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Ash_JFF

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I am getting over a spiritual slump in my life where I put a lot of things over God. Like David though (Psalm 32:3-5), God broke me to a point where all I could do is repent. I am now throwing a lot of things out, physical and spiritual (daily battle on that one), in my life.

I don't have a group of "desiring God above all else" believers (well, my mom, other than her though) I can have fellowship with on a weekly (more than that hopefully) basis that I can be accountable with.

Today I just finished a letter to my Sunday school class (mostly filled with people old enough to be my grandparents - I am 24) really explaining what I want spiritually for others and from myself. I tried explaining in class but I got nervous and my words cam out all wrong so I wanted to clarify though a letter (e-mail). I basically gave the Gospel and made a choice for them. Follow Jesus deeply or not. I tried to be as gentle as possible, lol. I am just trying to separate the "wheat from the chafe" so I who I can have deep fellowship with. Also I wanted to bring people to a choice about Jesus and cross for their own sake too. I tried to back up every point I made with Scripture.

I am sick of the Baptist "don't step on any toes now" mentality (though that is in every denomination really). I want to be surrounded by people who will pray and live this pray from A. W. Tozer:

"O God, I have tasted Thy goodness and it has both satisfied me and made me thirsty for more. I am painfully conscious of my need of further grace. I am ashamed of my lack of desire. O God, the Triune god, I want to want Thee; I long to be filled with longing; I thirst to be made more thirsty still. Show me Thy glory, I pray Thee, so that I may know Thee indeed. Begin in mercy a new work of love within me. Say to my soul, “Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.” Then give me grace to rise and follow Thee up from this misty lowland where I have wandered so long."

So basically, please pray for me that I find a group of believers I can have fellowship with, pray for my Sunday school members and pray they don't kill me next Sunday lol!

 
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Crossfire

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I am getting over a spiritual slump in my life where I put a lot of things over God. Like David though (Psalm 32:3-5), God broke me to a point where all I could do is repent. I am now throwing a lot of things out, physical and spiritual (daily battle on that one), in my life.

I don't have a group of "desiring God above all else" believers (well, my mom, other than her though) I can have fellowship with on a weekly (more than that hopefully) basis that I can be accountable with.

Today I just finished a letter to my Sunday school class (mostly filled with people old enough to be my grandparents - I am 24) really explaining what I want spiritually for others and from myself. I tried explaining in class but I got nervous and my words cam out all wrong so I wanted to clarify though a letter (e-mail). I basically gave the Gospel and made a choice for them. Follow Jesus deeply or not. I tried to be as gentle as possible, lol. I am just trying to separate the "wheat from the chafe" so I who I can have deep fellowship with. Also I wanted to bring people to a choice about Jesus and cross for their own sake too. I tried to back up every point I made with Scripture.

I am sick of the Baptist "don't step on any toes now" mentality (though that is in every denomination really). I want to be surrounded by people who will pray and live this pray from A. W. Tozer:

"O God, I have tasted Thy goodness and it has both satisfied me and made me thirsty for more. I am painfully conscious of my need of further grace. I am ashamed of my lack of desire. O God, the Triune god, I want to want Thee; I long to be filled with longing; I thirst to be made more thirsty still. Show me Thy glory, I pray Thee, so that I may know Thee indeed. Begin in mercy a new work of love within me. Say to my soul, “Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.” Then give me grace to rise and follow Thee up from this misty lowland where I have wandered so long."

So basically, please pray for me that I find a group of believers I can have fellowship with, pray for my Sunday school members and pray they don't kill me next Sunday lol!


I'll be praying for you Sis. Good Christians can be hard to find at times but be rest assured they are out there! Just keep in mind that when we are faithful in the littlest of things, God is faithful in very much. Keep seeking and trusting in the Lord and He will lead you to the fellowship that your heart is longing for. He did it for me. :)

Matthew 7: 6-8


“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."


BTW - I encourage you to keep reading Tozer. The more you read, the sweeter it gets. :)
 
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shekaniah

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Father place people in her life that can surround her with your love, wisdom and understanding...
In Jesus Name, Amen
 

Lucy68

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Yes, I've read Tozer and what he says makes a lot of sense; but his approach can alienate people.

I'd like to warn you about something. You may come across to the others as "I'm sorry but you're just not spiritual enough for me....you'll just have to do better". Tozer did alienate people. I know he felt called by God to 'tell it like it is' and maybe that worked well in some ways. But for me, I respond better to a loving and gentle approach and not an approach that sounds like 'you owe me something'.

We have a couple in our church who I know means well but they come across as arrogant, conceited, and judgmental; their aim is to make people 'get in touch with their fallen selves and confess' . But their personalities are such that there isn't much confessing or fellowshipping going on and they are just alienating themselves from everybody. I know they think it's for our own 'good' but I think they are following their own methods and not the Spirit's.

I do understand your desire for deep Christian relationships. The sad fact is that those are rare, but not impossible to find.

I will be praying for you that you find a few close Christian friends that you can really relate to and that these friendships will build you up :)

As a substitute, there are some wonderful theologians out there who nicely put their teachings into print. I would have to say that my salvation (and my on-going sanctification) has come mainly through their teachings. We are still called to participate in 'the Body' and hopefully, we can be fed, and do some feeding ourselves.

One interesting thing that may come out of your confrontation with your Sunday School class is that the mature Christians may make themselves known to you. You certainly have a bold spirit :)
 
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Crossfire

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Yes, I've read Tozer and what he says makes a lot of sense; but his approach can alienate people.

I'd like to warn you about something. You may come across to the others as "I'm sorry but you're just not spiritual enough for me....you'll just have to do better". Tozer did alienate people. I know he felt called by God to 'tell it like it is' and maybe that worked well in some ways. But for me, I respond better to a loving and gentle approach and not an approach that sounds like 'you owe me something'.

We have a couple in our church who I know means well but they come across as arrogant, conceited, and judgmental; their aim is to make people 'get in touch with their fallen selves and confess' . But their personalities are such that there isn't much confessing or fellowshipping going on and they are just alienating themselves from everybody. I know they think it's for our own 'good' but I think they are following their own methods and not the Spirit's.

I do understand your desire for deep Christian relationships. The sad fact is that those are rare, but not impossible to find.

I will be praying for you that you find a few close Christian friends that you can really relate to and that these friendships will build you up :)

As a substitute, there are some wonderful theologians out there who nicely put their teachings into print. I would have to say that my salvation (and my on-going sanctification) has come mainly through their teachings. We are still called to participate in 'the Body' and hopefully, we can be fed, and do some feeding ourselves.

One interesting thing that may come out of your confrontation with your Sunday School class is that the mature Christians may make themselves known to you. You certainly have a bold spirit :)
It's not that Tozer ever intended to alienate anyone. Tozer was simply old school, a throwback to the evangelists of the 1800's who believed in getting rid of anything that would hinder you from experiencing the presence of God. He & Ravenhill were the last of a dying breed. At least in their generation. ;)

Paul himself talks about how a single christian is blessed that they can pursue Christ whole heartedly without the distractions of marriage and family to hinder them. I believe that this is good advice for any single Christian. :)
 
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Ash_JFF

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Thank you everyone for your words.

I know Tozer comes across as very strong but that is what I like about Him. I can actually see a lot of humility in his writings too. Personally I have a hard time loving people and I have to pray about that all the time. However, I always try to be the gentle and compassionate when I can but sometimes "enough is enough". I am interested in what reaction I am going to get, not for prideful reasons though. I just want to "rock the boat" a little and see how the Holy Spirit can work.
 

pickles

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Praying for Jesus to fill all you need and ask.

Hugs and God bless :)
pickles
 

Keenen

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I will pray for you. I pray that I can be as aggressive as a christian as you. That is what we need at this time. :)
 

Lucy68

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I do enjoy reading Tozer...he provides a good kick when I need it :)

Some other books that are good for spiritual growth are:

J.C. Ryle "Holiness"

"The Search for Holy Living" edited by Marvin D. Hinten
(includes essays by William Law "A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life" and "Christian Perfection"; and Jeremy Taylor "Holy Living and Holy Dying"; and by Francis de Sales "Introduction to the Devout Life")

These too are 'old school' theologians. Very indepth and thoughtful.

Please let us know what kind of a response you get from your Sunday School class :)
 
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Ash_JFF

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Thank you again for your words everyone.

I have received a kind e-mail from an elderly man whom I have know for over half my life (he is in my Sunday school class). He has given me kind words but he has told me to find joy in the private times with the Lord. He also said that he cannot find fellowship in our church so has resorted to having fellowship alone with God. I told him how important fellowship with other believers is (supported with scripture) and that he cannot give up on seeking others out. There was more to that but that was the jest of it. So far he has been the only one to contact me about it. I am afraid of going to Sunday school on Sunday. People will probably give me a major "stink eye" if you know what I mean. Oh well, what I said was scripture. I have been praying about it everyday though.
 
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Thank you again for your words everyone.

I have received a kind e-mail from an elderly man whom I have know for over half my life (he is in my Sunday school class). He has given me kind words but he has told me to find joy in the private times with the Lord. He also said that he cannot find fellowship in our church so has resorted to having fellowship alone with God. I told him how important fellowship with other believers is (supported with scripture) and that he cannot give up on seeking others out. There was more to that but that was the jest of it. So far he has been the only one to contact me about it. I am afraid of going to Sunday school on Sunday. People will probably give me a major "stink eye" if you know what I mean. Oh well, what I said was scripture. I have been praying about it everyday though.
I agree with you. After all Jesus said:


  • "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. " (Revelation 3.20)

We must open the door of our heart for Jesus to enter into our hearts with His head and body (and not only with His head). After all, if went to us seek Jesus alone, it would not be need to have instituted the Church. It was enough for Him to place us on a desert island with Holy Scripture, or else He would take us as soon as we believed. We are here because Christ wants to make Himself known to the people through us and vice versa.
 

Florcita7

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Worshipping our Father activates the flow of the Holy. Spirit in us. When we go and be with others, we are able to pour out this grace from the overflow. Fellowship with the Father becomes fellowship with His creation. It is beautifully designed!