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notuptome

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Christ said His flesh is true food and His blood is true drink. The Greek here for true, means actual or is truly. Christ allowed His disciples to walk away, never correcting them or stating that He was being symbolic, instead, He turns to Hear s apostles and asks if they are leaving too.
This would have been a direct transgression of the law. Israel was told not to eat blood. This position would make Christ a transgressor of Gods law. That of course is impossible so it must be figurative or symbolic and not literal.

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mailmandan

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The Scriptures forbid drinking of blood (Leviticus 17:14; Deuteronomy 12:16,23; Acts 21:25); certainly the Lord would never contradict the precepts of the Law. In this very discource Jesus emphasizes faith in response to testimony (John 6:35,40,47). Flesh and blood here point to Christ as the crucified One and the source of life. Jesus speaks of faith's appropriation of Himself as God's appointed sacrifice. Due to the fact that many did not understand the symbolic nature of the instruction, some exclaimed, “This is a hard saying; who can hear it?” (John 6:60). Because of their unbelief, they misunderstood His words, as if He was going to literally give them His flesh to eat and His blood to drink. Jesus exposes their unbelieving hearts (6:64).
 
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The First resurrection of Rev 20:6

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

This resurrection is not the New Birth, but the New Birth is effected by it, and the result of it, however the First Resurrection was when those Christ died for, they being in Union with Him at His Resurrection from the dead, they partake of the First Resurrection, and technically then they are passed from death to life in Christ's Resurrection ! Paul agrees when he wrote Rom 6:4-5

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we [all for whom He died] also should walk in newness of life.

5 For if we[all for whom He died] have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we[all for whom He died] shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Now water baptism is not being considered here, however when believers were water baptized, they were confessing this very Truth of being in Union with Him in His Death, Burial, and Resurrection for them !510
 
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1 Cor 15:22


1 Cor 15:22

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Who are the all here ? Most would say that all here , especially in Adam, refers to all mankind without exception, however that is a huge mistake, and context cannot support such a view, the all here is restricted to believers, those for whom Christ died 1 Cor 15:3, the Church 1 Cor 1:2

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

For the scripture is in the context of a soterilogical discussion with the saved, and has absolutely nothing to do with the condemned world 1 Cor 11:32

32 But when we [The Church] are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Also this concurs with the sequence of the verse, *** all the Church died in Adam, so likewise all the Church is made alive in Christ, the Last Adam.

Now understand something, the reprobates did not die in Adam, their Union with Adam was afterwards, after the fall, and it is only a natural union, but they never at all had a Federal Head Union with Adam, nor Christ. Now Adam did have a Union with Christ since he was made in His Image and Likeness and was a figure of Him Rom 5:14; Gen 1:26; Col 1:16.

The same goes for the comparisons of Adam and Christ in Rom 5:12ff, for therein its only Adam's Headship of the Church that is in view and not the reprobate Rom 5:14 who did not sin in the similitude of Adam's Transgression, but in the devils 1 Jn 3:8.

In Rom 5:18 both phrases all men refer to the Church only Rom 5:18

18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Adam the federal head of the Church in the natural and Christ the Federal Head of the Church in the Spiritual, for in Adam the Church received condemnation, and in Christ the Church received Justification of Life !511
 
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Numbers 23:21 Teachs Non Imputation !


Numbers 23:21

21 He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: the Lord his God is with him, and the shout of a king is among them. and Ps 32:1-2

1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

God does not see or behold iniquity/sin in those He Justifed by Christ's Blood [a fact known in the OT] which is all the Israel of God, the Body of Christ, which is God's Church.

It does not matter that any of that company are born into the world as sinners, as ungodly, enemies, and disobedient in themselves, for even at that, God does not and cannot see any iniquity in them.

No this is not a strange or new doctrine, but its the Doctrine of the Grace of God, lets look at Ps 32:2

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

That's what is meant in Numbers 23:21, God does not impute sin against those Christ should die for, and He does not see it in them as to impute it or charge them with it against His Law, because they are dead to the Law by the Body of Christ, and as it is written Rom 5:13

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Where God's Law has been satisfied by the death of Christ for all the iniquities of those He died for, then sin cannot be imputed or charged, because the Law for them has been Highly Honored !

By the fact that those Christ died for are dead to the Law by the body of Christ Rom 7:4, for the simple fact they were charged to Christ Isa 53:5

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

As you can see, this was a fact embraced back in the OT centuries before Christ was incarnated ! The same Truth Peter later embraced 1 Pet 2:24 !

But the point is that their sins being charged to Him, they never can in this world or the world to come be charged to them, so God does not see them in them, not now or ever Ps 103:12,11,13

12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Now some may object and say, that the above phrase applies to them that fear God Vs 11,13,

My respond is that is True, but as Christ is their federal head of all them He died, His Church, He lived and died for them, while He lived before His death, His fear of God is theirs, because He was living in a representative capacity, and in that, those He represented, fear God as He did, just like when Adam disobeyed, those he federally represented disobeyed, and scripture is clear the Christ feared God while on earth by this scripture Heb 5:7

7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;


7 In the days of His flesh [Jesus] offered up definite, special petitions [for that which He not only wanted but needed] and supplications with strong crying and tears to Him Who was [always] able to save Him [out] from death, and He was heard because of His reverence toward God [His godly fear, His piety, in that He shrank from the horrors of separation from the bright presence of the Father].AMP

That Fear of His is theirs in that Imputed Righteousness God freely gives them apart from their work !512
 
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Ye are Dead !


Col 3:3

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Now though this is written to Believers, it did not apply to only believers, but it applies to all for whom Christ died, but only believers have yet to come into the Spiritual Knowledge of the blessed Truth " Ye are dead".

You see, believing or their faith is not what made them to be dead, but the Crucifying of Christ did, Paul wrote to believers at Rome Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law[How] by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

How did they become dead to the Law according to Paul here ? It was by the Body of Christ, another way of saying " by the Death of Christ" or the Cross.

Now listen to this, all for whom Christ died are just like Paul here testifies he was when he wrote Gal 2:20

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

In the original it should read, I was crucified with Christ, because the word crucified here is in the perfect past tense, which is referring to when Jesus Christ was actually Crucified on the Cross, which resulted in him now living in the future by the Faith of the Son of God, and all for whom He died are just like Paul in this, and when they become Believers by New Birth, they can say what Paul says here in Gal 2:20, in fact that's how you know that you were Crucified with Christ, when we are given faith in Him to Live !515
 
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Ye are Dead ! 2

Also the Truth is seen here in 2 Cor 5:14-15

14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead[together with Christ]:

15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Vs 14 here is declarative of the Fact that whomever be the ones Christ Loved and died for, all of them, every last one of them, by that death of His became dead with Him, when He was dead as a result of dying for them; Rev 1:18

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

When Jesus here said He was dead, they also He died for were dead, that's the same dead spoken of in 2 Cor 5:14

14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

This passage by the way proves the believers Union with Christ when He actually died for them at the Cross 30-33 ad ! Paul believed in that Union !

Now this being dead with Christ does make sure the outcome of Vs 15

And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
It makes sure they Live Spiritually unto Him that died for them fulfilling Ps 22:30

30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. and Dan 7:13-14

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed

And again this living unto Him is as sure as Christ Himself being raised from the dead so that He liveth unto God Rom 6:10

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Listen, the only way one for whom Christ died does not in this life begin to Live unto God or unto Christ, then Rom 6:10 would have to be reversed and come to nought, and Christ was never raised from the dead, and so they're still in their sins 1 Cor 15:17

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

But God be praised today for this sure Truth, all for whom Christ died, Ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God Jn 1:4

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.516