Define Sin

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TosinAsLeader

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Ok, I have yet to find a full answer on this.

Define sin.

Now, did God create sin? Well the bible says 'sin was born.' What does this term mean?

If a baby is in the womb of its' mother, it is forming or being 'created,' into a human form. When it is born from its' mother, it has been created right? Is that the same thing with Adam and Eve? They gave birth to sin because of their immoral actions? So if this is true, than didn't God create sin? If God did not create sin, than who did? Doesn't that not make him Omnipotent; to want a relationship with his creatures if he created something that can prevent them from doing so? Which, ultimately, would send them to hell?
 

clarkthompson

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God did not create sin but did created freewill which lead to the first sin and sins today. Sin is doing anything outside God's will and not following the word. For people to not have the chose to obey God would be a lack of freewill.
 

starfield

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Ok, I have yet to find a full answer on this.

Define sin.

Now, did God create sin? Well the bible says 'sin was born.' What does this term mean?

If a baby is in the womb of its' mother, it is forming or being 'created,' into a human form. When it is born from its' mother, it has been created right? Is that the same thing with Adam and Eve? They gave birth to sin because of their immoral actions? So if this is true, than didn't God create sin? If God did not create sin, than who did? Doesn't that not make him Omnipotent; to want a relationship with his creatures if he created something that can prevent them from doing so? Which, ultimately, would send them to hell?
God is holy and did not create sin. He created Adam and Eve without sin but with the ability to choose good and evil however they chose to disobey His command and lost fellowship with Him. Also, just because He created beings with the capacity to sin doesn't mean He isn't omnipotent.
 

crossnote

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Sin as a state is separation from God.
Sin as an action is that which is not in conformity to God's nature/law.
Sin as an abstract idea is sin.
 
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TosinAsLeader

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Dallas Willard says this about what happened when Adam and Eve sinned: “In creating human beings in his likeness so that we could govern in his manner, God gave us a measure of independent power…In us some small part of the potential power in our body stands at the disposal of our conscious thought, intention, and choice…one of those specific human powers was the power to interact…But the death that befell Adam and Eve in the moment of their initial sin was also the death of this interactive relationship with God…” (Willard, pp. 53-54).

Read more: What is the ‘Sinful Nature’? A Bible Study


So God did create sin, am I wrong?
 
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TosinAsLeader

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God did not create sin but did created freewill which lead to the first sin and sins today. Sin is doing anything outside God's will and not following the word. For people to not have the chose to obey God would be a lack of freewill.
Than he did create sin. Why do we beat around the bush?
 
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TosinAsLeader

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God is holy and did not create sin. He created Adam and Eve without sin but with the ability to choose good and evil however they chose to disobey His command and lost fellowship with Him. Also, just because He created beings with the capacity to sin doesn't mean He isn't omnipotent.
Than he did create sin. Even IF He hates it, it is still here because of freewill it seems. So if he created freewill and sin is the half of freewill, than He creates sin.
 
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TosinAsLeader

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Sin as a state is separation from God.
Sin as an action is that which is not in conformity to God's nature/law.
Sin as an abstract idea is sin.
Because of freewill. That freewill leading to sin, which had to be create by something. Unless if everyone here believes in evolution?
 
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bleekerT

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The person who keeps on sinning is guilty of not obeying the Law of God. For sin is breaking the Law of God.

- 1Jn 3:4, New Life Version (NLV)



PAUL: Keep your minds awake! Stop sinning. Some do not know God at all. I say this to your shame.

- 1Cor. 15:34, New Life Version (NLV)



PAUL: Just to hear the Law does not make a man right with God. The man right with God is the one who obeys the Law. - Rom. 2:13, NLV


Now we can do everything the law requires. Our sinful nature no longer controls the way we live. The Holy Spirit now controls the way we live. -

Romans 8:4, New International Reader's Version (NIRV)
 
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TosinAsLeader

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The person who keeps on sinning is guilty of not obeying the Law of God. For sin is breaking the Law of God.

- 1Jn 3:4, New Life Version (NLV)



PAUL: Keep your minds awake! Stop sinning. Some do not know God at all. I say this to your shame.

- 1Cor. 15:34, New Life Version (NLV)



PAUL: Just to hear the Law does not make a man right with God. The man right with God is the one who obeys the Law. - Rom. 2:13, NLV


Now we can do everything the law requires. Our sinful nature no longer controls the way we live. The Holy Spirit now controls the way we live. -

Romans 8:4, New International Reader's Version (NIRV)

REQUOTE:

Ok, I have yet to find a full answer on this.

Define sin.

Now, did God create sin? Well the bible says 'sin was born.' What does this term mean?

If a baby is in the womb of its' mother, it is forming or being 'created,' into a human form. When it is born from its' mother, it has been created right? Is that the same thing with Adam and Eve? They gave birth to sin because of their immoral actions? So if this is true, than didn't God create sin? If God did not create sin, than who did? Doesn't that not make him Omnipotent; to want a relationship with his creatures if he created something that can prevent them from doing so? Which, ultimately, would send them to hell?
Thank you
 
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I´m not sure if these would serve, but I leave them for you to read:

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