My Journey Into Mormonism.. and God's Love. :)

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Only_Him

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Hello Everyone,
I want to share with you an important part of my life story, hoping that It could be a blessing for all of those who could find themselves in a situation similar to mine.
I’ve been praying a lot about this article and now I feel free to share this story with you.
So, first of all, I can say I’ve grown up in the evangelical faith, I’ve always lived my faith with evangelical churches, evangelical friends from different denominations (Pentecostal, Baptist and many more.). My thought about other Christian religions had been like “It’s ok, but I’m better (in someway).” [Not a very good thought to be proud of lol.]
I still am evangelical but with a very different point of view about Christianity.


So, talking abut Mormons, some years ago, in my town, I noticed one of their announcement put in a shop window : They were giving some english lessons with their number. As I always have been curious about other religions (and happy to meet people to speak English with) I decided to call them and ask them to meet. I prayed for this and asked God to protect me (I didn’t know who they were and Internet was still not so famous to know something about mormons, so I felt a little bit “scared” lol). Once I’ve seen the mormon missionaries, I felt relieved to see two american young boys who looked two nice and kind people. I guess they felt the same way I did (They were going to meet someone new as they knew nothing about me: I guess they prayed for this first meeting, too, lol.) I could remember we sat on a bench, we introduced ourselves for some minutes and then they asked me if we could pray before talking. I was happy to do so and I could see/hear their sincere prayer to God in the name of Jesus. After that, I asked them the general questions about mormons: Who they are, what they preach, what are their main beliefs which differ from other religions (especially the difference with evangelicals). The more they explained to me, the more I started to feel “uncomfortable”, because many of the things they said felt like very very strange to me lol. One thing I could notice was the fact that they were very focused on what they preached and they didn’t answer to all of my questions, but they were not worried about that: they were aware of their limits and they didn’t mind a lot. We became friends soon and I could notice that even if they were saying things I didn’t agree with, I was happy to talk to nice and good people. When I went home, I’ve started praying for this meeting and honestly I felt like “It was not the time for me to know them”, but I guess the desire to know new religions and talking in English made me not accept this spiritual advice , and so I started to contact them again. Every time we met, I didn’t feel comfortable: I like to stay with them, but spiritually I felt like it wasn’t the right time. Added to this, the questions I put them were often aimed to prove that my doctrine was correct and they were wrong. They didn’t quarrel, they just listened carefully and, if they knew the answer, they responded in a very friendly way. I haven’t had a right christian spiritual attitude towards their intent of explaining the mormon doctrine, even if we were friends. We had some other meetings (more or less I guess we had met for the next 2-3 months about once a fortnight) then, before Christmas time, they called me and invited me to their Christmas time in church, but I refused and explained them that I didn’t want to have other meetings in that moment. I didn’t feel like going to a place where I didn’t feel comfortable in front of God, so I just gave up. The missionary I talked to has been disappointed but He assured me He understood .
Then I surrendered to God all of this mormon experience I’ve passed and decided to not meeting them again. The experience I had with them hasn’t been as I expected and came to the conclusion that Mormons were dangerous spiritual people: they had strange beliefs, and that led me to think it was better for me to stay away from them. I was angry at myself because I knew I had done something which I knew the Spirit had told me not to do it but, on the other hand, I was sad for not having had a very good Christian attitude towards other religions and for having disappointed these guys as friends : all of this led me to be more cautious in taking contact with other religions and I decided to not have to do with mormons anymore.
During that time I started to stay close to God and being a church goer as I got involved in different activities. Since then, many years passed (I guess 8-10 years) and all my christian experiences have led me to mature a Christian faith based mainly on a personal walk with God where I decided to experience God fully through a personal relationship with Him, Only with Him. I still used to go to churches and have Christian friends, but in the end my spiritual walk was only staying with God.


Lately, during this last four years, this personal walk with God made me reconsider my christian point of view not comparing it with other doctrines, beliefs, organizations or numbers of people in church.. but I started to realize the importance of little things in Christianity like the faith one has, the sincerity of the truth one follows, the courage to express the own belief in a very friendly way and the desire of God.. This led me to ask God to forgive me for all the times I’ve judged other people, how much pride I had, the way I thought about people who didn’t agree with me about my Christian point of view.


One day, about 1 year and a half ago, as I was praying, I felt in my heart to pray for the mormon church and felt a lot of peace in asking God, if there were any opportunity, to get in contact with them. I felt strange to have asked that, but I didn’t pay too much attention to this prayer. I did it, felt strange and then I forgot it. Lol.
One month later, I received a phone call from an unknown number. I never answer to numbers I don’t know lol. That day I felt peace to answer and it was them.. I was kinda shocked.. This new missionaries told me if I wanted to meet them, and I felt peace to do that. It was different now. I felt God’s peace, I felt His love to meet them. I thanked God and so I did.
I went to this meeting with a new approach, waiting for God to show me what He has planned. We started the meeting with a prayer and I could feel peace in staying with them : I could realize that my heart was not afraid to know something that God has approved in my life. I can’t say I was willing to accept everything they were explaining me, but I felt happy to know new things with a new perspective: I was not judging them, I was not feeling angry at their “strange” beliefs, but I could see things differently. Since then, I became a very good friend of mormons: we started having lovely conversation about God, His Love and we exchanged opinions about Christianity. I sometime have visited the local church and have met nice, kind and lovely people. I started to read the Book of Mormon and I can honestly say that It was not so dangerous as I thought at first.
I’ve prayed for all of this and God, step by step, showed me lots of things that I consider to be things often well known among evangelical churches, too.
I can’t say I agree with everything I’ve read, but I can honestly say that some of the things I have read are things I thanked God for.


In the end, even if I was told by the missionaries the importance of following some of their beliefs (baptism and taking part to their church), I prayed God and what I felt in my heart was to stay in my personal walk and seeking Him.
Lately God has talked to me first personally, then through some Christian friends about the fact of going to church for having a family. Now I attend a Pentecostal church at the moment. Because of this I have explained the mormon missionaries the spiritual choice (told by God) of being part of a Pentecostal church and how it has affect my life, but also I’ve explained them the desire to see us and being friends. They understood and I could see they’ve been very comprehensive. We still are friends and sometime we meet just for some activities in church.


Meeting the mormons have been, and still is, a wonderful opportunity to see how God’s love works in the heart of those who seek him with a sincere heart, relying more on the fact that God is leading everyone to experience faith in Him rather than teachings on Him.
I’m not saying I’m a mormon, but my point of view about them have changed and I know that everyone’s point of view can change according to personal experience that God allows in our life.


This has been mine.


My desire, as christian, is that all of us could try to experience God fully so that we could see/appreciate every person according to their own faith, love, hope rather than other things.


My desire is that my experience could lead each one of us to think about God’s love for each person seeking Him with a sincere heart.


May God Lead Us in Every Step.


With Love.


John






:):)
 

blue_ladybug

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Mormons believe that one day they will be gods, and have their own planet. They also wear "secret underwear" to keep them chaste. They believe in polygamy and practice it openly. They honor the false prophet Joseph Smith. Mormons ARE NOT christians. REAL christians don't believe any of what Mormons believe in. Mormonism is a cult, and satan has deceived you greatly, and you are being lead down the path to hell.
 

Blain

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Your story is a very encouraging one:) I have not been a Christian for very long but in my short time of faith God taught me the importance of having a teachable and moldable heart, I have been to many different kinds of churches with many different doctrines views and beliefs and normally had I not had a teachable heart I would have heard all their doctrines and views and beliefs and simply discarded them or seen them as false and walked away however even if their views differed from mine I was always able to glean something from it God always had something to teach me or show me even in a church that was unloving.

It's more than the willingess to learn from others and to view people in a different light sometimes God will allow such things to happen so that he can use you to show his heart. I went into a catholic church once it was sunday and I wasn't planning on going to church but I always like to go on walks with God and I happen to come across a Catholic church and i have no idea why but I felt inside the need to go in there. It was like what you would have expected to see in a Catholic church and the people were friendly enough. I was welcomed and such however their doctrines and views when I began speaking with them obviously contradicted my own some of them got a little upset however I always speak my heart for better or for worse and when I spoke to them why I am a Believer and when I spoke to them about my deep love for God and for all others my passion and fire was evident to them they looked as if this was the first time they had ever encountered such a flame.

at the end of the day after it was time to go home I left that church but I also left something there, just from talking with them I saw why God lead me to that church, I am able to read people I can see and sense things about them that they might never see or know and as I spoke to them that day I could see a spark was made inside their hearts a spark that never existed in that church before a flame as small as it might have been was ignited in them simply from my willingness for God to use me simply because I spoke my heart. Perhaps this si the very reason you met those morman friends of yours:)
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Lady blue is correct, you have been deceived. Read your Bible and you will see the lies.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Mormons deny the divinity of God, believe that God Himself was once a man who has been given His own planet to be a god of and do not follow the bible, in fact Joseph Smith's story is a whole lot like Muhammads of Islam. An angel came to him and told him that the prophets and apostles all got it wrong, and they are now the one true prophet who got it all right, with a doctrine that goes against the word of God. The Gospel warns us this would happen, it even tells us that anyone, man or angel, who gives us a doctrine contrary to the Gospel, they are cursed. Meaning that angels would do this as well as man, and that the fact they spoke with an angel in NO WAY means that they are from God.

We are to worship by spirit and by truth. I know of the whole "those who come to Mormonism will know the truth because they will feel good" thing, and I can say this is completely demonic : p My life of sin I lived before coming to Christ felt good and peaceful too : p We do not put our faith in Him because it feels good : p If the words of Joseph Smith go against the word of God, then you must deny him.

Im not telling you to hate the mormons, but do not put your faith in their prophet. Come to Christ and Christ alone. His apostles have not deceived you, He specifically chose them Himself to tell us of everything, why would He chose people who would lie to us? : p
 

Blain

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Guys I don't think he was saying he was going to follow their beliefs he did say that they are not as dangerous as he first thought and he did say he has good discussions with them but he never once said he was following their beliefs did he?
Many say the very same things about the Catholics they say their not saved they say all their beliefs and views are heresy in fact many Christians completely disregard Catholics and brand them as unsaved dangerous heretics but as some of you know I went to speak with Catholics and went to learn more of their faith and their views as i do not blindly believe everything I am told and found that yes while many of them are strictly religion and traditions and a lot of them if not most refuse to test their views against the bible I found that some of them have the holy spirit some of them truly love and adore God.

I see him doing the same thing here, just as the Christian faith has many denominations so does the catholics and I am guessing so do the mormons we cannot group every mormon in the same class and I highly doubt all mormons have the exact same views and beliefs and I doubt all of them worship Joseph smith
 

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One day, about 1 year and a half ago, as I was praying, I felt in my heart to pray for the mormon church and felt a lot of peace in asking God, if there were any opportunity, to get in contact with them. I felt strange to have asked that, but I didn’t pay too much attention to this prayer. I did it, felt strange and then I forgot it. Lol.
One month later, I received a phone call from an unknown number. I never answer to numbers I don’t know lol. That day I felt peace to answer and it was them.. I was kinda shocked.. This new missionaries told me if I wanted to meet them, and I felt peace to do that. It was different now. I felt God’s peace, I felt His love to meet them. I thanked God and so I did.
I went to this meeting with a new approach, waiting for God to show me what He has planned. We started the meeting with a prayer and I could feel peace in staying with them : I could realize that my heart was not afraid to know something that God has approved in my life. I can’t say I was willing to accept everything they were explaining me, but I felt happy to know new things with a new perspective: I was not judging them, I was not feeling angry at their “strange” beliefs, but I could see things differently. Since then, I became a very good friend of mormons: we started having lovely conversation about God, His Love and we exchanged opinions about Christianity. I sometime have visited the local church and have met nice, kind and lovely people. I started to read the Book of Mormon and I can honestly say that It was not so dangerous as I thought at first.
It would certainly seem like hes leading us to believe that he is being guided by God to accept their ideas, and not reject them. Seeing that Joseph Smith taught a doctrine that is not from Christ, we should absolutely be against it.

It may have a few similarities with Christianity. Like being baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy spirit. But that doesnt mean it is 100% from Christ. Islam boasts of having many things in common with the Gospel. They believe there is one god. They believe in angels. The believe in virgin birth. They believe in the day of judgement. But they still deny Christ entirely. So it is not of the same god.

If it denies Christ, it is not of God. Mormons also place their faith in their works. They believe that if you live a good enough life you will be made into a god as well, and given your own planet to be god of. This has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, and is even blasphemous, as it claims there is more than one God.

Yep, love the mormons. Be kind to them. Do not accept their prophet, though.
 
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Only_Him

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Dear LadyBug,


Thank you for your comment.


I suggest you to have a look at the OFFICIAL mormon website (www.mormon.org) where you can find all the RIGHT explanation of what mormons believe and, most of all, their main preaching : CHRIST.


I am not mormon.
I have been led by GOD in this path of Blessing and important Teachings for my life.
I believe God knows His more than I do.


Ps: I'm not gonna reply to any comment which doesn't aim to edify the christian church in general.


bye.
 
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Only_Him

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"..sometimes God will allow such things to happen so that he can use you to show his heart"

Dear Blain,

Thanks for your words. YES, I believe what you wrote about your life and I'm very glad you could understand my experience.

God knows much more than us.

:) ty a lot.
 
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Only_Him

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Dear Yeraza_bats,


Thank you for your comment.

As far as I know,
All true christians rely on seeking God with a sincere heart more than anything else.
As I ve written in the article, you can conclude that
I am not mormon. My desire was to share my experience with God.
I have been led by GOD in this path of Blessing and some important Teachings for my life.
I believe God knows His People more than I do.

You seem a smart person,
If you don't mind, I suggest you to have a look at the OFFICIAL mormon website (
www.mormon.org) where you can find all the RIGHT explanation of what mormons believe and, most of all, their main preaching : CHRIST.
PLUS, I recommend you to have a look at an interesting site where some evangelicals show a friendly approach to mormons even if not agreeing on many mormon doctrines : The Mormon Church is Foundationally Christian | Evangelicals and Mormons for Jesus




Comments are welcome and important to understand the own experience more than the own doctrinal views.
I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna reply to any comment which doesn't aim to edify the christian church in general.

I'm on a journey with God and I'm learning from others,too. :)

bye.
 
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blue_ladybug

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You should read the rules here. It's against them to post links to advertise other sites such as mormonism. And btw, catholics are NOT christians. As I said before, they believe things that we don't. They pray to Mary, we don't. They use rosaries, we don't, nor do we bow down to statues. Catholicism is a false religion, and should NOT be edified in any way..
 
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Miri

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Guys I don't think he was saying he was going to follow their beliefs he did say that they are not as dangerous as he first thought and he did say he has good discussions with them but he never once said he was following their beliefs did he?
Many say the very same things about the Catholics they say their not saved they say all their beliefs and views are heresy in fact many Christians completely disregard Catholics and brand them as unsaved dangerous heretics but as some of you know I went to speak with Catholics and went to learn more of their faith and their views as i do not blindly believe everything I am told and found that yes while many of them are strictly religion and traditions and a lot of them if not most refuse to test their views against the bible I found that some of them have the holy spirit some of them truly love and adore God.

I see him doing the same thing here, just as the Christian faith has many denominations so does the catholics and I am guessing so do the mormons we cannot group every mormon in the same class and I highly doubt all mormons have the exact same views and beliefs and I doubt all of them worship Joseph smith


Hi Blain, the problem with Mormons is that it is very much a cult, they tell you
how to live who to marry what to think, where to live.

As for the goodness the OP experienced it's a kind of deceit to draw people in.
I think the old fashioned term is love bombing, then once the have you they install
fear of rejection. I've seen the job they do on people and what the OP describes is
typical.

The flip side I suppose is if we as Christians demonstrated the fruits of the spirit as we
should, (ie genuine not put on like the Mormons) then less people would be drawn to
cults.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Only_Him

Maybe you met an individual (or more) that did know Jesus
.... but be aware that they have some teachings that are NOT in tune with the bible:

Mormons believe the following about God: He has not always been the Supreme Being of the universe (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321) but attained that status through righteous living and persistent effort (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). They believe God the Father has a “body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s” (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22). Brigham Young taught that Adam actually was God and the father of Jesus Christ—although this teaching has been abandoned by modern Mormon leaders.


Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus’ incarnation was the result of a physical relationship between God the Father and Mary (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115; Mormon Doctrine, p. 547). Mormons believe Jesus is a god, but that any human can also become a god (Doctrine and Covenants 132:20; Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345–354). Mormonism teaches that salvation can be earned by a combination of faith and good works (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
 

posthuman

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see how important it is to be grounded in a knowledge of God, and of the true gospel, and knowing the scriptures?
to be ready to give an answer for why you hold your faith, and to have discernment to see through clever delusion?
see how important it is to study and meditate on the Word?

to have a faith that is not based merely on feeling and experience, and an understanding that is deep and fleshed out?

so we are not carried away, because there are many false teachers and false prophets, and many false spirits in the world, and these are increasing.
 
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The mormons are by and large very dedicated people. They truly believe what they believe and like to promote their faith as much as they can. They are by and large a very nice people who offer help and assistance whenever they can. This is probably what you speak of when you say you see examples of how God's love work in those who sincerely seek and believe Him.

I'm not going to deny these aspects about the mormons as they are very true. However, whether people choose to believe it or not, doctrine is very important. Our doctrine is found in the 66 books of the bible from Genesis to Revelation. This comprises the totality of scripture and lets us know exactly what we need to know in terms of how to live a life pleasing to God as directed and guided by the Holy Spirit.

The mormons believe in a god named elohim. They believe in Jesus. However, as the bible warns, there will be people who come preaching another doctrine, another gospel, and another Christ. Yes preaching a different doctrine and gospel is tantamount to teaching a different Christ. The bible also exhorts us to understand that if someone comes and preaches that Jesus is not the Word manifest in the flesh, they have the spirit of antichrist and are condemned.

Many of us have studied mormon doctrine. Many of us know exactly what they teach, and sadly, they do not preach Christ the Logos crucified, as the 2nd Person of the Godhead. What they teach is a perversity of scripture with Elohim populating the world with spirit babies who was once a man. They teach Jesus and Satan are brothers. Does this not in essence deny the deity of Christ? The mormons have 3 other books: The Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price. Are we not exhorted not to add or subtract from the word of God?

Yes mormons may be earnest and loyal about what they believe. Yes they may be great at helping other people in need. Yes they may be great at spreading around what they believe with others. At the end of the day though, their doctrine definitely puts them in a cult status regarding their beliefs. If we do not spread the truth, what benefit is the love that we give others? Through their kindness, they attract a great many people. They have an amazing support network throughout the country and many do fall into this web of assistance and niceness. However, the truth that they offer is not the truth of God and will not help anyone who follows this way come the day of judgment. It's one thing to give assistance and support, but if your doctrine and gospel and Jesus are different, there is no eternal life that will come of it.
 

Blain

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Ya... only him it's very much against the rules to post those links and as for every ones comments what they say for the most part is true a lot of mormon believers like catholics are very set in their ways and focus less on God himself. Christianity is only one of the many branches of christ believers and to say we are the only branch who are truly saved is incorrect however the main things about Christianity itself is the relationship with God the love that flows through that bond between us and him I have seen others in Catholic religion who know this love and relationship with him but they are far and few in between and tend to the sort of black sheep among the Catholic faith, I don't know much about the mormons in all honesty but this site as well as many Christians themselves have told me that the Catholics are heresy and are not saved and had I not sought the truth of the matter for myself I might have accepted that but in my seeking found some catholics who the holy spirit was quite evident in and until I find proof otherwise I want to believe the same for mormons but I would have to seek the truth of the matter for myself first.
 
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Ya... only him it's very much against the rules to post those links and as for every ones comments what they say for the most part is true a lot of mormon believers like catholics are very set in their ways and focus less on God himself. Christianity is only one of the many branches of christ believers and to say we are the only branch who are truly saved is incorrect however the main things about Christianity itself is the relationship with God the love that flows through that bond between us and him I have seen others in Catholic religion who know this love and relationship with him but they are far and few in between and tend to the sort of black sheep among the Catholic faith, I don't know much about the mormons in all honesty but this site as well as many Christians themselves have told me that the Catholics are heresy and are not saved and had I not sought the truth of the matter for myself I might have accepted that but in my seeking found some catholics who the holy spirit was quite evident in and until I find proof otherwise I want to believe the same for mormons but I would have to seek the truth of the matter for myself first.
Wow. Careful there, brother. Mormons believe vastly different things to Christians. There may be believers amongst the Mormons, amongst the Catholics etc. but Mormonism (as a cult) is directly opposed to Christianity.
 

posthuman

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. . . Christianity is only one of the many branches of christ believers and to say we are the only branch who are truly saved is incorrect . . .

. . . until I find proof otherwise I want to believe the same for mormons but I would have to seek the truth of the matter for myself first.
Wow. Careful there, brother. Mormons believe vastly different things to Christians. There may be believers amongst the Mormons, amongst the Catholics etc. but Mormonism (as a cult) is directly opposed to Christianity.

Tintin is right, and if & when you do seek out the truth of the matter, you'll also discover that there is an enormous difference between mormonism and any 'branch' of Christ believers -- far, far more than a presbyterian & a methodist for example.

their 'god' was once a man, and is the son of another god, who is the son of another god, etc etc.
to them, YHWH is just a man who lived on planet kolob and eventually became enlightened and progressed to become a 'god' at which point he was given his own planet, which just happens to be earth, to populate with his literal children, every single human being. they believe he and his wife ((yes, a goddess)) procreated spirit babies for eons, and that's what all the men and women who ever lived on planet earth are. their 'god' is still learning and becoming a better god all the time - if he's lucky and he's a good god, maybe he'll get another planet one day.

they believe every male 'believer' who embraces their prophets and keeps their laws will become gods too in the same way, and then if they choose to speak the name of any of their wives, their wives will also be resurrected and basically have spirit sex for eternity, populating their own planet. apart from that the women in mormonism don't really have a purpose - the man runs the planet once he is a god etc - and they don't get resurrected unless they have a husband and then only if the husband speaks their name.

everyone in mormonism goes to heaven, one level or another, except for precisely one group: anyone who becomes a mormon through their rituals, professing allegiance to their prophets, and later leaves the mormon church, goes to hell. and that's the only way to go to hell in their theology: the only people in hell are ex-mormons; everyone else, no matter how wicked, is in one of a couple of levels of heaven for all eternity.

there is an awful lot more weirdness, too; this is just a taste.

still sound like legitimately a "branch" of Christ-believers?

it gets worse, but you can go find out for yourself. their "Christ" is not our Christ - their jesus is not the real Jesus. they are super-sweet people while they are trying to evangelize you -- and while they remain largely ignorant of the depth of their heresies. the people they send out on the mission fields are always relatively new converts, almost always young, and have not been fully indoctrinated yet. they simply don't know much of what their 'prophets' teach.

the book itself is plagiarized from a literally stolen manuscript of a fictional story imagining the American Indians might have been a lost tribe of Israel, with large doses of verbatim and not-so-verbatim quotes from the KJV sprinkled all over it. the stolen fiction provides the outline of the book, and the snippets ripped out of the actual Bible and spread out across the plagiarized material are what make it sound to someone who doesn't know their own Bible all that well, but has heard bits of it over time, as though it's legitimate. it is literally a cut& paste job here -- that's why people who just kind of skim through it, and have only sort of skimmed through the actual Bible, say it says lots of things that seem to agree with the Bible -- of course it does; it's copied straight out of the Bible.

there are something like zillions of reasons that mormonism is patently false & antichrist, and that all their documents are forgeries.

if you are unaware of this, and feel like maybe it's something that might have some truth to it, do yourself a favor and go do a lot of reading up on mormonthink.com or similar places, written by people who came out of mormonism & can tell you what it's really all about. talking to a mormon who is still udner the thumb of his bishop isn't going to get you real answers, and their missionaries don't have answers: they have booklets they are memorizing and preaching to you.

this is a seriously deranged & dangerous & powerful worldwide cult, second in size & wealth only to the catholic church -- and not by a very big margin. more powerful than most countries. and they are growing, quickly, while the RCC is either shrinking or staying about the same size. i would not be surprised in the slightest to see the actual antichrist come out of this beast, rather than the RCC, while most believers are looking for Rome to give birth to that one. mormons actually have prophecies about a mormon ruling the world from a throne in America, bringing 'peace' to it and ushering in a new world era.

it's something i believe you really ought to dig deeper into and pray about -- and do this apart from mormon missionaries, so that when you do talk to them, you already have some knowledge that goes beyond the carrot on the stick that they will dangle in front of you.