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so someone creates an op about salvation and the fact it is a free gift....meaning we do not and cannot earn it, and one person decides he needs to obscure that fact with Calvinism which is an ism and not a way to accept that free gift why don't these folks who take over the threads of others...

and here is another post from 2021.... Who cares what Calvinism says? Why are you reading Calvinist doctrine? But for the question of total depravity, I don't know that God ever used those words, but he certainly said something about it. Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was...

there is a vast amount of posts and threads about Calvinsim and all that stuff if anyone does a search of the forums. Here is an interesting post.....from 2020 no less.... The most quoted verse in Calvinsim is without question John 6.44 . 44No man can come to me, except the Father which hath...

Right. I have wondered how many dyed in the wool 'Calvinists' actually know that just like ice cream, there are many flavors

I can't find Calvin's name anywhere in the Bible either....but do a search of the forums for Calvinism and that name will appear more than the name of Jesus It is alarming actually. It about makes me wonder if Calvins' doctrine was not meant to suplant our actual Savior :unsure:

Oh my. You really are entrenched in Calvinism and that has not been of any help regarding what scripture actually states. Cherry picking verses and slanting them to agree with wrong doctrine just results in non-spiritual ears even if a person is saved

do you know the Bible never has a thing to say about hearing with spiritual ears? that is a made up sentiment of those who wish to create their own god who is not the God of the Bible who says ALL are welcome now to be sure, the Bible has plenty to say about the Holy Spirit but we can only...

Well that's glorious salvation! the all are all those who have accepted Christ there is no limit unless a person limits themself by not accepting Christ but Romans 1 indicates that people have no excuse because God has made Himself known through creation itself all in all, that indicates...

1First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered for everyone— 2for kings and all those in authority—so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. 3This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4who wants...

Calvinism is the belief that God alone determines which individuals will be saved and which will not, and these eternal choices were made before creation. Well, the logical conclusion to that belief, is that anyone God has decided is not worth the time, is destined for damnation.....the lake of...

well here is the original op truth is, I believe people are more against the current denial of reality going on, then they are for someone THE someone they will be for, is THE someone who will put the breaks on and do a 180 or at least as close to it as possible seems that person is actually...

try this exercise go the closest mirror and look straight into it. you are the man

nah. that's just you presenting a case for elect vs non-elect and how God decides who will be saved and who will become fodder for the fire a gift is actually something given with the recipient not doing anything to receive it, other than taking possession of said gift so my husband comes...

sorry, but you do not tell me how I choose to feel and this thread has lost its way and does not need to be devoted to Calvinism it served a purpose and it was a single minded purpose even though it went all over the place you chose to ignore the rest of us saying we are not going to...

what are you talking about? let me make this plainer. I did not appreciate the way you were talking to the fellow who was banned...but that was your choice nothing you said led to him being banned even if you think so. I thought you were out of place but I am not responsible for you. I...

did you not read where I have had my fill of debates about Calvinism? now you say I am giving up? How about you read what I actually post instead of interpreting it honest to pete :rolleyes:

I am going to revisit this post... maybe you should give me the benefit of the doubt and understand I know what I am talking about and who I am talking to and I know what they are really all about did you not understand the things he was saying? did I write something not from scripture to...

nah. I have had a good number of discussions with him and this is what he does. I have been here longer than my profile suggests because I have left and come back more than once. He has been here since 2018 and I have been here since about then also his reply was par for the way some Calvinist...

Problems with Calvinism Calvinists believe God has pre-determined who will go to hell and who will go to heaven. Basically, the Calvinist will explain to you that God creates some to go to heaven and some to go to hell. No one has any choice in the matter. Of course this flies in the truth...

oh here we go again with false assumptions but I never discussed salvation with you Forest, so please let's stick to the facts and not try to create some rabbit hole for you to divert through what you say here is true, but how do you say salvation is accomplished? do you express it this way...