Agreement of "The Gospel"?

[GRACE_ambassador]

Precious friends, concerning "God's Good News":

a) some claim "only one gospel" beginning with Adam, the first in

"The Body of Christ"; ​

b) others claim "only one gospel for all time", but "The Body Of Christ

began at Pentecost (Peter the first 'member'?)";​

c) And, Finally, more than one gospel, and "Paul is the first 'member'

of The Body Of Christ, With A New And Different 'Good News' than ​

previously. ​

​

We are sure all of these Bible students are sincere in what "they
believe," but, due to the mass Confusion involved, we suggest that
we start over, if you will, and find God's Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (Rule # 2 BSR) for "Approval Unto God," instead of Confusion.
Amen?

First, this brief introduction:

1) "the name" of this 'good news'?:

"...The gospel of Jesus Christ..." (Mark 1:1 AV)​

​

prophecy / covenants / law / Christ [ To Be King ] on earth / 12 apostles /
/ to earthly Israel:

"...the gospel of the kingdom..." (Matthew 4:23, 9:35; Mark 1:14 AV)​

"...the gospel of the circumcision...unto Peter;" (Galatians 2:7 AV)​

= good news for God's [ Previous ] dispensation of:

prophecy / covenants / law / Christ [ To Be King ] on earth / 12 apostles /
/ to earthly 12 tribes of Israel
Correct?

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Mystery / Grace / One apostle / Christ [ Head of The Church ], From
Heaven / For The One Heavenly Body Of Christ:

2)

a) "The Name" Of This 'Good [ Greatest ] News'?:​

"...The Gospel Of our Lord Jesus Christ" (2 Thessalonians 1:8 AV)​

"...The Gospel Of The Grace Of God" (Acts 20:24 AV)​

b) other i.d.'s of This "Gospel Of The Grace Of God"?:​

"...The Gospel Of God"​

(Romans 1:1, 15:16; 2 Corinthians 11:7; 1 Thessalonians 2:2, 8, 9 AV)​

"...The Gospel Of His Son..." (Romans 1:9 AV)​

"...The Gospel Of Christ..." (Romans 1:16, 15:19; ​

1 Corinthians 9:12, 18; 2 Corinthians 9:13, 10:14;​

Philippians 1:27; 1 Thessalonians 3:2; Galatians 1:6-7 AV)​

​

"...The Gospel Of Peace..." (Romans 10:15; Ephesians 6:15 AV)​

​

"...The Gospel Of the uncircumcision..." [ to Paul ] ​

(Galatians 2:7 AV)​

​

"...The Gospel Of your salvation..." (Ephesians 1:13 AV)​

​

"...The Glorious Gospel Of The Blessed God..." ​

(1 Timothy 1:11 AV)​

​

= The Gospel Of The Grace Of God For His [ Current ] Dispensation

Of Grace For The Body Of Christ!​

Correct?

Amen.

 

[Nehemiah6]

...we suggest that we start over, if you will, and find God's Word Of Truth

In response, let me say this:

1. There is only ONE Gospel with many designations. It cannot otherwise be "the everlasting Gospel".

2. There can be no conflict between any of the NT writers. Just different ways of expressing the Gospel.

3, The Gospel is primarily that Christ came into the world to save sinners. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. (1 Tim 1:15)

4. Paul summarized this in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4: Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

All of this can be elaborated, but these are the essential facts. Indeed everything written about Christ in the NT is the Gospel. Hence the first four books are called "Gospels".

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Part 1 Agreement With The Gospel?

Intro is here...

... a) some claim "only one gospel" beginning with Adam, the first in
"The Body of Christ" = [ Universalism? ];...

Precious friends, in accordance with “Let ALL things be done Decently
and In Order!” (Rule # 1 BSR), let us now examine God's Word Of Truth,
if In Biblical Fact:

1) Adam heard the one [ and same ] good news that we now know God
Committed To Paul in The Revelation Of The Mystery, "The Death, Burial,
and Resurrection Of The Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Corinthians 15:3-4 AV),
and if:

​

2) Adam did, in fact, understand it, and look forward [ opposite of
"we look backward" ] to The Cross, believing That "Glorious Gospel
Of The Blessed God," and was thus, same as we - are "Saved By Grace
Through faith, Apart from all works of the law"? (Ephesians 2:8-10;
Titus 3:4-7 AV), and if:

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3) Adam was "Baptized By The One Spirit Into The One Body Of Christ"

(1 Corinthians 12:13 AV)?:​

​

What Saith The Scripture?:

"And The LORD God Said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done ​

this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the ​

field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the ​

days of thy life: ​

​

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between ​

thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise ​

his heel.​

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Unto the woman He Said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy ​

conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire ​

shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. ​

And unto Adam He Said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice ​

of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, ​

saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in ​

sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; ​

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Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt ​

eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, ​

till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust ​

thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:14-19 AV) ​

A) How exactly, is all this 'bad news' that "The LORD God...":

​

1) "... Said Unto the serpent..." ​

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2) "...Unto the woman He Said..." ​

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3) "...Unto Adam He Said..." ​

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claimed to be the 'one good news' to Adam and Eve? ​

B) And, a little further, what 'good news' did Adam and Eve (or God?)
say "unto their children"?:

"And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the ​

fruit of the ground an offering unto The LORD. And Abel, he also ​

brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. ​

​

And The LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto ​

Cain and to his offering He had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, ​

and his countenance fell. ​

​

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy ​

countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? ​

and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door" (Genesis 4:3-7 AV) ​

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Was Abel, at That time. then "Baptized By The Holy Spirit Into The
[ Jew and Gentile Joint ] Body Of Christ [ the 'One New man'"
(Ephesians 2:15 AV) ], when He obeyed "God's Commandment"
to bring "the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof" to
"be accepted Of God"?

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Again, how exactly is this the Exact same one gospel "Of The Grace
Of God," that He Committed To Paul, In God's "Revelation Of The
Mystery"? Did God Not "Say It" to Adam, because at 'that time',
It Was Still A Secret "Hid In God" (Ephesians 3:9 AV)?

Thus, Biblically, this 'claim' of Universalism is incorrect, Correct?

Amen.

to be continued...

 

[p_rehbein]

There are many false gospels being preached/taught. However, when Scripture refers to the "One Gospel" it refers to the Gospel of Jesus. The one TRUE Gospel which establishes Gods salvation plan for all who believe.

 

[John146]

In response, let me say this:

1. There is only ONE Gospel with many designations. It cannot otherwise be "the everlasting Gospel".

2. There can be no conflict between any of the NT writers. Just different ways of expressing the Gospel.

3, The Gospel is primarily that Christ came into the world to save sinners. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. (1 Tim 1:15)

4. Paul summarized this in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4: Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

All of this can be elaborated, but these are the essential facts. Indeed everything written about Christ in the NT is the Gospel. Hence the first four books are called "Gospels".

1. There is only one gospel unto salvation and that's the gospel of the grace of God. Paul calls it "my gospel".
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

2. There is no conflict when one rightly divides the word of truth. The audience matters.

3. Agreed, but how it is applied may differ.

4. Paul didn't summarize it, he defined the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Paul didn't summarize it, he defined the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4.

Since the actual Gospel (when preached or presented on paper, or on a web site) would be much more detailed, and also show the significance of each event (death, burial, and resurrection), plus how God commands all men today to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, what is shown in 1 Corinthians is a summary. Even repentance and faith in Christ would need to be explained. We need the full and true Gospel as presented in Scripture and then explained.

 

[John146]

Since the actual Gospel (when preached or presented on paper, or on a web site) would be much more detailed, and also show the significance of each event (death, burial, and resurrection), plus how God commands all men today to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, what is shown in 1 Corinthians is a summary. Even repentance and faith in Christ would need to be explained. We need the full and true Gospel as presented in Scripture and then explained.

And Paul was given special revelation to show us how an individual can be saved.

 

[Burn1986]

There are many false gospels being preached/taught. However, when Scripture refers to the "One Gospel" it refers to the Gospel of Jesus. The one TRUE Gospel which establishes Gods salvation plan for all who believe.

Yep, that’s it.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Part 2 Agreement With The Gospel?

Intro is here, Part 1 is here...

...b) others claim "only one gospel for all time", but [ disagreeing with Universalism? saying ] "The Body Of Christ began later than Adam"...

Precious friends, before we get to the Twelve and their good news,
let us examine:

1) understanding the preaching of the gospel to Abraham:

"And The Scripture, Foreseeing that God would Justify the heathen ​

through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, ​

In thee shall all nations be blessed." (Galatians 3:8 AV)​

So, was "the [ one? ] gospel" to Abraham "The Death, Burial, And
Resurrection Of Christ" and for him to look forward to "The Cross"
so God Could "Count faith in that [ one? ] gospel" for righteousness?
- What Saith The Scripture?:

"After these things The Word of The LORD came unto Abram in a ​

vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding ​

great reward. And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, ​

seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of ​

Damascus? And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: ​

and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir. ​

​

And, Behold, The Word of The LORD Came Unto him, Saying, This ​

shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine ​

own bowels shall be thine heir. And He brought him forth abroad, ​

and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be ​

able to number them: and He said unto him, So shall thy seed be." ​

(Genesis 15:1-5 AV)​

​

"And he believed in The LORD; and He counted it to him for ​

righteousness." (Genesis 15:6 AV) ​

Thus:

1) Would one gospel advocates expect us to interpret:

"look now toward heaven" as "look forward to The Cross" ​

to "be counted righteous"?​

2) Perchance, upon this counting, "The Spirit Baptized Abram

as the first 'member' Of The One Body * Of Christ"? According ​

to the one gospel?​

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Intermediate question:

If there is only one(?) gospel, then why are there four gospels of​

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?​

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Amen.

* Did you know that only Paul writes about "The Body Of Christ"?

to be continued...

 

[birdie]

Precious friends, concerning "God's Good News":

a) some claim "only one gospel" beginning with Adam, the first in

"The Body of Christ"; ​

b) others claim "only one gospel for all time", but "The Body Of Christ

began at Pentecost (Peter the first 'member'?)";​

c) And, Finally, more than one gospel, and "Paul is the first 'member'

of The Body Of Christ, With A New And Different 'Good News' than ​

previously. ​

​

We are sure all of these Bible students are sincere in what "they
believe," but, due to the mass Confusion involved, we suggest that
we start over, if you will, and find God's Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (Rule # 2 BSR) for "Approval Unto God," instead of Confusion.
Amen?

First, this brief introduction:

1) "the name" of this 'good news'?:

"...The gospel of Jesus Christ..." (Mark 1:1 AV)​

​

prophecy / covenants / law / Christ [ To Be King ] on earth / 12 apostles /
/ to earthly Israel:

"...the gospel of the kingdom..." (Matthew 4:23, 9:35; Mark 1:14 AV)​

"...the gospel of the circumcision...unto Peter;" (Galatians 2:7 AV)​

= good news for God's [ Previous ] dispensation of:

prophecy / covenants / law / Christ [ To Be King ] on earth / 12 apostles /
/ to earthly 12 tribes of Israel
Correct?

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

Mystery / Grace / One apostle / Christ [ Head of The Church ], From
Heaven / For The One Heavenly Body Of Christ:

2)

a) "The Name" Of This 'Good [ Greatest ] News'?:​

"...The Gospel Of our Lord Jesus Christ" (2 Thessalonians 1:8 AV)​

"...The Gospel Of The Grace Of God" (Acts 20:24 AV)​

b) other i.d.'s of This "Gospel Of The Grace Of God"?:​

"...The Gospel Of God"​

(Romans 1:1, 15:16; 2 Corinthians 11:7; 1 Thessalonians 2:2, 8, 9 AV)​

"...The Gospel Of His Son..." (Romans 1:9 AV)​

"...The Gospel Of Christ..." (Romans 1:16, 15:19; ​

1 Corinthians 9:12, 18; 2 Corinthians 9:13, 10:14;​

Philippians 1:27; 1 Thessalonians 3:2; Galatians 1:6-7 AV)​

​

"...The Gospel Of Peace..." (Romans 10:15; Ephesians 6:15 AV)​

​

"...The Gospel Of the uncircumcision..." [ to Paul ] ​

(Galatians 2:7 AV)​

​

"...The Gospel Of your salvation..." (Ephesians 1:13 AV)​

​

"...The Glorious Gospel Of The Blessed God..." ​

(1 Timothy 1:11 AV)​

​

= The Gospel Of The Grace Of God For His [ Current ] Dispensation

Of Grace For The Body Of Christ!​

Correct?

Amen.

Thanks for mentioning the good news. I see the entire Bible as being the good news. The spirit emphasizes various aspects of the good news, but these are not separate good newses or separate gospels. Anyway, it is good to point out the various aspects of the gospels as you have, showing various titles of the gospel given in scripture. My belief is that it is illustrating or revealing the one gospel more fully that way, not separate gospels.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I see the entire Bible as being the good news.

Isn't that something, that as you know, very few understand what you mean. It's good to see there's someone else out there that sees the Bible as one Miraculous, unbelievable Story that revolves around Jesus Christ . . . from the beginning of Genesis to the end of Revelation.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Part 3 Agreement With The Gospel?

Intro is here, Part 1 is here, Part 2 is here ...

b) others claim "only one gospel for all time", but "The Body Of Christ
began at Pentecost..."

1) understanding the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom:

"And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, ​

and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner ​

of sickness and all manner of disease among the people." ​

(Matthew 4:23, 9:35; Mark 1:14 AV)​

​

aka:
"... gospel of the circumcision...unto Peter" { and the eleven? }
(Galatians 2:7 AV) [ ↑ makes ↑ sense, according to Romans 15:8 AV,
eh? ]

a) How is that there is "a gospel" before this, when we find this

designation in "the gospel of Mark" in chapter 1, verse 1 AV:​

"The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God"​

Whoa! if this is "the beginning of "the one [ and only ? ] gospel," then
the 'one gospel for all times' claim fails, eh? So, we will leave the
[ if possible ] 'non-confusing' interpretation of this to others who are
'above my simpleton pay grade', eh?

b) Perchance the following is the one [ of all time ] gospel, preached
when 70 were sent out, by Christ, on earth, with "the [ different? ]
gospel of the kingdom" to preach and heal, before The Cross?

"After these things The Lord appointed other seventy also, and ​

sent them two and two before His Face into every city and place, ​

whither He Himself would come...And heal the sick that are there-​

in, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.​

​

But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, ​

go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, Even ​

the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe ​

off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the ​

kingdom of God is come nigh unto you...​

​

Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the ​

mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been ​

done in you, they had a great while ago repented...​

​

...And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, ​

even the devils are subject unto us through Thy Name."​

(Complete context in Luke 10:1-17; ​

cp Matthew 10:5-15; Mark 6:7-13 AV)​

​

[ Perchance can anyone tell us of a historical occurrence in the last
2000 years of any other 70 who have went out "preached, healed all,
and returned again with this "same JOY" with the so-called 'one gospel'?
Would not such an occurrence be in accordance with "God's Will" in 'the
gospel' of John 14:12 AV? ]

If "come nigh" and "at hand" are the same, then seems to me this is
exactly "What Jesus, on earth, Said was the "gospel of the kingdom",
Correct?:

"...And [ John the baptizer ] Saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom ​

of heaven is at hand...​

...From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for ​

the kingdom of heaven is at hand...​

...And [ Jesus ] Saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of ​

God is at hand: Repent ye, and believe the gospel." [ of The ​

Grace Of God, to Paul? ] (Matthew 3:2...4:17...Mark 1:15 AV)​

​

Did they [ along with all the OT "saints of faith" ] also understand
and preach "believe on / look forward to [ The Cross ] The Death,
Burial, and Resurrection Of Christ"?

How and Where exactly, is Paul's Message [ The Gospel Of Grace, The
One and only Gospel for the Current Dispensation of Grace ] found in
the OT and in the four gospels, understood, and 'preached', when we have, from God Himself, "This Record":

"Then He took unto Him the twelve, and Said unto them, Behold, we​

go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets​

concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For He shall be​

delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully​

entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge Him, and put​

​

Him to death [ On The Cross ]: and the third day He shall rise again.​

​

And they understood NONE of these things: and This Saying Was ​

Hid from them, Neither knew they the things which were Spoken."​

(Luke 18:31-34 AV)​

​

If "The Body Of Christ" did not start until Pentecost, then to what
assembly do all the recipients repenting/believing [ and being
water baptized according to ] the above gospel of the kingdom
belong?

Seems to me the one gospel adherents have a lot of explaining to
do about the "misunderstood one gospel theory/theology," eh?

Amen.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Part 4 Agreement With The Gospel?

Intro is here, Part 1 is here, Part 2 is here, Part 3 is here ...

Precious friends, due to the following...:

"Then He took unto Him the twelve, and Said Unto them... ​

...And they shall scourge Him, and put ​

​

Him to Death [ On The Cross ]: and the third day He shall rise again. ​

​

And they understood NONE of these things: and This Saying Was Hid​

from them, Neither knew they the things Which Were Spoken."​

(Luke 18:31-34 AV) [ By Christ, on the earth, ↑ Correct? ↑ ↑ ↑ ]​

​

...we Certainly Disagree with 'one' gospel adherents, because:

1) It was impossible to preach the "misunderstood Death of Christ,

saying "look forward to The Cross" [ which Cannot be found ], at ​

that time, or any time previously. And then, to make matters ​

more Confusing:​

2) Pronounce that Peter, at Pentecost, now understood it, and also

preached it As 'good news' [ like God Revealed To Paul ], saying ​

"look backward to The Cross" [ which Cannot be found ] - ​

However, The Following Was Found - ie:​

3) the gospel of the kingdom, According to:

prophecy / covenants / law, the Son of man, The earthly Jesus:

"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a Man ​

approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, ​

which God did by Him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also ​

know: ​

​

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge ​

of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and ​

slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: ​

because it was not possible that He should be holden of it." ​

(Acts 2:22-24 AV)​

​

Wait! Being "Accused of murder" is good news? Not in my Bible.

Conviction [ "pricked in the heart" ], eh? The Jewish hearers asking:

"Men and brethren, what shall we do?" (v. 37) ​

God's Requirement "to be saved" under the gospel of the kingdom,
given to Peter [ and the eleven ], to preach to the [ Jewish/Israeli
gospel of the ] circumcision"?:

'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, His Death, Burial, and ​

Resurrection, and thou shalt be saved' [ Paul's Basic Message ​

From Christ, in Heaven ( to the uncircumcision ) ]?​

Or?:

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one ​

of you in The Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ​

ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38 AV) ​

(Other 'gospels' Confirmation: Matthew 3:1-2, 6, 11; ​

Mark 1:4, 8; Luke 3:2-3; Mark 16:15-18 AV)​

​

All this is in Strict Adherence to Christ's Words [ on earth! ] About
The Coming Of The Holy Ghost:

"But The Comforter, Which Is The Holy Ghost, Whom ​

The Father Will Send In My Name, He Shall Teach you all ​

things,..." [ Including Paul's "my Gospel Of The Mystery"? ]​

​

[ or? ]​

​

"...and bring all things to your remembrance, Whatsoever ​

{ on earth } I Have Said Unto you." (John 14:26 AV)​

Q: While He was on earth, Correct?

Thus we see Two Different gospels for Two Different assemblies:

a) prophecy / covenants / law / earthly gospel of the kingdom

​

Peter and all 'the saved' until Acts 9 "added to The Lord", in His ​

earthly Kingdom assembly​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

B) Grace / Mystery / Heavenly Gospel Of The Grace Of God

Paul, the first member of [ and those saved thereafter 'added' To ] ​

The Body Of Christ, With God's New and Different Gospel, Considering ​

our "hope is Heavenly!" According To What God Spoke To Paul, ​

From Heaven...​

to be continued...