Adultery vs Fornication

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YahsPrincess

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Thank you 4 posting this, its a hard subject 2 understand, but consider the fact that Yah (God) divorced isreal, and did not look 4 another bride 2 marry. The heart is not to be trusted. Im struggling w this, but my desire is 2 do the will of my heavenly Father.
 
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Jullianna

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Thanks Julianna,

I have already searched the scriptures and am constantly seeking God. I know how I feel and what God has revealed to me already, but the scriptures can be a little confusing at times.
Yep...they sure can be, especially when you've been through so much. Once the healing begins things can become more clear to us. You're a wise, smart lady. :)
 
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violakat

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I find it interesting that when talking about sin, a lot of christians will say that just thinking lustful thoughts about a woman is adultery (as Jesus said it was), but when it comes to someone who can't file for divorce yet (by law) even though her husband has left her, they say that in her case her she is bound to the marriage until the husband actually has sex with another woman.
And yet, in the Biblical days, if the woman's husband had been caught in adultery, he would have been stoned, so no divorce would be needed. I've actually have been told in recent years, by a couple of different pastors, that sexual immorality mentioned in that verse is not necessarily referring to adultery, but quite possibly other types of sexual immorality, which may include pornography. I've very sure it would also include bestiality (the mere words cause me to cringe), and whatever other form of sexual sin.
 
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Zan *ponders* can one commit adultery against a future mate? Zan always keeps that in mind. Just zan
 
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Jullianna

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I thought about that too, zander, but I thought someone might think I was nuts if I typed it out loud. ;) :D

The other thing I was thinking is that if we look upon someone lustfully, if that person is married, whether we know it or not, the guilt is the same, so, we single folks need to mind our thought lives as well. Where the mind goes, the body tends to wander shortly thereafter. THAT's the tough part, especially when it comes to sex, isn't it? We might as well be honest about it.
 
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Does it matter? Is it more beneficial to assume that someone else will marry the person, or to assume that you will marry them?

When in a relationship is it safe to assume that you will marry them instead of not marry them? It's gotta happen at some point.
 
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Jullianna

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We interact with people everyday, male AND female, and appreciate the care they put into their hairstyles, what they are wearing, that they have a great smile or pretty eyes, or a confident stride, and there is certainly nothing wrong with appreciating beauty. The problem comes when we start to wonder what's underneath that nice outfit. For all we know, that person might already be married to someone else and we would be guilty of coveting someone else's spouse and that's one of the big 10.

Sexual attraction is probably the thing most of us struggle with most. We might as well just admit it and do whatever we can to minimize the risks. I think that's at the core of what Jesus was saying. The vision of the person enters the eye, hits the mind, thoughts form and travel on down into the rest of the body and it's not long before the body says, "Hmmm...that sounds like a good time". He wants us to capture those thoughts by the Spirit and shut them down before it gets that far. And it ain't easy.
 
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It's the social saturation of satan's counterfeit version of sexuality that focuses on the physical. Yes it's there to get our attention, but if our thoughts move to the flesh first, it's a good indicator of what our hearts want. It wants an appetite to be taken care of. If the Physical gets our attention and that moves us to interest in the person, and a desire to get to know them not for what can be gained between the sheets, but what can be gained in friendship, it again reveals the motivation of the heart. It's sad in Zan's opinion, that people buy into the lie and don't realize that Great physical oneness (great sex as God planned it) comes from a deep trust and Love for a person and who that person is. We all play games with ourselves, but if we are honest, we all know what really is the interest when we cross paths with those that we are attracted to. Being honest about what we are attracted to, and why, gives great insight of the probability of success in finding God's will in a mate. sigh :p
 
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Repentantnut

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Hi everyone. I do think for God's children, the goal said here was to under law punish. Indeed adultary is a sin, as we are told to each and everyone to have a wife to avoid occasions to fall. To keep the adultary woman or man away and single is to punish. Jesus says, in Moses time they had letters of divorce. And that nowadays if yu desire in your heart a married person you sin. Jesus explains the universality of sin and the hardness of the heart. Dont worry, we are all sinners and we all need Jesus. I by no means approve sin, but here you can read between the lines and see that Jesus was talking about love in comparison. But he does put emphasys on the fact that adultary can lead to ....... So then, we are here discussing about verbs wih indeed teach us the exact meaning of a verse, but can we spend time looking at its essence? At it spirit?. And for the record love does not sin. Remember that never since creation, lust, adultary and fornication under all possible aspects been systematically made available under porneia by the internet. and in fact we must try our best to uphold a relationship. but indeed trahison is very hard to forgive. my opinion
 
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Repentantnut

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To covet is similar as adultary... it is he srongfull desire. And I forgot to mention, why did we not ask God for a perfect match, all this would never happen..... But I do believe that love overcometh and that deviant is very bad. and the emphhasis by apostles is so clear, all the warning about sex, so lets surrender to Jesus and live a real relationship with Him and then husband and wife. Or single, in obediance.