Nathan Griffin

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RickyZ

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I don't mean to call anyone stupid, but..... If, of your sweetly selected "three shooters", one missed, one was not in a position to get a shot, and the remaining one only hit him superficially.... the moment he had been raising a real gun at any one of you bleeding hearts, you could very well be very dead right now.

Officers are not out there to play "Wild West", and see who is faster, them or the criminal.
So cold, so heartless.

Um... you would pick the three officers with the best shots? Each would shoot continuously? And ok how bout this caveat ... if the perp doesn't go down after being hit 30 to 40 times, then everyone gets a free for all.

Really Willie, the coldness of your heart is horribly affecting your understanding.

Have you looked down the barrel of a gun? Have you ducked under a hail of bullets? I have. And I know it doesn't take 9 cops to disable one person. If each cop had a 9 round mag that's 81 bullets. On a guy with a BB gun, who for all we know, could have only been trying to feed his family because his employer thinks he's a slave. You don't want to stop a criminal, you want to decimate a human. A human God loves despite his stupidity.

I won't call you stupid, you're not. But you're a child of this world ... your love has grown cold.


 

RickyZ

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Sorry Blue. Didn't mean to derail. But that does seem to happen when I'm around :)
 

Tommy379

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Something everyone is missing.

What causes a person to use deadly force in self defense?

It's fear of death, or serious bodily injury.

How can a police supervisor select 3 officers to be in fear, and 6 to not be in fear?
 

RickyZ

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Something everyone is missing.

What causes a person to use deadly force in self defense?

It's fear of death, or serious bodily injury.

How can a police supervisor select 3 officers to be in fear, and 6 to not be in fear?
Because police officers should be able to control their fear, or they should not be police officers.

Again, is your intent to stop a perp or to Swiss cheese a human being?

1 to 3 bullets generally stops them. 50 to 100 bullets, you're just taking target practice. On a living human being that God loves even if you don't.
 

RickyZ

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How many bullets would Jesus fire?
 

Tommy379

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Because police officers should be able to control their fear, or they should not be police officers.

Again, is your intent to stop a perp or to Swiss cheese a human being?

1 to 3 bullets generally stops them. 50 to 100 bullets, you're just taking target practice. On a living human being that God loves even if you don't.
You do not know what you're writing about.
 

RickyZ

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You do not know what you're writing about.
Yeah, because 35 years of working side by side with them, and having family & friends in the industry, has taught me nothing.

It's easy to armchair quarterback when you've never been on the playing field.

And again, where is your supposed Christian love for mankind? You're not looking to stop a perp, you want to over-kill a human being.

Answer me - how many shots would Jesus fire? I suppose He doesn't know what he's talking about either.
 

RickyZ

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I'm surprised you and Willie aren't haranguing cops for being scum sucking union liberals who should be facing all these dangers for minimum wage and no benefits, just like all the other employees who are too lazy to be their own CEO.
 

Tommy379

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I'm surprised you and Willie aren't haranguing cops for being scum sucking union liberals who should be facing all these dangers for minimum wage and no benefits, just like all the other employees who are too lazy to be their own CEO.
Now you just lost any chance at winning an argument on this issue..... ever.

Not that your position held water to begin with.
 

blue_ladybug

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Ricky, the cops chased him from the credit union to the school. THEY were running towards him...

Apparently you've never dealt with Vermont cops.. lol


Sounds like he ran towards the cops

And yes the cops would be the scorpions. And just like the tale of the frog and the scorpion, you can't run in a cop's direction holding a gun without, um, 'gaining weight'. (From all the lead).

I don't understand why every cop on scene has to unload their clip on a perp, or shoot to kill. Seems to me a supervisor on scene should appoint 2 or 3 to be the shooters, with the first shots aimed to stop and down a perp without killing them. But this situation didn't really give them time to come up with such a plan.


 

blue_ladybug

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Tommy, Ricky and Willie, you need to take your debate to another thread. This is a PRAYER thread for Nathan. That's all I want on here is prayers for his family..
 

RickyZ

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Ricky, the cops chased him from the credit union to the school. THEY were running towards him...

Apparently you've never dealt with Vermont cops.. lol
Will Los Angeles PD and Sheriffs do? I've known some bad apples for sure.
 

RickyZ

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Tommy, Ricky and Willie, you need to take your debate to another thread. This is a PRAYER thread for Nathan. That's all I want on here is prayers for his family..
You heard her guys... we were at an impasse anyway.

Sorry Blue