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Bushido8000

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Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
 
PoetMary

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Bushido8000 said:
Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
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Ultimately, we all must live up to our consciences regarding these issues.

However, I think one thing to consider might be this. If you are deeply connected to this church, you have a means of serving and are served by God's people, if being in this group pushes you to know God more deeply and be more like Jesus, and if being in this group encourages you to increase spiritual disciplines (prayer, bible study, care for the poor, etc.) and decrease sin, then is it worth it to cut yourself off from such a connection based on a small or rare event?

The answer might be "YES, this is such a bother to my conscience, that despite the loss, it is worth it for me to separate from this body". For others, the "much good" might outweigh this "slightly dicey."
 
Blain

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May I ask the purpose of this question?
 
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Bushido8000 said:
Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
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I dont agree with his teachings...does that answer the question?
 
Willie-T

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Bushido8000 said:
Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
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Idk...... But on just the basis of this one post, I would probably "unfriend" you...... if I had ever "friended" you in the first place.
 
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kaylagrl

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Willie-T said:
Idk...... But on just the basis of this one post, I would probably "unfriend" you...... if I had ever "friended" you in the first place.
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HUh? What did I miss?!
 
Angela53510

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I would strongly advise my pastor against it, and I would also talk to each elder about the wisdom of the decision, to say nothing of giving them links to what he has said and preached.

But come to think of it, my church would never get involved with anything to do with Osteen's ministry, or any other televangelists so I am off the hook!
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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Bushido8000 said:
Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
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What does your church get out of being associated with him? That might be a place to start.
 
crossnote

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Bushido8000 said:
Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
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I wouldn't join immediately, but red lights would begin going on.
Tell tale sign of a deeper issue.
 
santuzza

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Personally, I probably wouldn't. It would indicate to me that the leadership of the church had poor discernment.
 
posthuman

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Bushido8000 said:
offering closing prayers
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how about if you pray that everyone's eyes be opened about the deception of the "prosperity gospel" and not to led astray by traveling wolves who have "special guest prayers" at the end of their services?

i mean, you won't have any mental conflict to deal with if they ask that you don't come back for the second night, right?

;)​


honestly though, if anyone asks me to pray for them, they can find me doing so in a closet, not on a stage in front of a microphone.
 
crossnote

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posthuman said:
how about if you pray that everyone's eyes be opened about the deception of the "prosperity gospel" and not to led astray by traveling wolves who have "special guest prayers" at the end of their services?

i mean, you won't have any mental conflict to deal with if they ask that you don't come back for the second night, right?
;)​


honestly though, if anyone asks me to pray for them, they can find me doing so in a closet, not on a stage in front of a microphone.
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That doesn't have any thing to do with a skeleton in the closet does it?

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Bushido8000 said:
Would you be a part of a church, more specifically, be a part of the ministry in your church (a church that does many great things btw) that works with Joel Olsteen's Ministries in subtle ways (offering closing prayers, stuff like that) when He travels to your city?

Would you consider it a big deal? Should there even be an issue?
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I'm part of a church and a ministry that sortof works with Joel Osteen. It's not a big deal to me, personally. As long as the people we're reaching out to turn to Jesus and not to Joel Osteen or Joseph Prince or the prosperity teaching.
 
p_rehbein

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[h=1]Hebrews
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1 .) Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 .) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.


Fix your eyes on Jesus, and the rest of this will be of no matter............ :)
 
Bushido8000

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Willie-T said:
Idk...... But on just the basis of this one post, I would probably "unfriend" you...... if I had ever "friended" you in the first place.
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Why?

and the basis of the question is about just that. My wife and I are very involved in our church and its ministries. My church seems to be having these small associations with Joel Olsteen's ministries every time he comes to town but my church doesn't seem teach the falsehoods that he teaches. I don't know why there's any association and my church is too big for me to even get answers from the top (it's a multi-campus church)
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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Bushido8000 said:
Why?

and the basis of the question is about just that. My wife and I are very involved in our church and its ministries. My church seems to be having these small associations with Joel Olsteen's ministries every time he comes to town but my church doesn't seem teach the falsehoods that he teaches. I don't know why there's any association and my church is too big for me to even get answers from the top (it's a multi-campus church)
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I bet Joel subcontracts support roles to local churches. That way he doesn't have to travel with a large retinue. I bet it all boils down to money.
 
Bushido8000

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Hey I just wanted to thank everyone for their input on things! Thank you!!!!
 
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