Deliverence from Deuteronomy 28

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christianwoman90

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Taize,
I know i dwelt on the chapter for a while before too. After i accepted Jesus, there were some invites to transcendental meditation (TM) gatherings, and curious, i listened and returned. Long after, i thot that was one thing the Lord was angry with me about bec. that was plain disobedience. But we have to get back to His other words on repentance, forgiveness, renewal. Fill ur thoughts with heavenly thoughts, whatever is true, noble, right and good... ur mouth too, and hopefully ur hands will follow=). Find a Christian radio station and listen every day, instead of many others where we hardly get feeding. Faithfully go to faithful church if at all possible, and u will grow with others also. God bless.
Thanks for sharing this testimony, it would is nice to know about testimonies of similar situations , specially the solutions that actually works. I will take notes.
 

Desertsrose

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In my opinion, when someone is born there are demonic plans as well as divine plans for that person, sometimes already being fulfilled. The demonic plans were already gaining from the divine plans even before the person was born. Then there are demonic manipulations and curses that are being/are/will be activated in this person. So even if the person is born with a mission even if simple, but important...it does not matter,whatever it is it's gonna fade because of the demonic plans. The demonic plans will use curses, demons, evil spirits, people who serve the devil, and anything to not only deviate a person from God's plans, but to also turn the person's life the opposite way of whatever God planned, by:
Keeping the person in spiritual blindness or just blindness
Deceiving the person about who God really is
Keeping the person under curses
Tempting the person and/or facilitating demon access
Keeping the person unknowingly under spiritual spouse control and influence
Manipulating the person's dreams in order to keep the person cursed or under spiritual spouse control
Keeping the person in ignorance about anything important,specially ignorance about God and important truths. Anything the person should know.
By doing this the demonic plans suceed in damning someone's life and shutting down the divine plans for this person. When a person was already born under curse this is easy to do it seems.
This is the resumed information I gathered last year(yes only last year I found this out, because all along I was in complete spiritual ignorance).
This is what I have been experiencing in my own life. The demonic forces just have been doing absolutely anything to deviate me me from whatever I should really be doing, which is whatever God wants me to do. I believe I am not the only one. There are probably more in this situation. Of course I don't have a crop, a vineyard nor a plantation that they can be devoured by hopers. I am not eating my children, which I don't even have. And I don't have a cattle nor do I have sheep. It is all metaphorically happening to me though. Figuratively those curses are all indeed happening to me, some even literaly.

The point of sharing Ezekiel 18 was so that you could see God's heart of love and compassion......that He's ready and willing to forgive us our sins no matter what they are if we'll repent and believe in HIm.

I'm sorry you're struggling, but until you believe that God is more powerful that Satan is, you're going to continue in this awful life.

The blood of Christ has rendered Satan powerless in our lives when we're born again. He made a spectacle of them and triumphed over them. That's why you need to read God's word. You don't realize that the enemy has no power in your life anymore - so you give him power to rule over you by listening and believing his lies.

Read what the Lord has done for us.

See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.

For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. Colossians 2:8-15

And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.

Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.

But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Ephesians 2:1-10
 
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christianwoman90

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Hi again Christian woman,

It's never too late to repent and turn back to God and live an obedient life. When we becomes God's child, He protects us from the enemy. You're no different than anyone else who's been living a life of sin. God is loving and kind and will forgive and cleanse you from all unrighteousness if you truly repent and turn back to Him.

You need to be baptized if you haven't been already. Also, find a church family to fellowship with and read your bible every day and study it. See if you can find a good study to get into. You need the word so that your mind can be transformed and you'll begin to walk in truth.

Paul says to take every thought captive and make it obedient to Christ. Don't let the past thoughts take over, don't give in to them. With repentance God gives you the ability to obey Him, to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh.

It's a walk......a journey of
sanctification. You're learning each day how to put off the desires of the flesh. You're learning to resist the enemy. God says to draw near to Him and He will draw near to you......resist the enemy and He must flee.

Leave whatever caused you to walk away from God. Run from it and never go back. Find new friends and don't go where you use to go and do what you use to do.

Completely put all your trust in God. What He says He will do, He does. All those things you mentioned above is fear of the enemy of fear of your flesh. You don't have to listen to those thoughts or feelings. Listen instead to God and His word. He's all powerful to dispel it all, to forgive it all and to help you walk in obedience.



Thank you for your comment. Here is the truth though, I DO KNOW what I should be really doing is studying,actually drinking and eating the bible...but it's hard when my mind easily drifts up from whatever I am reading. My thoughts completely deviates from whatever I am reading or listening.
I was already like that as a kid. But I know this is NOT from me.
Here's how I know it:I mainly get the most distracted when I am doing, thinking reading or listening to something important. The more important it is the easier I get distracted.
Second , I just can't find the right church to go, where I feel can belong.
Third. You are right...I should be fearing and trusting more God than my enemies or future persecution.
 
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I recently read Deuteronomy 28 , this time taking it more seriously, noticing how the curses described in it happened to me, however not all of them literaly, some other curses really happened and have been happening exactly as described in this chapter. In prayer I have been asking the Lord to break the curses in deut 28 and to deliver me from the curses from deut 28, but also adding "if is is Your purpose"to the prayers. I ask if anyone would like to pray with me like so, please feel free to pray for my cause. By the way my name is Taise. It is grave indeed. It has been happening to me chronologically. Chronoĺogically I am at verse 28(my mind have been tormented in many ways and I never had a mental diseases except for ocd in adolescence )

O.B.S.:I accepted God with an open heart with 7 or so. When about 11 I started drifting away from christianity and secretly became atheist. It's been about one year that I finally recognize Jesus God is the way the truth and the light, and have stopped believing in reincarnation, meditation etc. I recently found out about generational curses and I have been studying curses and know that much of all the persecution I was put through and some difficulties were due to this. I thank the Holy Spirit for opening my eyes and guiding me.
Ill add you to my daily prayers sister. and remind you that Christ Jesus has removed every curse of the Law for those of faith

galatians 3:13-14 "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

 
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christianwoman90

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There is no such thing as generational curses. You are saved? Then you are covered in His blood. Nothing can harm you.Now live in peace knowing the Lord protects His children.
Yes...somehow though God left me on the hands of my enemies, in such manner that I had to go through grave persecution and confusion. Not the worst persecution but still grave persecution. I know God is fair so the fault was mine. Remember Job?He did nothing wrong and so many bad things happened to him. I know I did wrong things, and didn't go through half of what he did, thank God. I had days in which I'd cry everyday because of the confusion, due to general ignorance. I wouldn't even pray , so blind I was. Thanks to the word and testimonies my ignorance has been diminished.
 
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christianwoman90

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Ill add you to my daily prayers sister. and remind you that Christ Jesus has removed every curse of the Law for those of faith

galatians 3:13-14 "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

Thanks for
 
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christianwoman90

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Hi Christianwoman, God forgives those that repent.

The Jews thought that God was cursing them for their parents sins, but God made it clear that we all suffer the consequences of our own sin. It matters not what our parents or grandparents have done.

Ezekiel 18
Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “What do you mean by using this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying,
‘The fathers eat the sour grapes,
But the children’s teeth are set on edge’?


As I live,” declares the Lord God, “you are surely not going to use this proverb in Israel anymore. Behold, all souls are Mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine. The soul who sins will die.


“But if a man is righteous and practices justice and righteousness, and does not eat at the mountain shrines or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, or defile his neighbor’s wife or approach a woman during her menstrual period— if a man does not oppress anyone, but restores to the debtor his pledge, does not commit robbery, but gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with clothing, if he does not lend money on interest or take increase, if he keeps his hand from iniquity and executes true justice between man and man, if he walks in My statutes and My ordinances so as to deal faithfully—he is righteous and will surely live,” declares the Lord God.


“Then he may have a violent son who sheds blood and who does any of these things to a brother (though he himself did not do any of these things), that is, he even eats at the mountain shrines, and defiles his neighbor’s wife, oppresses the poor and needy, commits robbery, does not restore a pledge, but lifts up his eyes to the idols and commits abomination, he lends money on interest and takes increase; will he live? He will not live! He has committed all these abominations, he will surely be put to death; his blood will be on his own head.


“Now behold, he has a son who has observed all his father’s sins which he committed, and observing does not do likewise. He does not eat at the mountain shrines or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, or defile his neighbor’s wife, or oppress anyone, or retain a pledge, or commit robbery, but he gives his bread to the hungry and covers the naked with clothing, he keeps his hand from the poor, does not take interest or increase, but executes My ordinances, and walks in My statutes; he will not die for his father’s iniquity, he will surely live. As for his father, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was not good among his people, behold, he will die for his iniquity.


“Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity?’ When the son has practiced justice and righteousness and has observed all My statutes and done them, he shall surely live. The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.


“But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die. All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live. Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?


“But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Hear now, O house of Israel! Is My way not right?

Is it not your ways that are not right? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and dies because of it, for his iniquity which he has committed he will die. Again, when a wicked man turns away from his wickedness which he has committed and practices justice and righteousness, he will save his life. Because he considered and turned away from all his transgressions which he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. But the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not right.’ Are My ways not right, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are not right?


“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct,” declares the Lord God. “Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you. Cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! For why will you die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies,” declares the Lord God. “Therefore, repent and live.”
I did sin after accepting Christ. What I am saying is that, I don't think all my sins alone were enough to get me to this point in my life
 

KBond

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Prayers.Claiming this promise for you. Genesis 50:20 "You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives."
 
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christianwoman90

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Prayers.Claiming this promise for you. Genesis 50:20 "You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives."
Oh the part about Joseph.
By the way, I didn't get the first part of the quote or how it works
 
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Iamlearning

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In my opinion, when someone is born there are demonic plans as well as divine plans for that person, sometimes already being fulfilled. The demonic plans were already gaining from the divine plans even before the person was born. Then there are demonic manipulations and curses that are being/are/will be activated in this person. So even if the person is born with a mission even if simple, but important...it does not matter,whatever it is it's gonna fade because of the demonic plans. The demonic plans will use curses, demons, evil spirits, people who serve the devil, and anything to not only deviate a person from God's plans, but to also turn the person's life the opposite way of whatever God planned, by:
Keeping the person in spiritual blindness or just blindness
Deceiving the person about who God really is
Keeping the person under curses
Tempting the person and/or facilitating demon access
Keeping the person unknowingly under spiritual spouse control and influence
Manipulating the person's dreams in order to keep the person cursed or under spiritual spouse control
Keeping the person in ignorance about anything important,specially ignorance about God and important truths. Anything the person should know.
By doing this the demonic plans suceed in damning someone's life and shutting down the divine plans for this person. When a person was already born under curse this is easy to do it seems.
This is the resumed information I gathered last year(yes only last year I found this out, because all along I was in complete spiritual ignorance).
This is what I have been experiencing in my own life. The demonic forces just have been doing absolutely anything to deviate me me from whatever I should really be doing, which is whatever God wants me to do. I believe I am not the only one. There are probably more in this situation. Of course I don't have a crop, a vineyard nor a plantation that they can be devoured by hopers. I am not eating my children, which I don't even have. And I don't have a cattle nor do I have sheep. It is all metaphorically happening to me though. Figuratively those curses are all indeed happening to me, some even literaly.
Hi Taise, my name is Maria, from Spain. I also did Yoga and stupid (and expensive) things in my past similar to the ones you mention. I was also a feminist writer before returning to religion, recently became a Christian fleeing from a Catholic background. I am reading you and I see you had some bout of OCD during adolescence. I suffer from OCD and these obsessions about being attacked by demons or curses or things we cannot control and that only exist in a mental plane sounds just too familiar. By what you say, you might be having OCD again, religious OCD is called scruples and it is very crippling. I won't go into details of what went through my mind during my bout when I went back to religion and realised these practises (chakra stuff and such) are wrong. Besides, I was working for a people who were related to masonry, I didn't know it and I am scared of conspiracies and such. So I almost went nuts with fear. The thing is it was all OCD, I went to the doctor and I am taking medication now. My head is clear, I know I am not pursued or tormented by demons or masons, I am protected by the Lord and those terrible thoughts have been gradually ceasing. What I mean is that instead of being worried about generational curses (the advice here is right, there is no such thing if you are saved) or having scruples about your past or your ancestors' past you should mention this anguish to a doctor. OCD is characterised by worry about terrible things we can't control and that overpower us, basically death, pain, condemnation, illness. Please think about it. I will be praying for you knowing the Lord is already protecting and guiding you and blocking the way to any demons that might want to torment you. Have faith and take care of your health dear, I hope my advice doesn't bother you. Many many many blessings dear.
 
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Iamlearning

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Then what could possibly make God not forgive my past sin?
This question is pure OCD dear, it has no answer and it also has no substance and only brings you endless wondering doubt and torment. Please look into it because it really looks like OCD. Praying for you.
 
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christianwoman90

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This question is pure OCD dear, it has no answer and it also has no substance and only brings you endless wondering doubt and torment. Please look into it because it really looks like OCD. Praying for you.
Hello.Thanks for praying for me, God bless you.Btw, if I have OCD it differs greatly from the type of OCD I had in adolescence. The one OCD from adolesce would be the type in which I would for example have thoughts of the sort:If I don't knuckle the wood/or walk from the one extremity of my bedroom 27 times I/certain person/my pet will die in a car crash, so doing it would save me or somebody or the pet.And so I would knuckle on the wood or walk from one extremity of my bedroom to another 27 times. Then I'd have this compulsive thought of it not being enough so 27 more times. It was sorta like that. This was the type of ocd, I had. By 14 it faded away THANKS TO GOD. Didn't even know I had ocd now btw didn't even consider it
Will ask God to cure me it if it is really ocd.
 
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RickyZ

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Your ocd didn't go away at 14, it morphed into the ocd you experience now. You don't recognize it yet but it's related.

I have cdo ... it's like ocd, but with the letters in alphabetical order ;)

Praying for you
 
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Iamlearning

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Hello.Thanks for praying for me, God bless you.Btw, if I have OCD it differs greatly from the type of OCD I had in adolescence. The one OCD from adolesce would be the type in which I would for example have thoughts of the sort:If I don't knuckle the wood/or walk from the one extremity of my bedroom 27 times I/certain person/my pet will die in a car crash, so doing it would save me or somebody or the pet.And so I would knuckle on the wood or walk from one extremity of my bedroom to another 27 times. Then I'd have this compulsive thought of it not being enough so 27 more times. It was sorta like that. This was the type of ocd, I had. By 14 it faded away THANKS TO GOD. Didn't even know I had ocd now btw didn't even consider it
Will ask God to cure me it if it is really ocd.

I will pray for you and hope I am wrong in my assumption and this is no OCD because it's quite a party. Nevertheless, if you still want to look into it, look for scruples on Google, which is religious OCD, perhaps St. Ignatius of Loyola. Information will do no harm to you and if I'm wrong the much better. May God bless you endlessly.
 
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christianwoman90

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Your ocd didn't go away at 14, it morphed into the ocd you experience now. You don't recognize it yet but it's related.

I have cdo ... it's like ocd, but with the letters in alphabetical order ;)

Praying for you
If it really is ocd then please pray so that God will cure me from it?
 
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christianwoman90

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I will pray for you and hope I am wrong in my assumption and this is no OCD because it's quite a party. Nevertheless, if you still want to look into it, look for scruples on Google, which is religious OCD, perhaps St. Ignatius of Loyola. Information will do no harm to you and if I'm wrong the much better. May God bless you endlessly.
Well can you pray with me so that God will cure me from that scruples. If it is OCD I will get cured, if it is not nobody is going to lose anything anyways.
 

maxwel

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Deliverance from Deuteronomy 28:

I've never heard of someone who needed to be delivered from Deuteronomy 28.

I know a guy that had to be delivered from drug addiction.

I know a guy that had to be delivered from gambling.

But I never knew anybody who had to be delivered from Deuteronomy 28.



Maybe you should post in the prayer forum.
 

tourist

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Deliverance from Deuteronomy 28:

I've never heard of someone who needed to be delivered from Deuteronomy 28.

I know a guy that had to be delivered from drug addiction.

I know a guy that had to be delivered from gambling.

But I never knew anybody who had to be delivered from Deuteronomy 28.



Maybe you should post in the prayer forum.
Being delivered from Deuteronomy 28 is called an Exodus.