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Wow so your posts remind me of so called 'religious' people, kind of like the ones who mocked Jesus and spat on him while nailing him to the cross he died on for us.
All I see in your words are judgement, accusations and hate - where exactly in any of this are you showing God's love - honestly I'm pretty sure God has no positive feeling towards the way your treating this girl, one of God's precious daughters and our sister in Christ.
So I guess you're the one we need to be praying for, I also pray that this young girl who is in search of love and acceptance takes no notice of your discriminating words.
As Jesus said...
"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
John 8:7
C
WOW... when I read your posts I cannot (for some reason) imagine the person speaking through you is the exact same person who had dinner with sinners and tax collectors, or the one who forgave a woman caught in adultery or even the one who healed the daughter of a pagan.
Here's a question, if you're so quick to point the finger at blueteardrop and say she is not right with God because of her homosexuality do you keep the laws of YHWH 100% all the time making you untouchable to judgement?
Let me make it easy for you to understand...
Do you celebrate His birth on the 25th of December by erecting a tree and adorning it with silver and gold? if so, then why do you join the world in the celebration of the resurrection of the Babylonian god Nimrod in which the Israelites were warned NOT to do?
Do you mourn Christ's death and resurrection at Easter with the rest of the world? That is to say on the first full moon following the spring equinox? And do you celebrate it with easter eggs? If so then why do you join the ancient pagans in celebrating the powers of ‘Isis’ (or Ishtar, goddess of heaven- among many other names) and the rabbit (who ancient celts believed they saw in the full moon) which is a symbol, or mascot, for fertility and the eggs resembling re-birth of their god.
Or do you follow the biblical account of the death and resurrection of the Christ and celebrate it alongside the Jewish Passover?
If you answered no to the first 2 questions then congratulations, but now you have to ask yourself if you spread the word regarding whoring celebrations among today's churches like you point the finger blueteardrop for not being perfect? If not then be careful because you have passion in judging but not in spreading truth. By the exact same way you judge blueteardrop, you too till be judged (Matthew 7:1) because you are too busy trying to remove the speck of sawdust from your brother's (or in this case- sister's) eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye! (Matthew 7:3)
Best practice love towards other's, and allow YHWH to shine through your words and maybe then blueteardrop will actually take heed to advice given on here and not feel rejected and pushed into a world that she doesn't belong to as she is now part of our family.
Blueteardrop, all I can say to you is that you are loved. By true Christians that understand that noone is perfect and especially by the Father who sent His only son to die for you. But be careful, the bible strictly states actions that will separate us from the Kingdom of Heaven and homosexual offenders is one of them. If you believe you will forever be gay because that is the way you were born then you have placed your faith not in the Father but on your physical capabilities. I strongly recommend you research the works by Ps. Sy Rogers. He is a pastor who was gay but found Christ and is now a happily married man with children and in full force leading the way for Christ. It wasn't an instantaneous change in a blink of an eye, instead, it was a long process that had him handing over to YHWH his weaknesses in the flesh and allowing Christ to change him. It's up to you, seek YHWH and you shall find Him. It's His promise to you and He can't break His promises. I love you, and many others here do also. Don't be swayed by the attacks of certain people because they cannot be speaking from the spirit because their words do not resemble the fruits of the spirt (Galatians 5:22).
Much love
G
There are some so-called christians that will say you are condemned-however,it is not in our calling to pass judgment on you.As for me,I know that God is the only one you will have to answer to in the day of judgement.on that day you will stand before God and recieve that judgement.You have as much right to be a christian and serve god as anyone else.And ,while most of us disagree with homosexuality,like I said it is not our salvation but yours.Please don't give up on serving god just because a few people want to go against God and pass judgement when they are not capable of doing so. In the bible it says (paraphrase) something like how can you see to remove the mote from your brothers eye without first removing the beam from your own eye.none of us are perfect and I pray that you will ignore ingnorance and do your best to serve God in the best way you can.people who pass judgement on you are not truely christians in my opinion....
So please do not give up,I know god is working in your life,and you can only do your best and no more than that. the fact that you are sending your message is proof of that.Keep Your faith and god will help You if you let him.
BILL
So please do not give up,I know god is working in your life,and you can only do your best and no more than that. the fact that you are sending your message is proof of that.Keep Your faith and god will help You if you let him.
BILL
??? Yes, everyone expected the Inquisition, because the Papacy is AntiChrist, and that's been known for well over a thousand years. Rome - in one form or another - has been killing Christians for 2000 years, and will be again very soon. So it wasn't a matter of "good people getting carried away," but rather evil people doing what they do best.
"Because her basic doctrinal premises remain in place, Rome can yet again rise up against her spiritual enemies at some future date when she again wields exclusive ecclesiastical control of a region. In fact, the "Holy Office" of the Inquisition still exists within the Vatican (known today as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith), awaiting the day in which it can stamp out "heresy". As recently as 1938, a popular Catholic weekly declared:
Heresy is an awful crime against God, and those who start a heresy are more guilty than they who are traitors to the civil government. If the state has a right to punish treason with death, the principle is the same that concedes to the spiritual authority the power of life and death over the archtraitor."
Quest
"Because her basic doctrinal premises remain in place, Rome can yet again rise up against her spiritual enemies at some future date when she again wields exclusive ecclesiastical control of a region. In fact, the "Holy Office" of the Inquisition still exists within the Vatican (known today as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith), awaiting the day in which it can stamp out "heresy". As recently as 1938, a popular Catholic weekly declared:
Heresy is an awful crime against God, and those who start a heresy are more guilty than they who are traitors to the civil government. If the state has a right to punish treason with death, the principle is the same that concedes to the spiritual authority the power of life and death over the archtraitor."
Quest
L
I think we can best ignore and pray for this person and ALL of their hate. Some people are just hipocrits. They love to point the fingers at others, because that helps them to feel better about their own sins. It's not about Obama and it's not about the government. Its about Jesus. What would Jesus Do. Let's all pray for the ability to look past our differences, have some respect, maturity, and love one another.
L
Great advice. I had never heard of the books by Sy Rogers. That totally opened my perspective. I've never believed that anybody would choose to be gay. I don't think any heterosexual person can imagine being homosexual. Atleast I couldn't, thats for sure. I've never believed that one could "change" their sexuality. However, giving it to God, and allowing yourself to be changed is great advice. God heals sickness right? I guess he could heal homosexuality too. Thanks for the insight.
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I think that we are told to accept the person, not the sin.. sure its a sin to be gay/homosexual, but it doesn't mean that the person is bad... i mean we're talking about a person who has given their life to christ and a im sure is a really nice person... but the fact that they were 'born gay' blinds people to that...
mate thinking of you, don't leave cause of ignorence of the gospel.
mate thinking of you, don't leave cause of ignorence of the gospel.
E
I cannot believe that some christians would be so quick to judge, that makes them no better than a homosexual, or murderer or any other kind of sinner in God's eyes. To everyone judging (particularly shey_anne) or anyone, not in just this thread but ANYWHERE, you lower yourself to the level of whoever you are judging when you begin the judging. I am praying that you, Blueteardrop, would understand that not all christians are so judgemental and unloving, while I am not gay, I know what it is like to be judged for sins, I have a past full of them, just as everybody else here does. Don't give up on Christ just because a few people act stupidly, They are not good ambassadors of Christ, and should be paid no attention to. I will be praying for you!
Just throwing my zeroturbulance opinion in with anna that I too am just another bannana that for the lawoflove I think its questiontime;
Are people aware that everything in the Bible are physical examples of errors that are pointed out where by we can get a better understanding to grow by; so that we don't get fooled again at this time of spiritual indifferances we all have.
EG: the first one among you that is free from sin, let him be the one to throw the first stone; studied with understanding ,those stones at this time represent laws.
The Royal Law of Liberty was made a legal binding Covennant(contract) in LOVE, by THE FATHER through the families of Abraham Issiac and Jacob:
It was not Homosexuallity that brought down the hailstones on Sodom & Gomorah,It was the people not wanting to heed GODS warning from Lot that HE will not tollerate Rape & Murder.
Hope this Helps! Love ALL in CHRIST!!!
Are people aware that everything in the Bible are physical examples of errors that are pointed out where by we can get a better understanding to grow by; so that we don't get fooled again at this time of spiritual indifferances we all have.
EG: the first one among you that is free from sin, let him be the one to throw the first stone; studied with understanding ,those stones at this time represent laws.
The Royal Law of Liberty was made a legal binding Covennant(contract) in LOVE, by THE FATHER through the families of Abraham Issiac and Jacob:
It was not Homosexuallity that brought down the hailstones on Sodom & Gomorah,It was the people not wanting to heed GODS warning from Lot that HE will not tollerate Rape & Murder.
Hope this Helps! Love ALL in CHRIST!!!
P
Alright, way too much arguing is going on. It's going to confuse the heck out of Blueteardrop right now. So stop arguing and look in the Bible for goodness sake! JESUS died and arose! And when it talked about God giving His son the bible says "For God so LOVED the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall have everlasting life" (John 3:16). In our terms now- He LOVES us all so stinking much that He gave His Son so we could live with Him forever. Imagine -to you who have children think of them, others think of the closest person to you- giving your child for people around you, some of the people who wouldn't care. Yes, some of them you love and care for, but others have turned away from you for certain reasons. He did this out of LOVE for all of us and He calls us to love the same unconditional love to ALL! Yes, God does call it a sin, but we are not the ones to judge. Yes, as salvation comes we are God's children, but that doesn't mean we turn our back to the world. We are called to INTERCEDE between them, give God's life, light, love to the world instead of shunning them! If you're going to shun Blueteardrop for being gay then are you going to shun the cutter, anorexia-stricken, broken heart, witch, alcoholic? You might think it's entirely different but truly it's not! We are called to love one another, not condemn! I'm not going to argue with any of you, after this I'm not coming back to this forum. But please think of loving now, don't bring religion to a place that is supposed to bring fellowship between christians and open arms to all others.
Blueteardrop, I've been going through some of the same things. I'm not gay, but I might understand some of what you're going through so if you need to talk, my ears are always open.
Blueteardrop, I've been going through some of the same things. I'm not gay, but I might understand some of what you're going through so if you need to talk, my ears are always open.
Pretty easy if you ask me to remain Christian: If you ever lose your cool, Repent, really the only reason to have to ask for forgivness, otherwise you should just be thanking CHRIST for the forgivness daily for the sins that we ALL live in Everyday; (Never DOUBT his Forgiveness) then make Amends IF POSSIBLE! and then just practice being NICE again. It sure will be nice when we can all be that way AGAIN Forever!
Love to ALL in CHRIST!
Love to ALL in CHRIST!
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Hey sweetheart. Here's the thing, I'm not talking out of empty shallow words- this is a subject really close to my heart. My sister, best friend in the whole world is gay... I know in depth, what's going on for you. Read my testimony and you'll see I'm not talking out of just my sisters experience either. Sweetie, the issue (although it maybe to some people on this site) isn't your sexuality. People who judge you... my heart breaks from them and you by their actions. I'm sorry their hearts arn't right before God honey. You are a blessed, very very loved, wanted, gorgeous woman of God. The question is how bad you want him? Do you want Jesus? Whole heartedly? Do you want him to be everything to you? To carry you through everything, help you to grow, help you to understand what true happiness, peace and self worth is... the rest are just side issues sweetie. If you want him, and tell him, all other issues become smaller in your life. Please ignore the people who've hurt you on this. They are the type that woud cast the first stone on Jesus's beloved girl, just to have Jesus look at them and have a mirror put onto their own lives and realise how far they are away from where they should or could be...how they have no right at all to say what you're doing is wrong, because honey, not a single person is without struggles and sin. Would really love to chat, pm me if you feel up to it. Praying for you, God Bless sweetie. x
K
Jesus did not come to condemn, He came to save, we are all sinners saved by grace and none has the right to judge you. but my dearest, I am telling you this in love, God loves u, more than you will ever know, but the truth is, He is against homosexuality, his word is clear on the subject. But He is willing to help you out of it, that's why he came-to set us free from our bondage but you have to admit it is a sin, because He said it is and be willing to get out of it. call on him, He is near and I know He will never fail you.
All the best!
All the best!