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@studentoftheword Too bad the edit button is so limited here, because I re-read your post and see that my answer doesn't fully address a very important point you made: the second death. In general, it is the second death that we as believers are saved from experiencing because of what Christ...

Interesting discussion you all are having. I wanted to chime in on this particular statement of yours since it touches on the main point I've tried to make here (that sins are not forgiven, but it is people who forgiven of their sins). It is true that blood sacrifices were a major component...

I mean, I directly addressed that issue two separate times: ~~~~~ Yes, that is correct. But the bible shows us that the Lord is not bound by time. There are multiple examples of God speaking in the past tense with authority about something that hasn't chronologically happened yet. He is...

^^^ <continued with the post on the previous page> Finally, what shall be done with verses in the bible that appear to go both directions when it comes to what exactly God is forgiving? Some state the passage with pronouns, indicating a person or people are forgiven, and other plainly talk...

In this response, connected to the one above and the thread as a whole, I will try to more clearly illustrate and explain how the bible supports God's forgiveness of people instead of sin. I will also at the end try to reconcile the fact that scriptures many of us posted here appear to support...

OK, I've now read through the entire thing. My response to your comments about the pastor were addressed in my last entry above, so I won't address it further here. Now on to the meat 'n potatoes of the main topic we're discussing. I think I understand where you (and some others who expressed...

In a bit I'll be addressing more responses to the main question posed in this thread (does God forgive sins, or forgive the people who sin?), but I want to put away one side issue first... would some of you out there please stop focusing on the pastor who made the statement? I am not even...

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll make enough time to read through all the responses. For now though, a few comments on a couple of posts... ~~~ I literally brought the verse up and addressed it thoroughly in the first post towards the end since I claimed to my stepfather that it...

I visited a church I grew up in today with my dad, stepfather and daughter. The pastor briefly mentioned something in his sermon that my stepfather and dad (both saved like me) strongly disagreed with: "Sins are never forgiven. Ever. "The pastor didn't elaborate and simply went on with the rest...

Hola... I just joined the site and this is my first post on the forums. There is this bible passage I read awhile ago that I cannot find again after a ton of searching. I checked my saved verses on my phone's bible app (hundreds of them) and did a bunch of internet searches, but nothing clicks...