Co-Equal and Co-Eternal

[Naphesh]

Co-Equal:

John 14:28
"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Mark 13:32
But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

John 12:49
For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.

Mark 12:28-29
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.


Co-Eternal:

Colossians 1:15
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son.....

1 John 4:9
This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.

 

[flob]

the Father is greater than I.

But emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men

nor the Son, but only the Father.

Who was made a little inferior to the angels because of the suffering of death

the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.

Hear O Israel, Jehovah is our God, Jehovah is one

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one

I and the Father are one.

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation

The Word became flesh

God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son

Eternal Father

This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.

Having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but likened to the Son of God

 

[Naphesh]

"I and my Father are one"

John 17:20
My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

See what happens when you let the Bible interpret itself?

 

[flob]

Yes. The Father contains the Son and the Son contains the Father.
They (and Their Spirit) constitute one Being.

Hear O Israel, Jehovah is our God, Jehovah is one

 

[crossnote]

Funny, how some people don't have the word 'both' in their thinking.

 

[sparkman]

I would suggest that if anyone has questions on the Trinity doctrine, that they read Forgotten Trinity by James White. The questions regarding the Trinity and the FULL deity of Jesus Christ are covered very well in the book.

This is a constant topic of discussion here, largely because some deny the doctrine of the Trinity, and many of them seem to be Hebrew Roots people lately.

 

[flob]

'both' yes.
I c that person got banned.
is that cuz they're a heretic, modalist?
Or not a Christian?

 

[jb]

Forgotten Trinity by James White...

Read this book a while ago, and a good read it was to!

For those interested you might want to have a look at This short study that deals with this subject...

Yahweh Shalom