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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I believe Matthew, Mark, Luke wrote concerning the same incident. There is more than one instance of the four gospels setting forth the same incident ... the crucifixion being the most significant and profound. you didn't read the article ... you may or may not agree with it ... yet you...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Do you believe each gospel records separate events ? ... that Jesus healed 3 different people of demon possession ? ... and the response of those around Him was basically the same at each different event? or do you believe Matthew, Mark, Luke all wrote about the same incident ? I provided...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    the Lord Jesus Christ died for the whole world ... all mankind ... all descendants of Adam: John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    sometimes communication by keyboard takes some effort to effectively get the point across ... gotta stay at it until we're sure the other guy (or gal) "gets" what we're trying to say. I see it a little differently. I believe all have faith and it is faith in operation which results in...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I do not believe mankind "became satan's seed by proxy" ... I believe mankind is in bondage to sin (Rom 6:17) and death (Heb 2:15). When Adam sinned, the authority God gave to Adam (Gen 1:26-28) was handed over to satan (Luke 4:6). satan became the ruler of this world (John 12:31) ... satan...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Romans 1 reveals what occurs in those who end up with reprobate mind: Rom 1:16-17 — the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to those who believe and in it [the gospel of Christ] the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith. Rom 1:18 — the wrath of God is revealed...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    right ... I think when the Lord Jesus Christ tells the lord lord folks "I never knew you", they will understand where they deviated ... yeah ... gotta check what we're hearing with what's written. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. if what we hear lines up...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    did you look up the term finger of God? The term is used 4 times in Scripture ... the first usage is the record in Exodus 8. The next two refer to the two tables of stone on which God wrote (Ex 31:18, Deut 9:10). Deut 9:11 refers to them as the tables of the covenant. The last is the record...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    :rolleyes: ... you rip Galatians 3:8 and Romans 3:29-30 from the context within which the Author of Scripture has placed the verses in your futile attempt to rewrite Scripture to align with your erroneous dogma. You are to align your dogma to Scripture and where you are in error, let go of the...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Matthew 12:24 tells us Jesus was speaking to pharisees. Jesus flat out told the pharisees and all who were present that He cast the demon out by the power of God ... not through any other means ... that the kingdom of God is come unto you (Luke 11:20). His point was that since He cast out...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    yes ... they suppress the truth in unrighteousness (Rom 1:18) ... and God gives them over as they step further and further away from Him ... Rom 1:24, Rom 1:26, Rom 1:28 show the downward spiral to reprobate mind. .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    gotquestions.org explains what I mean by "mental assent" much better than I am able to communicate: To give intellectual assent is to agree with something on a factual basis. Faith involves intellectual assent, and intellectual assent is an important part of faith, but faith is much more than...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    The distinction is in the term "mental assent". Scripture tells us we must believe in our heart ... Romans 10:9-10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    conflating what is written in Colossians 2:14 with what is written in Revelation 20:12 is improper interpretation of Scripture. conflating what is written in Colossians 2:14 with what is written in Daniel 9:24 is improper interpretation of Scripture. conflating what is written in Romans 5:6...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    :rolleyes: ... nope ... God imputes righteousness when a person believes ... at that moment the person is "Justified before God" ... at that moment the person is no longer "unregenerate" ... "dead in sins" ... "children of wrath as others". in your erroneous surmisings, you completely obfuscate...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    We have already gone through these verses, brightfame52: the "elect" referred to in Rom 8:33 are those who are born again through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ... those who are in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1) ... those who walk after the Spirit (Rom 8:4) ... those in whom the Spirit of God dwells...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    When Adam and Eve sinned, God said the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil (Gen 3:22). some folks do not believe mankind can know good and insist that mankind can only know evil ... so they carry that "total depravity" schtick to the extreme (again, not saying you). yes, in...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    When the pharisees accused Jesus of casting out devils by beelzebub (Matt 12:24, Mark 3:22, Luke 11:15), Jesus replied: Luke 11: 19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. 20 But if I with the finger of God cast out...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I do not believe a person can believe the gospel and not be saved because we are told the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation to those who believe (Rom 1:16). So I do agree someone can understand the gospel and not be saved. I do not agree that someone can understand the...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    right ... there are some sitting in church who think they are saved but they aren't which (to me) brings the total depravity issue into question (and I'm not saying whether or not you agree with total depravity). if natural man is so totally depraved, no unbelievers would be sitting in church...