...
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    Lord let you stop the drinking habit and bless with your peace and understanding. Please bless Umzza. In Jesus Holy name, Amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by umzza View Post
    Learning alot of different things. And yes I did ask God to save me but me and other people have questioned if it was true salvation.
    I don't know how many times I reprayed the "Sinner's Prayer", questioning the whole process of being forgiven and being given the gift of eternal life.

    In reality, it's an ongoing process. As we grow, we learn more about our failures and weaknesses, and find that we still have to repent, ask for forgiveness, and continue in our growth. Even as Children of God, we mess up.

    When we feel distant from God, it may well be because we've neglected our walk with God...wandered off, decided to do things our way instead of His way.

    If you're serious about finding peace with God, I'd encourage you to watch this short(under 9 minutes qualifies as short, doesn't it?) video with Billy Graham. He's well respected by a good chunk of the Christian community.



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    Often neglected verses on tithing: "‘If, therefore, a man wishes to redeem part of his tithe, he shall add to it one-fifth of it. ‘For every tenth part of herd or flock, whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the LORD. ‘He is not to be concerned whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; or if he does exchange it, then both it and its substitute shall become holy. It shall not be redeemed.’” -Lev 27:32-33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umzza View Post
    I've been trying to be inquisitive about God but I keep feeling like it's empty learning. I have been thinking that if I come to a logical understanding of God I can be at peace. Before, I thought getting some sort of a high off something would bring peace. Then I thought alcohol would bring peace. Now I've been thinking that organizing my life and learning would bring peace. But no matter how low I get or self-satisfied/prideful I get I don't have peace. Feeling a bit depressed about it so pray that I don't get super low and I'm able to get right with God. Also the I still have bit of a problem with wanting alcohol. I don't think it's good for me emotionally so pray that I can stop that. Thanks
    It sounds like you've given this a lot of thought. I'll give you credit, because when I was your age, I was pretty irresponsible. The problem you are having now might be a problem we all have, to some degree, all our lives. I still have problems with emptiness. All I can suggest is that you try to walk with the Lord every minute of every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by umzza View Post
    I've been trying to be inquisitive about God but I keep feeling like it's empty learning. I have been thinking that if I come to a logical understanding of God I can be at peace. Before, I thought getting some sort of a high off something would bring peace. Then I thought alcohol would bring peace. Now I've been thinking that organizing my life and learning would bring peace. But no matter how low I get or self-satisfied/prideful I get I don't have peace. Feeling a bit depressed about it so pray that I don't get super low and I'm able to get right with God. Also the I still have bit of a problem with wanting alcohol. I don't think it's good for me emotionally so pray that I can stop that. Thanks
    Get more than inquistive about God. Learning more about God isn't empty learning and the Enemy will try and fill your life with drugs, alcohol and lies to try and keep you from learning more about God and His truth. You need a relationship with God through prayer, not just an intellectual idea.


    Its like reading a biography about someone and being adopted by that person.

    God loves you and wants you to be free of the lies.

    Will pray for your salvation and that you get heavenly wisdom, truth, peace and joy as only God can give you. May He bless you and protect you from the Enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by umzza View Post
    Learning alot of different things. And yes I did ask God to save me but me and other people have questioned if it was true salvation.
    What does "God saves" mean to you?
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    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

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    A relationship with God isn't obtained by logic or intellect but by the Holy Spirit drawing a person into a personal relationship with Him. God's purpose for us all is to be born again by the Spirit, just like we were born of the flesh we now need to be born again as in the Fall Satan got involved in the mix and is undermining what God purposes for us. This leave us with choosing God or the enemy of our souls by default. The scripture says over and over "I have loved you with an everlasting love, you are mine, you belong to me, seek me" We respond to His grace, (unconditional love: Look up John 1:12) There is nothing we can do to earn His favor.To live the beloved life as a Christian we will then have peace which flows out of the grace we have received from Jesus Christ.Christ becomes our first love and our identity is in Him, not what we do or what we have or what others say about us. This life can be very painful and alcohol is a temporary pain reliever but why not go for the true high. Imagine serving God and becoming co-creator with Him, seeing the nasty world change all around you as you yield to Him. My husband of 52 years had prostate cancer and when the doctor told him, he said peace shot through his body. He was very grateful for that and now he is fine. Don't settle for penultimates. You are accepted, secure and significant. Believe it! Ammabev

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    here's a post to read: Am I an Alcoholic?

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    All alcohol brings is a good buzz, a hangover and regrets. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    What does "God saves" mean to you?
    I guess that God saves people when they ask him to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmmaBev View Post
    A relationship with God isn't obtained by logic or intellect but by the Holy Spirit drawing a person into a personal relationship with Him. God's purpose for us all is to be born again by the Spirit, just like we were born of the flesh we now need to be born again as in the Fall Satan got involved in the mix and is undermining what God purposes for us. This leave us with choosing God or the enemy of our souls by default. The scripture says over and over "I have loved you with an everlasting love, you are mine, you belong to me, seek me" We respond to His grace, (unconditional love: Look up John 1:12) There is nothing we can do to earn His favor.To live the beloved life as a Christian we will then have peace which flows out of the grace we have received from Jesus Christ.Christ becomes our first love and our identity is in Him, not what we do or what we have or what others say about us. This life can be very painful and alcohol is a temporary pain reliever but why not go for the true high. Imagine serving God and becoming co-creator with Him, seeing the nasty world change all around you as you yield to Him. My husband of 52 years had prostate cancer and when the doctor told him, he said peace shot through his body. He was very grateful for that and now he is fine. Don't settle for penultimates. You are accepted, secure and significant. Believe it! Ammabev

    Idk sometimes when I would get a bit out on some medicine it would make it much easier to talk to God and feel God. Alcohol does something a little bit similar, not quite as much though.

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