Prayer for deeper love and faith

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ArtsieSteph

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So if anyone knows me, or at least can see by how I react to things, I am a person very run by fear. And I know that's not Biblical, but sadly I tend to be very anxious and scared of everything. Doesn't mean God can't change that completely, but that's the state of me now.

One thing I used to do when I was little is - and by little like 10 or so - I would say "God if you get me through _______ I'll never do it again." Then He would, and I'd do it again. I was a child, I thought as a child, ect. But I had so much shame from that sort of attitude later as a teen, especially when I remembered there was a verse talking about that if you make a convenant/promise with God it best you keep it. So I decided I was going to not make any more promises to God, cuz I had no idea if I'd keep them or not in the rest of my life.

The biggest one was like in the case of Peter, where he said "I'll never leave You" and then left. I was terrified to say "I'm gonna love/always love/be there/ect for the rest of my life." Because I didn't know that for sure. I wanted to! But I didn't know what future me would do. At that point I didn't know, and didn't ask about, the fact that this was a statement of faith. Faith that God would complete the work that He'd started in me.

Now that little thing I didn't do as a kid has snowballed into a fear. A fear of losing Him. But not by anyone's hand but my own. Fear that I'm going to leave Him. Now the biggest and most obvious response is, "Well don't." And my brain's fear response is "but what if I end up doing it later? What if I fall away? What if I become lukewarm?" Again my brain doesn't think about the fact that if spent half my time in His word as to wondering what's gonna happen to me I'd be fine.

One of the worst ones was, "What if I turn from God to the enemy?" Drastic, terrifying, and the very thought made me have panic attacks. Now when I have that thought, a sort of weird calm numbness sorta comes over me. I can never tell if it's my body trying to fight the reaction it thinks it's going to have, God assuring me that it isn't going to happen and it's a moot point, or my medications just doing their job so I don't have a melt down.

There's a lot of living by feeling. Even know I think, "I had that thought, but I'm not praying God to forgive me for it. That doesn't mean I accept it but is my flesh trying to go for it?" Welcome to my brain.

What hurts most I think is that I have to remind myself of God's goodness, of His love for me, that no matter what I think or do He will always be there for me. And it makes me....feel shameful. But almost in the shame of a child to their parent. I'm sad that I'm disappointing Him. Sad that I'm having such horrible thoughts about abandoning someone who loves me. But I never want to. That's the thing. My head says "NO WAY" but my emotions are sorta flat. Again, that may be the pills.

Bottom line is: Just a prayer for loving Him more and more, like my Blainy does, and the faith to be willing to be still and let Him fight the battle.
 

ArtsieSteph

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For those ladies out there also, my current status of being is: period, feeling sick with a cold, and OCD medications. So yeah. I'm a hot mess.
 

levi85

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Lord we agree together, please bless your daughter Artsiesteph, in this matter, in Jesus loving name, Amen!
 

Magenta

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What hurts most I think is that I have to remind myself of God's goodness, of His love for me, that no matter what I think or do He will always be there for me. And it makes me....feel shameful. But almost in the shame of a child to their parent. I'm sad that I'm disappointing Him. Sad that I'm having such horrible thoughts about abandoning someone who loves me.
Dear Lord, we lift up our sister Stephanie to you, that you may calm her fears and bring peace to her aching heart, her heart that aches and breaks to think she could leave You, Lord, when You have said that you would let nothing snatch us from Your ever loving hands. Please let Stephanie know that there is no shame in the renewing of her mind by the revealed written Word of God, where we find your promises to us, Lord, we find the truth of Who You are and why You chose to come to this world: in leaving your heavenly abode where You are One with the Father, You came to suffer and die for us, that we would know the depth of your love for us, in Your willing sacrifice upon the cross of Calvary, where You poured out Your righteous blood, that we may attain to a life ever after, through Your resurrection to life more abundant. There is no shame in our needing to be reminded of this, there is no shame in facing who we are in Him, fallen, lowly, sinful beings in need of His great mercy and goodness, and blessed beyond compare to have been counted as one of His own. We ask that You allow Stephanie to experience that which she needs most, that you fill the void in her to overflowing with Your presence, that she would know of Your nearness, and Your unshakable love for us, and that YOU will never leave us or forsake us. Let Stephanie know, Lord, that You delight in her as a child of yours, and desire for her to cast all her cares on You. In Jesus' name we pray, amen.

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Lord please walk beside Artsiesteph through this day, guide her hand and steady her heart. Give her the grace to overcome her fears and anxieties. Help her by showing her the strength she already has is all she needs. Renew her mind, body and soul. Keep her mindful of Your presence and love. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.
 

JesusLives

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I can relate to your promising God stuff as I did the same thing when I was younger and discovered the same thing you have that I was not capable to keep my promises. So I learned to stop promising God things I knew I couldn't or wouldn't keep.

As a result I felt lost most of my life and when I was 56 after being in and out of church because I felt like such a hypocrite I was finding my way back to God and I was praying to Him telling Him I can't do it - I'm not able to be perfect and keep being good as hard as I try I can't do it and I'll never be able to do it and God said you are right. But Darlene that is why My Son Jesus died for your sins and when you ask me to forgive you I no longer look at your life but I look at the perfect life of My Son because His blood covers you and you are saved through Him.

So Steph stop promising God that you will be good/perfect/change your ways because we aren't capable no matter how hard we try to work our way out of our badness.... Jesus has paid our debt and we are saved through Him. Then in the ongoing process we learn to ask God to send His Holy Spirit to live in us and change our lives and God will complete the work He has started in us so you don't need to worry and be anxious anymore because Jesus has taken care of our debt.

God never leaves us we may walk away from Him but He is always with us trying to woo us back to Him so don't worry about if God will leave you because He won't... satan likes us to think such things but it is just another one of satan's lies he tries to get us to believe. God has said He loves us with an everlasting love and no one can snatch us out of His hands.... Hugs and courage sweet girl....
 

Blain

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My dear believe it or not being timid and fearful is actually very biblical some of the strongest people in the bible were once the most timid and scared little mice lol I can personally say that the love and faith you have is far stronger and deeper than you think, Ever since you and I started dating two years ago I have watched you grow and blossom in faith love and wisdom and you doubt yourself quite a lot and see yourself in a light that simply isn't true but that is why you have me because I can see you for who you really are not who you think you are and I can see things about you that you yourself cannot.

And if you recall remember how many times you said things about me that I just didn't see at all? and I said to you that it must be true that often times we need an outside look of ourselves to really see ourselves? Honestly sweetie I think you tend to over think things and that causes you to worry and fear and doubt and then you see things about yourself that just aren't true. I do think that promising God things should be taken with a grain of salt, I admit I have promised him things but I only promise him things I know with all my heart that we will do. For instance everyday when I go on my walks as i am always seeking him in everything I tend to always look at the sky as if I am looking at him directly and I tell him it doesn't matter how far I have to go or what i have to go through and it doesn't matter how long it takes father I swear I will find you and I will have all of you not just some of you not most of you all of you. your heart will be mine.

It's only out such deep love and passion and absolute undeniable un breakable certainty I ever promise anything to him
 
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So if anyone knows me, or at least can see by how I react to things, I am a person very run by fear. And I know that's not Biblical, but sadly I tend to be very anxious and scared of everything. Doesn't mean God can't change that completely, but that's the state of me now.

One thing I used to do when I was little is - and by little like 10 or so - I would say "God if you get me through _______ I'll never do it again." Then He would, and I'd do it again. I was a child, I thought as a child, ect. But I had so much shame from that sort of attitude later as a teen, especially when I remembered there was a verse talking about that if you make a convenant/promise with God it best you keep it. So I decided I was going to not make any more promises to God, cuz I had no idea if I'd keep them or not in the rest of my life.

The biggest one was like in the case of Peter, where he said "I'll never leave You" and then left. I was terrified to say "I'm gonna love/always love/be there/ect for the rest of my life." Because I didn't know that for sure. I wanted to! But I didn't know what future me would do. At that point I didn't know, and didn't ask about, the fact that this was a statement of faith. Faith that God would complete the work that He'd started in me.

Now that little thing I didn't do as a kid has snowballed into a fear. A fear of losing Him. But not by anyone's hand but my own. Fear that I'm going to leave Him. Now the biggest and most obvious response is, "Well don't." And my brain's fear response is "but what if I end up doing it later? What if I fall away? What if I become lukewarm?" Again my brain doesn't think about the fact that if spent half my time in His word as to wondering what's gonna happen to me I'd be fine.

One of the worst ones was, "What if I turn from God to the enemy?" Drastic, terrifying, and the very thought made me have panic attacks. Now when I have that thought, a sort of weird calm numbness sorta comes over me. I can never tell if it's my body trying to fight the reaction it thinks it's going to have, God assuring me that it isn't going to happen and it's a moot point, or my medications just doing their job so I don't have a melt down.

There's a lot of living by feeling. Even know I think, "I had that thought, but I'm not praying God to forgive me for it. That doesn't mean I accept it but is my flesh trying to go for it?" Welcome to my brain.

What hurts most I think is that I have to remind myself of God's goodness, of His love for me, that no matter what I think or do He will always be there for me. And it makes me....feel shameful. But almost in the shame of a child to their parent. I'm sad that I'm disappointing Him. Sad that I'm having such horrible thoughts about abandoning someone who loves me. But I never want to. That's the thing. My head says "NO WAY" but my emotions are sorta flat. Again, that may be the pills.

Bottom line is: Just a prayer for loving Him more and more, like my Blainy does, and the faith to be willing to be still and let Him fight the battle.
What if you leave him?

Here's a big shocker -- he yanks you back!

I've left God four times in 45 years. He yanks me back. And he does that simply because he has shown me he's real, so can't deny him, and he is everywhere, so can't escape him. Soooo, he yanks me back!

Yes, we hold onto God. There's the other side though. He holds on to us too. The difference is, we can lose our grip. He won't! He can't! He promised! And he cannot lie. And he always keeps his promises. So, what happens if you let go? He yanks you back!

Just so you know the other side of that fear. We cannot leave him, because he is who he is!

(AND, thank you, Lord, for post-menopause! Much easier on my emotional range. :))
 

Blain

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What if you leave him?

Here's a big shocker -- he yanks you back!

I've left God four times in 45 years. He yanks me back. And he does that simply because he has shown me he's real, so can't deny him, and he is everywhere, so can't escape him. Soooo, he yanks me back!

Yes, we hold onto God. There's the other side though. He holds on to us too. The difference is, we can lose our grip. He won't! He can't! He promised! And he cannot lie. And he always keeps his promises. So, what happens if you let go? He yanks you back!

Just so you know the other side of that fear. We cannot leave him, because he is who he is!

(AND, thank you, Lord, for post-menopause! Much easier on my emotional range. :))
Wow what a beautiful testimony of how god is relentless for us:) You must leave the osas believers in a jaw drop huh?( no offense to those who believe in osas... ok offense intended.... no seriously though no offense intended)
 
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Wow what a beautiful testimony of how god is relentless for us:) You must leave the osas believers in a jaw drop huh?( no offense to those who believe in osas... ok offense intended.... no seriously though no offense intended)
I am OSAS. lol
 

RickyZ

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Even if I went so far as to deny Christ and join the other side, it would still have no bearing on the fact that He does indeed exist and what He tells us is all true. And you can't lose Him, it's impossible, there's absolutely nowhere in this universe you can go that He won't be there. Yeah He can be a pest that way sometimes :) but there's nothing you're going to be able to do about it, even if you were to follow these thoughts and feelings. So the next time you start hearing them, you look that demon in the eye and say that even if you followed it, that wouldn't change the facts. Then declare his loss in the Name of Christ and send him packing!

Praying for you sweetie... you and Blainy (that's so cute ! :) )
 

JesusLives

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Funny story - I was mad at God for whatever reason that I don't remember but I do remember walking to my car in the parking lot at work mad and saying to Him I'm not going to talk to you and that's that...... I heard a chuckle in my head with a follow up of What are you doing now?

I honestly had to laugh because I realized God had a sense of humor and yes as I'm telling Him I'm not going to talk to Him I was doing just that.....lol
 

ArtsieSteph

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Same story different day. Only this case was a dream. I had a dream someone was sweet talking me, saying they loved me, talking pretty casually. Then they said they were a demon and I rebuked them in the name of Jesus right away. They cursed at me and then I woke up. Then it's like that same feeling of, why do I feel so relaxed and like it's ok that this just happened why aren't I mad and horrified at the enemy?! I heard a thought in my head say "come back" as in to that demon thing but I do NOT WANT THAT and I rebuke it and started telling myself the truth as always God loves me, He will never leave me or forsake me, and as always I love and am loved by beloved Blain and I will never leave him, and as always someone who is trying to deceive you into hell basically (if it was an actual demon or my dreams taunting me I've no idea) does not love you. It's like.

i live so much by my feelings. The fact that I didn't panic, which is most likely my pills doing their job, makes me worried that I was ok or welcoming this dream or thoughts. But then. I tell myself the truth and I know the truth, but for some reason it doesn't change my emotions. Like it does once I stop obsessing over the situation and I'm back to normal but.

i love God, I love my Blain, I love my family, and they love me. Obviously I also quoted scriptures and that helped a bunch. Maybe it's just that I have to state the truth as it is and let my emotions catch up after trauma. Because these situations to me are trauma.
 

Blain

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You know sspeaking of people getting angry at god there was a day not long ago( Stephanie I am sure you remember me saying this lol) when I was having the worst day and in my anger and frustration I was sooooo tempted to just cry out to the sky ( Is there anything else you wanna dump on me?!)
Like seriously

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RickyZ

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Same story different day. Only this case was a dream. I had a dream someone was sweet talking me, saying they loved me, talking pretty casually. Then they said they were a demon and I rebuked them in the name of Jesus right away. They cursed at me and then I woke up. Then it's like that same feeling of, why do I feel so relaxed and like it's ok that this just happened why aren't I mad and horrified at the enemy?! I heard a thought in my head say "come back" as in to that demon thing but I do NOT WANT THAT and I rebuke it and started telling myself the truth as always God loves me, He will never leave me or forsake me, and as always I love and am loved by beloved Blain and I will never leave him, and as always someone who is trying to deceive you into hell basically (if it was an actual demon or my dreams taunting me I've no idea) does not love you. It's like.

i live so much by my feelings. The fact that I didn't panic, which is most likely my pills doing their job, makes me worried that I was ok or welcoming this dream or thoughts. But then. I tell myself the truth and I know the truth, but for some reason it doesn't change my emotions. Like it does once I stop obsessing over the situation and I'm back to normal but.

i love God, I love my Blain, I love my family, and they love me. Obviously I also quoted scriptures and that helped a bunch. Maybe it's just that I have to state the truth as it is and let my emotions catch up after trauma. Because these situations to me are trauma.
I've always believed that you can tell how powerful one might be in the Spirit by how hard hell works to hold them under. This is spiritual warfare we are in and you are very spiritually attuned. That's what's causing all these traumatic symptoms of being at odds with this world. The more attuned (or attunable) you are to the Spirit the more this physical realm will fail you http://christianchat.com/blogs/rickyz/10631-depression-world.html. And the more satan and his minions will play on that. That thought of 'come back' was not of you, but of one demon calling to the other making you think it was you. But even tho they attacked you in the dream (and yes they will attack you thru a dream), you still did the right and faithful thing and sent them away. And the reason you are relaxed and ok with it happening again is because you know it will - and you also know that the Holy forces that defeated those demons now will defeat them again and again. It's not really our choice on that, that's just the way it is. I mean, the Holy Spirit in you led you to defeat them in your sleep. So let them try, huh? ;)

satan hits you hard - let that be for you a measure of how much harder you can hit back.
 

Blain

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I've always believed that you can tell how powerful one might be in the Spirit by how hard hell works to hold them under. This is spiritual warfare we are in and you are very spiritually attuned. That's what's causing all these traumatic symptoms of being at odds with this world. The more attuned (or attunable) you are to the Spirit the more this physical realm will fail you http://christianchat.com/blogs/rickyz/10631-depression-world.html. And the more satan and his minions will play on that. That thought of 'come back' was not of you, but of one demon calling to the other making you think it was you. But even tho they attacked you in the dream (and yes they will attack you thru a dream), you still did the right and faithful thing and sent them away. And the reason you are relaxed and ok with it happening again is because you know it will - and you also know that the Holy forces that defeated those demons now will defeat them again and again. It's not really our choice on that, that's just the way it is. I mean, the Holy Spirit in you led you to defeat them in your sleep. So let them try, huh? ;)

satan hits you hard - let that be for you a measure of how much harder you can hit back.
AH!
I already used my rep on you earlier lol. Ricky ty for helping my artsie bug and you are as wise and insightful as always