My heart aches

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Suzy4

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My children's father doesn't work Sundays but claims he does , so he doesn't come home on fridays and Saturdays and kids (twin sons) keep asking for him every weekend so today they are still waiting for him to come home, they want him to play basketball or soccer with them, he of course won't answer their texts and when he gets home he'll ignore them, or refuse to play with them aND say he either has to rest because he just got home ( as if it's their fault he's tired) or he'll go wash his clothes or catch up on movies he hasn't watched and in between all that he'll text. It breaks my heart to see them yearn for his attention and he doesn't care. He'll tell them not to act like little girls amd to play with eachother that that's why they have brothers. People at his work area think he's such a great father and person, I wish they knew the real him
 

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I understand that he might be tired but he still needs to spend time with the kids. He has to realize that they will not be young forever and the time that is lost with them will not be recovered. I have said a prayer about your situation.
 
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Suzy4

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I understand that he might be tired but he still needs to spend time with the kids. He has to realize that they will not be young forever and the time that is lost with them will not be recovered. I have said a prayer about your situation.
He shouldn't be tired tho because he doesn't work Sundays, he just hangs out at his work area (it's a shopping center) because he stays out partying from night before. Actually he doesn't care about spending time with them before they get older. He can't wait for them to be 16 or 18 so he won't have to be around them anymore or support them
HE doesn't see them as God's blessings. He thinks God's blessings are when he finds a watch on the street or if another girl talks to him or if he gets a little bit more money at work. Do you understand his way of thinking now a little?
 

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He is selfish and self-centered. He obviously does not seem to care about his kids. This is indeed a sad situation.
 

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I'm so sorry to hear that about your husband, Suzy. It breaks my heart because like tourist stated, it's his loss. Your kids will be fine although there undoubtedly is more work to do on your part. Your husband needs Jesus- it all starts there. I will be praying for you that you will continue being the awesome and patient mom/wife that you are but most importantly I will pray for your husband that God will "meet him on the road to Damascus" and blind him with the light of Jesus so that he will see his depravity as God sees it. Hang in there.
 
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My children's father doesn't work Sundays but claims he does , so he doesn't come home on fridays and Saturdays and kids (twin sons) keep asking for him every weekend so today they are still waiting for him to come home, they want him to play basketball or soccer with them, he of course won't answer their texts and when he gets home he'll ignore them, or refuse to play with them aND say he either has to rest because he just got home ( as if it's their fault he's tired) or he'll go wash his clothes or catch up on movies he hasn't watched and in between all that he'll text. It breaks my heart to see them yearn for his attention and he doesn't care. He'll tell them not to act like little girls amd to play with eachother that that's why they have brothers. People at his work area think he's such a great father and person, I wish they knew the real him
Tonight hubby and I got to talking about what family life was like when we were kids. Now, we've been married for a long time, so I didn't think I was telling him anything new, but he asked questions. And by the time I finished answering them, I summed it up like this, "I thought I was growing up in a normal family. I guess I really didn't notice back then how bad it was. I was fortunate for that."

You've asked for prayers a couple of times recently. This one is about how your husband is affecting your kids and the other one was about how some women were affecting your husband. I'm fairly certain what's happening with the kids is nothing new, so they too are thinking this is a normal family.

Which makes me concerned about you. How about you? You keep laying this on everyone else -- both for fault and problems. (As in your kids aren't at fault but they have this huge problem. Your husband and those women most certainly are at fault.) Is that what's really heart breaking? Or is YOUR heart aching for YOU? Because if you aren't willing to admit your pain, how will you ever notice when God gives you something of an answer on how to deal with it?

Hurt! Be willing to hurt, because what you're going through is very hurtful to you especially. And then cry out to God.

Jonah was squished in the belly of a fish for three days before he cried out to the Lord that he was willing. The temperature inside a fish's belly is about 104 degrees. Humidity is 100%. The digestive fluids in the fish's belly probably bleached Jonah's skin. All that before he cried out to the Lord, so I suspect he fully cried out to the Lord.

And then God acted! Be honest with God. More importantly, be honest with yourself.
 

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Lord please bless Suzy4's family, let you please change the heart of this kids dad, so that he will love them, yes Lord bless them all, and let this dad, set a good example of dad, for others, please bless this matter, in Jesus loving name, Amen!
 
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Suzy4

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Tonight hubby and I got to talking about what family life was like when we were kids. Now, we've been married for a long time, so I didn't think I was telling him anything new, but he asked questions. And by the time I finished answering them, I summed it up like this, "I thought I was growing up in a normal family. I guess I really didn't notice back then how bad it was. I was fortunate for that."

You've asked for prayers a couple of times recently. This one is about how your husband is affecting your kids and the other one was about how some women were affecting your husband. I'm fairly certain what's happening with the kids is nothing new, so they too are thinking this is a normal family.

Which makes me concerned about you. How about you? You keep laying this on everyone else -- both for fault and problems. (As in your kids aren't at fault but they have this huge problem. Your husband and those women most certainly are at fault.) Is that what's really heart breaking? Or is YOUR heart aching for YOU? Because if you aren't willing to admit your pain, how will you ever notice when God gives you something of an answer on how to deal with it?

Hurt! Be willing to hurt, because what you're going through is very hurtful to you especially. And then cry out to God.

Jonah was squished in the belly of a fish for three days before he cried out to the Lord that he was willing. The temperature inside a fish's belly is about 104 degrees. Humidity is 100%. The digestive fluids in the fish's belly probably bleached Jonah's skin. All that before he cried out to the Lord, so I suspect he fully cried out to the Lord.

And then God acted! Be honest with God. More importantly, be honest with yourself.
Yes the kids are use to his behavictory but they do know it's not normal because they see how their cousins are with their dad's amd how their friends are with theirs too, always involved or doing stuff with them. And yes of course I hurt for myself deeply but I don't mention it because I know I am doing it to myself by staYing in this situation. Maybe I should just accept our marriage is over because I've tried and it doesn't seem like he's changing, how could he , he doesn't feel he's doing anything wrong so me stating in this situation will just mean I will always be miserable. I don't want to hurtake our kids but I just don't know what to do
 
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Suzy4

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Tonight hubby and I got to talking about what family life was like when we were kids. Now, we've been married for a long time, so I didn't think I was telling him anything new, but he asked questions. And by the time I finished answering them, I summed it up like this, "I thought I was growing up in a normal family. I guess I really didn't notice back then how bad it was. I was fortunate for that."

You've asked for prayers a couple of times recently. This one is about how your husband is affecting your kids and the other one was about how some women were affecting your husband. I'm fairly certain what's happening with the kids is nothing new, so they too are thinking this is a normal family.

Which makes me concerned about you. How about you? You keep laying this on everyone else -- both for fault and problems. (As in your kids aren't at fault but they have this huge problem. Your husband and those women most certainly are at fault.) Is that what's really heart breaking? Or is YOUR heart aching for YOU? Because if you aren't willing to admit your pain, how will you ever notice when God gives you something of an answer on how to deal with it?

Hurt! Be willing to hurt, because what you're going through is very hurtful to you especially. And then cry out to God.

Jonah was squished in the belly of a fish for three days before he cried out to the Lord that he was willing. The temperature inside a fish's belly is about 104 degrees. Humidity is 100%. The digestive fluids in the fish's belly probably bleached Jonah's skin. All that before he cried out to the Lord, so I suspect he fully cried out to the Lord.

And then God acted! Be honest with God. More importantly, be honest with yourself.
Yes the kids are use to his behavior but they do know it's not normal because they see how their cousins are with their dad's amd how their friends are with theirs too, always involved or doing stuff with them. And yes of course I hurt for myself deeply but I don't mention it because I know I am doing it to myself by staYing in this situation. Maybe I should just accept our marriage is over because I've tried and it doesn't seem like he's changing, how could he , he doesn't feel he's doing anything wrong so me stating in this situation will just mean I will always be miserable. I don't want to hurt our kids but I just don't know what to do
 

Didymus

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Do your children pray for their father? Do they understand that he is headed for a Christ-less eternity? I have seen similar dads get their heads out of their butts when they realize that their children pray for them, namely for salvation. I'm not saying that you should use the children to manipulate your husband- but if he realizes that his kids are genuinely concerned for his eternal destination he may listen to them rather than to you (he may see your concern as nagging). Still praying nonetheless....
 
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Yes the kids are use to his behavictory but they do know it's not normal because they see how their cousins are with their dad's amd how their friends are with theirs too, always involved or doing stuff with them. And yes of course I hurt for myself deeply but I don't mention it because I know I am doing it to myself by staYing in this situation. Maybe I should just accept our marriage is over because I've tried and it doesn't seem like he's changing, how could he , he doesn't feel he's doing anything wrong so me stating in this situation will just mean I will always be miserable. I don't want to hurtake our kids but I just don't know what to do
God can help you there too. He's got your individual answer. Do biblical word studies for:
-- Wives.
-- Husbands.
-- Marriage.
-- Divorce.

Really study these things in his word, and he will lead you to your answer.

God isn't being silent. He gave us his book long ago knowing it will give us answers if we search it with the heart to hear. Pray to hear each time you study what he says. He will lead you to the right answer -- his answer.
 

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Lord, I praise you for the prayer request because it reminds me the needs of a child-- and the simple requests a child can have to be with a parent figure. It is painful, when a man or woman is not reflecting love of God. It is harmful, what sin does to a family. But, Lord, I thank you because no matter how imperfect the parent-- Your Love Never Fails.

Help the children to latch on to You, not the carnal patterns of their dad. Help them to yearn for the Heavenly Father-- and not only someone who tends to leave. Yet, even as they desire You, help them to pray for their dad. Help them to pray for their mom. Help them to pray for your will in the family, trusting that nothing is too much for God.

Lord, please correct the dad in his behaviors-- by your spirit and other interventions.
God, change his heart, thinking, and crush his love of money.
And give him some precious time to spend repairing the family you've given him.

Lord, please put your discerning spirit in this woman's path; what she reads, watches, how she prays, speaks to the children about their dad, and she communicates with him.

Lord, help keep them safe. But also keep them together.
Help the man to repent and the woman to forgive.

In Jesus' name, amen.
 
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I thank the Lord for this thread and how it has just ministered to me as a father. Not to be too nosy but what is the atmosphere like at home? How old are your boys? Are you two fighting a lot? Do you nag him to play with the boys? I'm a dude and I have to say when I'm not getting along with my wife, before I even get in the door, I've already adversarial. At the end of the day I regret how I treated everybody when I think back to how I was such a jerk. In the moment everything seems like a chore, even playing with my kids. Instead of him coming home to everybody wanting something from him, clear the house out. Take the boys somewhere fun. Leave a note thanking him for all of the work he does and have a small gift to show him that you care. Tell him to relax and you will be home in a couple of hours. Have the boys draw him a picture or fill out a thank you card. Let him get his guard down and after a couple of hours bring the boys home laughing later than anticipated. Let him realize that he missed out on something. Tell the boys not to ask him for anything just quick answers and give him his space. Even if he asks them if they want to do something, they need to say no it's ok, I'm sure you're tired. After a couple nights with them ignoring him, if he has a heart at all he will be wanting to play with them. Sometimes we need to realize time is short not just hear it.

Playing the song "Cats in the Cradle" might be a little over the top at the end of day two or three, but every once in while might not hurt.
 
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Lord, i think you gave us moms and dads with great intentions, plans for peace and love and family. we humans must be such a daily disappointment. i'm sorry. thank you for you and your son. please take suzy's focus off her loss and put our focus on your goals and help for us. help her children succeed.
 
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Suzy4

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I thank the Lord for this thread and how it has just ministered to me as a father. Not to be too nosy but what is the atmosphere like at home? How old are your boys? Are you two fighting a lot? Do you nag him to play with the boys? I'm a dude and I have to say when I'm not getting along with my wife, before I even get in the door, I've already adversarial. At the end of the day I regret how I treated everybody when I think back to how I was such a jerk. In the moment everything seems like a chore, even playing with my kids. Instead of him coming home to everybody wanting something from him, clear the house out. Take the boys somewhere fun. Leave a note thanking him for all of the work he does and have a small gift to show him that you care. Tell him to relax and you will be home in a couple of hours. Have the boys draw him a picture or fill out a thank you card. Let him get his guard down and after a couple of hours bring the boys home laughing later than anticipated. Let him realize that he missed out on something. Tell the boys not to ask him for anything just quick answers and give him his space. Even if he asks them if they want to do something, they need to say no it's ok, I'm sure you're tired. After a couple nights with them ignoring him, if he has a heart at all he will be wanting to play with them. Sometimes we need to realize time is short not just hear it.

Playing the song "Cats in the Cradle" might be a little over the top at the end of day two or three, but every once in while might not hurt.
atmosphere is some what normal I guess, kids doing normal things, homework, tv, video games, father rarely home, so it's really just me they see for everything, I try to be as loving as I can towards them so that they feel they matter to me at least. No we don't argue at all, we barely communicate, I tend to holds everything inside, my outlet is when I pray,. I don't nag him for anything, we don't force him to spend time with our kids, but I do notice when they want his attention aND I just watch to see how it goes and he just ignores them even if they do ask him to do something with them (which is rarely because they are afraid to ask him) he rolls his eyes and makes them feel they are bugging him so that they feel bad and change their mind. He never does anything out of the goodness of his heart, he only will do something if it benefits him. Are you kidding me he would love it if he came home and nobody was there, he wouldn't miss them or feel he missed out, itshirt happened before amd when kids would get home all happy to see him, he'd say ugh back already. He constantly breaks their spirit. He has told me beforever that he resents them because if it wasn't for them he'd had more money. His priorities are his job, his money, working out and younger girls that will talk to him. He's 28 I'm 26 by younger I mean 17 and 18 which is the case right now. He only talks to and hangs around single people and nobody over the age of 19. We have 4 kids together 2 twin boys 10 years old, our daughter is 8 and youngest son is 7.
 
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Sounds narcissistic. If that's the case then he will need exterior influences to make him feel valuable. Unfortunately in these situations you and the kids would be considered like property. Does he get angry when challenged like he has to win every arguement, no matter how small? It's sad especially because you have boys. If this is the case then you should find them a mentor of some sort. I grew up without a dad. When he was in my life he was controlling and manipulative. He disowned me
about five times because I refused to participate in his games. I never would have gotten his "blessing". To illustrate the point he ripped up the invitation my sister sent him to her wedding...and she didn't do anything but love him. Anyways a coach I had in football saw my situation and became a friend. Eventually I worked for him doing odd jobs, and fixing things. He was a male role model who was able to validate my initiation into manhood. He also was the best man at my wedding. Hard to say what might have happened if I never met him. I can see my boys constantly seeking validation to be "good, strong and smart enough".

Ive had many experiences with narcissists. From my assessment it seems to originate from having one parent with nothing but praise and other nothing but criticism. Their insecurities from the critical parent are protected by a wall of self confidence. They build the wall with beauty and success, seeking validation of this (like attracting younger females). They may want to look like a good parent and husband to others but it's all part of the fisade. If their family embarrasses them somehow they become irate. Any threat to the wall like challenges to authority or accuracy are taken often too seriously. Being popular and well liked by peers and bosses are important to these individuals.

Aside from the Holy Spirit I'm not sure there will be any change. Pray and hope but change will have to come from realization of what they are and accepting that they are neither the failure they hide from themselves buried in their subconscious nor the perfection they try to emulate. Hopefully he's not narcissistic but I wouldn't rule it out.
 
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You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them [those who deny that Jesus is from God and who have the spirit of the world], because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
 
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Suzy4

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Sounds narcissistic. If that's the case then he will need exterior influences to make him feel valuable. Unfortunately in these situations you and the kids would be considered like property. Does he get angry when challenged like he has to win every arguement, no matter how small? It's sad especially because you have boys. If this is the case then you should find them a mentor of some sort. I grew up without a dad. When he was in my life he was controlling and manipulative. He disowned me
about five times because I refused to participate in his games. I never would have gotten his "blessing". To illustrate the point he ripped up the invitation my sister sent him to her wedding...and she didn't do anything but love him. Anyways a coach I had in football saw my situation and became a friend. Eventually I worked for him doing odd jobs, and fixing things. He was a male role model who was able to validate my initiation into manhood. He also was the best man at my wedding. Hard to say what might have happened if I never met him. I can see my boys constantly seeking validation to be "good, strong and smart enough".

Ive had many experiences with narcissists. From my assessment it seems to originate from having one parent with nothing but praise and other nothing but criticism. Their insecurities from the critical parent are protected by a wall of self confidence. They build the wall with beauty and success, seeking validation of this (like attracting younger females). They may want to look like a good parent and husband to others but it's all part of the fisade. If their family embarrasses them somehow they become irate. Any threat to the wall like challenges to authority or accuracy are taken often too seriously. Being popular and well liked by peers and bosses are important to these individuals.

Aside from the Holy Spirit I'm not sure there will be any change. Pray and hope but change will have to come from realization of what they are and accepting that they are neither the failure they hide from themselves buried in their subconscious nor the perfection they try to emulate. Hopefully he's not narcissistic but I wouldn't rule it out.
HE doesn't have to win every argument, but he just never sees anything wrong in anything he does, if something goes wrong he blames me or kids. His father left him and his brother when he was like 5, he started another family, he of course blames his mom for this not his dad. He's tending to follow in his dad's footsteps by thinking it's ok to drop our family and start over with someone else who has no clue how he really is. There is already someone a younger girl that is getting in the middle of our relationship, I started to reach out and tell her something but instead he found out and got very upset with me . I think I need to accept our marriage is over, I really tried everythingand prayer doesn't seem to be enough. Today I found a credit card transaction for macys.com for $200 he doesn't shop at places like that for hiself so I'm pretty sure it's a gift for sometime but not me. I really appreciate everyone's prayers and advice but I'm done it's a lost cause. Thank you
 
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Some people are just selfish. I will continue to pray for you and your children. God is a wonderful Father to the fatherless. May His love and wisdom flood their hearts, and yours as you deal with this situation. Children seem very resilient and on the outside look like they are coping fine. Don't overestimate their ability to handle this situation. If they do lose a parent, because of death there is mourning, if they lose a parent from separation there will be blame. Kids will tend to stick up for a parent who is being attacked, so don't blame him. Help the children understand the truth that we are all broken to some degree and their dad's brokenness prevents him from loving anybody, not just them.
 
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Suzy4

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Some people are just selfish. I will continue to pray for you and your children. God is a wonderful Father to the fatherless. May His love and wisdom flood their hearts, and yours as you deal with this situation. Children seem very resilient and on the outside look like they are coping fine. Don't overestimate their ability to handle this situation. If they do lose a parent, because of death there is mourning, if they lose a parent from separation there will be blame. Kids will tend to stick up for a parent who is being attacked, so don't blame him. Help the children understand the truth that we are all broken to some degree and their dad's brokenness prevents him from loving anybody, not just them.
Yes selfish self centered is one of the best ways to describe him. I don't talk bad about him on front of the kids, if anything I try to cover it up or fix it . For instance couple days ago kids where outside playing soccer and he came home seen them and acted like he was going to join in but instead kicked the ball towards the head of one of my 10 year old twin he was quick enough to move out of the way so it didn't hit him, my husband got the ball again after and kicked it far across to neighbors house on other side of a busy street where he knew they couldn't go get it themselves, he then proceeded to come inside get his check and walk off to the store. Kids where upset about whaty happened I just hugged them told them their dad had a bad day at work, wasnt feeling good and didn't mean to do what he did and that he still loved them. Not sure if that helps because they are all smart kids they see how he is and they notice he never tells them sorry or hugs them or even says he loves them (he thinks that's gay to do) those are his words. They always try to get his approval or make him happy but they get let down. They make him stuff at school or home, they make him food for when he gets home , never a thank you. I just tell them that I'm sure he likes the stuff they do he just forgets to tell them. By the way one of our teen neighbors seen what happened about the soccer ball incident and brought the ball back to them and actually stayed here to finish the soccer game with them, so the kids where very happy about that and was I to see the smiles and happiness in the faces and hearts.