Death and insanity over death

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Nehemiah6

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[Note: This is being posted in the Christian Family Forum, since families are suffering from the insanity of governments]

Following the introduction of the Wuhan virus or coronavirus worldwide (a new strain of the family of flu viruses in existence) at the beginning of 2020, there has been nothing but fear-mongering, panic, and insanity, as seen in the lockdowns all around the world. Those lockdowns have killed jobs, killed businesses, and also killed civil rights and liberties. And could cause some very serious after-effects, including suicides and anarchy.

Essentially this is insanity over deaths, which are parallel to those from flu and pneumonia (and which did not even receive passing mention in the past). Which means that Wuhan virus was weaponized against the free world through a major conspiracy to destroy countries from within.

Death is a fact of life. Indeed it is a certainty of life since Adam’s disobedience (Romans 5:12) . Therefore the one thing that all human beings face is death – whether early or late. Also, each person is appointed to die at a specific time which God ordains. So even those in the thick of battle will escape death until their time is up.

Sin results in death (Romans 6:23), and those who are unredeemed face the second death (which is eternal separation from God). But those who have repented and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ receive the gift of eternal life (John 11:25, 26). So the fear of death belongs to those who are without Christ, and have not been saved by grace. For Christians, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Everyone on this planet has been seriously affected by the Wuhan virus (now termed COVID-19). What is now coming to light is the madness which has affected governments, particularly those who love totalitarianism and seek to rob people of their liberties. And even the USA is gradually becoming a police state.

But what exactly are the FACTS regarding deaths from various causes as compared to coronavirus deaths? There has been a lot of total rubbish which has found its way into print, therefore we need to know what is closest to the truth (given the fact that all mortality statistics are estimates). We should focus on statistics in the USA to get a sober understanding of the situation.

In the USA the Center for Disease Control and Prevention is called CDC, and they publish statistics on deaths from various causes. Their latest figures are for 2018, and deaths are shown per 100,000 of the population (with the estimated population for 2018 at 328 million).

DEATHS PER 100,000 OF THE GENERAL POPULATION

Deaths from all causes: 723.6

Leading causes:
Heart disease: 163.6
Cancer: 149.1
Unintentional injuries 48.0
Chronic lower respiratory 39.7
diseases
Stroke 37.1
Alzheimer’s disease 30.5
Diabetes 21.4
Flu/pneumonia 14.9
Kidney disease 12.9
Suicide 14.2


Murders (from FBI stats) 4.9

So far COVID-19 deaths for 2020 are 60,299 which is equal to 17.2/100,000 (with a total estimated population of 350 million). Given the fact that those deaths primarily affected the elderly, and particularly those crowded in nursing homes (as well as those with pre-existing health conditions), the number is probably closer to 15/100,000 all things being equal. Which is similar to flu/pneumonia. A few elderly people even survived the Wuhan virus, and are walking around after full recovery. Young children and teenagers are hardly affected by this virus.

All this tells us is that Christians should keep calm and carry on. But in the event that people are compelled to take a COVID-19 vaccine (which, for all we know may be a bogus vaccine), Christians should refuse to do. No flu vaccine has ever protected 100% of those vaccinated, and has also killed many people. And our lives are in the Lord's hands, not the State's hands.
 

Nehemiah6

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Facts from Victor Davis Hanson: Greater Chance of Death During Elective Surgery than From Cornavirus (VIDEO)
[Note: video excluded]

On Friday night Victor Davis Hanson joined Laura Ingraham on The Ingraham Angle to discuss the tyrannical Democrat governors who are refusing to follow science and instead are putting unrealistic expectations on the situation in their state before they left their lockdowns.

During their discussion Victor Davis Hanson argued that the risk of death from coronavirus is less than the risk of death from elective surgery.

Victor Davis Hanson: I thought they were the party of science. And the science is if you have access to Western medicine and we do. And most people are not 65 or over like I am. And they don’t have comorbidity. They have about one or two chances in a thousand what they risk every day with elective surgery less chance of dying… They’re destroying the First and Second and even the Fourth and Fifth Amendments on edicts that have no majorities. Nobody voted for them. They’ve become power hungry.

Victor Davis Hanson is correct.

The risk of death during elective surgery is 0.67%.

The risk of death from coronavirus is 0.1% to 0.3% which is slightly higher than the seasonal flu.

Dr. Tony Fauci destroyed the US economy based on ridiculous models and phony predictions.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ance-death-elective-surgery-cornavirus-video/
 

Lanolin

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I think people arent ready for deaths in such numbers the reason being hospitals arent set up to deal with so many cases but we had plenty of warning now so it should be ok.

aside from that ordinary influenza cases are bad for many workplaces, cos obviously if you get sick you cant work anyway.

And while death is part of life, being sick isnt fun where you cant really live but you arent dead either.
 

Lanolin

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one thing that causes a lot of unnecessary deaths is bad driving, especially people that speed, often related to bad temper or alcohol consumption.
we can have all the safety features in our cars and vehicles, but if the driver loses concentration, thats not something that can be mitigated a lot of the time.

One thing is you do need a licence to drive, because someone who doesnt know how to handle a vehicle could cause a lot of deaths to innocent people.
and also if they crash into someone and they or other people die, if they dont have. alicense on them who can they donate their fresh organs to?

So that is why people need to have a license.
 

Lanolin

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most people dont die from just walking to and fro, but if you get into a moving vehicle you could possibly die in a head on collision going 100kms an hour.
 

Lanolin

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Parental indifference is the biggest killer worldwide, more so than all the plague epidemics combined.
Either through child abandonment, abortion, or neglect.
 

posthuman

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Essentially this is insanity over deaths, which are parallel to those from flu and pneumonia (and which did not even receive passing mention in the past). Which means that Wuhan virus was weaponized against the free world through a major conspiracy to destroy countries from within.
why should it necessarily logically follow from the fact of hysteria that the pandemic is a conspiratorial biological weapon purpose-built to wreak havoc on society and international trade all over the world, including the Chinese economy, which is also being devastated?
 

Nehemiah6

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why should it necessarily logically follow from the fact of hysteria that the pandemic is a conspiratorial biological weapon purpose-built to wreak havoc on society and international trade all over the world, including the Chinese economy, which is also being devastated?
Here's your answer:

Navarro: China Deliberately Allowed Coronavirus to Spread Outside Its Borders

During an interview broadcast on Friday’s edition of the Fox Business Network’s “WSJ at Large,” White House Trade Adviser Peter Navarro stated that China deliberately allowed the coronavirus to spread to the rest of the world and that the virus “could have been contained in Wuhan.”


Navarro said, “China hid the virus behind the shield of the World Health Organization, and that was a time, Gerry, when that virus could have been contained in Wuhan. Instead, what China did was put hundreds of thousands of Wuhanians and Chinese on planes that were allowed to go to Milan and New York and elsewhere, but not to Beijing and Shanghai.”

Host Gerry Baker asked Navarro if he was saying, “China, quite deliberately, shutting off some — a lot of domestic travel, but allowing international travel, quite deliberately knew how serious this was and allowed the virus to be exported, along with a lot of other Chinese exports to the United States and elsewhere?”
Navarro responded, “That’s a matter of fact. It should not be in dispute.”


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...ed-coronavirus-to-spread-outside-its-borders/

Also, China has now admitted that it deliberately destroyed coronavirus samples in the Wuhan lab. We also know that Chinese whistleblowers have all been eradicated in one way or another. We also know that China made sure that the WHO would spread Chinese disinformation about the virus.
 

Nehemiah6

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I think people arent ready for deaths in such numbers the reason being hospitals arent set up to deal with so many cases but we had plenty of warning now so it should be ok.
Actually even the number of those who would be hospitalized (or were hospitalized) was thoroughly distorted. The field hospitals set up by the military had to be disbanded for non-use, and the two Navy ships which were sent post-haste to New York and Los Angeles treated only a handful of patients.
 

posthuman

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Here's your answer:

Navarro: China Deliberately Allowed Coronavirus to Spread Outside Its Borders

During an interview broadcast on Friday’s edition of the Fox Business Network’s “WSJ at Large,” White House Trade Adviser Peter Navarro stated that China deliberately allowed the coronavirus to spread to the rest of the world and that the virus “could have been contained in Wuhan.”

Navarro said, “China hid the virus behind the shield of the World Health Organization, and that was a time, Gerry, when that virus could have been contained in Wuhan. Instead, what China did was put hundreds of thousands of Wuhanians and Chinese on planes that were allowed to go to Milan and New York and elsewhere, but not to Beijing and Shanghai.”

Host Gerry Baker asked Navarro if he was saying, “China, quite deliberately, shutting off some — a lot of domestic travel, but allowing international travel, quite deliberately knew how serious this was and allowed the virus to be exported, along with a lot of other Chinese exports to the United States and elsewhere?”
Navarro responded, “That’s a matter of fact. It should not be in dispute.”


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...ed-coronavirus-to-spread-outside-its-borders/

Also, China has now admitted that it deliberately destroyed coronavirus samples in the Wuhan lab. We also know that Chinese whistleblowers have all been eradicated in one way or another. We also know that China made sure that the WHO would spread Chinese disinformation about the virus.

This does not tell me that the fact the world panics means the virus has to be an artificially engineered bioweapon created and released with the singular purpose of crippling the entire worlds economy.

All it tells me us that you are spreading conspiracy theories.

The whole world was panicked over the Spanish flu 100 years ago. Does that mean it must have been the illuminati behind it?
 

Bingo

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This is just one opinion; however, he is a very distinguished Doctor, and yes, he did get the Nobel Prize in 2018.


Japan's Nobel Prize winning Professor of Medicine, Professor Dr Tasuku Honjo, created a sensation today by saying that the Coronavirus is not natural.
"If it is natural, it wouldn't have adversely affected the entire world like this. Because, as per nature, temperature is different in different countries. If it is natural, it would adversely affect only those countries having the same temperature as China. Instead, it is spreading in a country like Switzerland, in the same way it is spreading in the desert areas. Whereas if it were natural, it would have spread in cold places, but died in hot places.
I have done 40 years of research on animals and viruses. It is not natural. It is manufactured and the virus is completely artificial. I have worked for 4 years in the Wuhan laboratory in China. I am fully acquainted with all the staff of that laboratory. I have been phoning them all, after the Coronavirus surfaced. But all their phones are dead for the last 3 months. It is now understood that all these lab technicians have died.
Based on all my knowledge and research till date, I can say this with 100% confidence - That the Coronavirus is not natural. It did not come from bats. China manufactured it. If what I am saying today is proved false now or even after my death, the government can withdraw my Nobel Prize. China is lying and this truth will one day be revealed to everyone".


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Nehemiah6

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All it tells me us that you are spreading conspiracy theories.
When an actual conspiracy exists, it cannot be dismissed as a "conspiracy theory". No wonder there is so much confusion about this pandemic. The fact that a female Italian politician had the guts to publicly call for the arrest of Bill Gates recently (for crimes against humanity), while Trump has surrendered to Gates, should speak volumes.