ISIS is run by whom and why, that is the million dollar question?

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kaylagrl

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Israel ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports
Sunday Feb 16, 2014
Ukrainian media have reported that a former Israeli army officer is playing a leading role in the anti-government protests in the former Soviet republic.
Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev.
***Mossad spying and undercover ops World Trade Center attack****The WE News Archives**

Mossad Agent
was an agent of the Israeli Mossad who was seen in MTAC, witnessing an operation that Mossad Officer Ziva David had acquired intel for.
Mossad Agent - NCIS Database - Wikia

Nov 4, 2014 - The Islamic State group is the creation of Israel's Mossad, Iran's deputy foreign minister said Tuesday, accusing the spy agency of aiming to ...
Senior Iran Official: Israel's Mossad Created ISIS - Middle East - Haaretz

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria - Middle East - Jerusalem Post

Isis
claims responsibility for Texas attack
No evidence Islamic State had actual hand in attack as details emerge about would-be gunmen Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi
Isis claims responsibility for Texas attack | US news | The Guardian

ISIS is run by whom and why, that is the million dollar question?​


So the Jews are to blame? There's a new idea.:( Ya,I really hope thats not what you're trying to say.
 
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Mitspa

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I don't often claim that folks seem to have a racist bent ...I think that card is way overplayed ...but I think much or this is just racial and religious bigotry.
 
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kaylagrl

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No, not at all. There are over 6,000,000 Jews living in the USA and they are happy campers loving every day along with the rest of us as "Americans"

There is a big difference between being a "Jew" and an Israeli. I hope you can see the difference tooo


I'd appreciate if you'd tell me the difference.
 
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Israel ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports
Sunday Feb 16, 2014
Ukrainian media have reported that a former Israeli army officer is playing a leading role in the anti-government protests in the former Soviet republic.
Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev.
***Mossad spying and undercover ops World Trade Center attack****The WE News Archives**

Mossad Agent
was an agent of the Israeli Mossad who was seen in MTAC, witnessing an operation that Mossad Officer Ziva David had acquired intel for.
Mossad Agent - NCIS Database - Wikia

Nov 4, 2014 - The Islamic State group is the creation of Israel's Mossad, Iran's deputy foreign minister said Tuesday, accusing the spy agency of aiming to ...
Senior Iran Official: Israel's Mossad Created ISIS - Middle East - Haaretz

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria - Middle East - Jerusalem Post

Isis
claims responsibility for Texas attack
No evidence Islamic State had actual hand in attack as details emerge about would-be gunmen Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi
Isis claims responsibility for Texas attack | US news | The Guardian

ISIS is run by whom and why, that is the million dollar question?​
Yo, crazy guy. There is a conspiracy forum just for crazy people like yourself. Better yet, take your psychiatric meds and stay off your computer.
 

p_rehbein

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I also understand that Ziva David was spotted leading an ISIS raid against Afghani forces as well............
 

crossnote

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No, not at all. There are over 6,000,000 Jews living in the USA and they are happy campers loving every day along with the rest of us as "Americans"

There is a big difference between being a "Jew" and an Israeli. I hope you can see the difference tooo
Yes, it's the new form of anti-semitism. "Jews are cool but Israelis must go".
 

Angela53510

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I thought this was an interesting FB post I saw today. I wonder how many Arab leaders are wishing the world, "Merry Christmas"

"I wish Christians in Israel and all over the world a very merry Christmas.

Christmas is a special opportunity to spend time with loved ones and to celebrate this most festive of holidays. And as you gather with your families and your friends to celebrate this Christmas and as you enjoy the blessings of the New Year, I am sure you will remember those who are less fortunate because Christian communities across the Middle East are experiencing a particularly difficult time. They experience violence, persecution and fear. This has become the daily staple of Christian communities throughout the Middle East. Not so in here in Israel, the one exception. Because here in Israel, religious freedom is a sacred principle. Israel's Christian citizens enjoy the full blessings of freedom and democracy, their equal rights enshrined in Israeli law.

So on this most important day in the Christian calendar, let us remember the common heritage and values that unite us in the face of extremism and hatred, which we will never accept.

From Jerusalem, the eternal capital of the Jewish people, the city of peace, I join Christians everywhere, and especially those in the Middle East, in a common prayer for a more peaceful and tolerant world.

Merry Christmas and a happy New Year!"

https://www.facebook.com/IsraeliPM/videos/997775993570479/?pnref=story
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Israel ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports
Sunday Feb 16, 2014
Ukrainian media have reported that a former Israeli army officer is playing a leading role in the anti-government protests in the former Soviet republic.
Four other Israelis, who had previously served in the army, were recently reported to have taken part in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev.
***Mossad spying and undercover ops World Trade Center attack****The WE News Archives**

Mossad Agent
was an agent of the Israeli Mossad who was seen in MTAC, witnessing an operation that Mossad Officer Ziva David had acquired intel for.
Mossad Agent - NCIS Database - Wikia

Nov 4, 2014 - The Islamic State group is the creation of Israel's Mossad, Iran's deputy foreign minister said Tuesday, accusing the spy agency of aiming to ...
Senior Iran Official: Israel's Mossad Created ISIS - Middle East - Haaretz

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria

Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria - Middle East - Jerusalem Post

Isis
claims responsibility for Texas attack
No evidence Islamic State had actual hand in attack as details emerge about would-be gunmen Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi
Isis claims responsibility for Texas attack | US news | The Guardian

ISIS is run by whom and why, that is the million dollar question?​
one of your links is referencing a fictional character in a fictional tv drama...

but in all fairness this is fully on par with conspiracist 'research' in general...sloppy even by junior high school standards...
 
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kaylagrl

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Yes, it's the new form of anti-semitism. "Jews are cool but Israelis must go".

Ya,no matter how you wrap it its anti-semitism. I doubt we'll see the OP back again to defend his foolishness.We shall see.
 

crossnote

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Ya,no matter how you wrap it its anti-semitism. I doubt we'll see the OP back again to defend his foolishness.We shall see.
I think somewhere he said he'd be back Monday.
 

Desdichado

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Typically, those who despise Israel also have a thing against Jews worldwide. Most Jews support Israel as a nation state and view it as their home and birthright, promised but also earned and maintained by vigilance, struggle and sacrifice.

It's not unusual to find American Jews cross the pond to join the IDF.

While it is theoretically possible to love the Jewish people but hate Israel, it is hard for one to maintain that position convincingly.
 

Desdichado

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As for the OP, I find those sources pretty suspect. Mostly because we know that most of what comes out of Russia is what the former KGB operatives and resource oligarchs want you to believe.
 

prove-all

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No, not at all. There are over 6,000,000 Jews living in the USA and they are happy campers loving every day along with the rest of us as "Americans"

There is a big difference between being a "Jew" and an Israeli. I hope you can see the difference tooo

I hope you know the current [state of Israel] is not the [house of Israel]
 

prove-all

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On June 29, 2014 -the first day of the Islamic month of Ramadan, the Islamic State of Iraq
and Syria (isis) declared its formation of a “caliphate” and consequently renamed itself the
Islamic State, to indicate its new status.

In a statement released in English, Arabic, German, French and Russian, the former isis
asserted that the region that’s now under its control—northwestern Iraq all the way up
to northern Syria—is now an Islamic “caliphate” under the group’s leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi.
The expectation is that that territory will expand beyond Iraq and Syria, hence the dropping of
those two nations from its name.

A caliphate is an Islamic republic transcending national boundaries and ruled by a supreme,
politico-religious leader.

By this declaration, Baghdadi is now “the imam and [Caliph] for the Muslims everywhere,”
as the group’s spokesman said in the statement. That means all Muslims, jihadists or otherwise,
must now pledge their allegiance to the Islamic State and Caliph Baghdadi, the statement qualified.

“The legality of all emirates, groups, states and organizations,” said the spokesman, “becomes null by
the expansion of the [Caliph’s] authority and arrival of its troops to their areas.”

That’s pretty brazen talk. Charles Lister, Visiting Fellow at the Brookings Doha Center, assessed that
the declaration is “likely the most significant development in international jihadism since 9/11.”
It’s a call to Islamic unity.

The pronouncement is a dare to fellow jihadists from a militia disowned by al Qaeda in February
for being “too hardline.” But it’s also a declaration of war to Islamic nations that won’t capitulate
to the Islamic State.

Map: The Islamic State’s Claimed Caliphate
https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/iraq-examining-professed-caliphate
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After winning the border in Iraq, ISIS unites with Syria al Qaeda unit
After winning the border in Iraq, ISIS unites with Syria al Qaeda unit | News | DW.COM | 25.06.2014

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ISIS Risks Everything to Declare a Caliphate
ISIS Risks Everything to Declare a Caliphate - The Daily Beast#

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ISIS Declaration of Caliphate: Strategy or Blunder?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...-declaration-of-caliphate-strategy-or-blunder
 
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prove-all

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some info on Muhammad-Islam

-Islam-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam
-Muhammad-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith

Believed by Muslims and Bahá'ís to be a messenger and prophet of God,
Muhammad is almost universally considered by Muslims as the last prophet sent by God to mankind.

-Quran-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran
the central religious text of Islam, which Muslims believe to be a revelation from God

Muslims believe the Quran was verbally revealed by God to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel..
gradually over a period of approximately 23 years, beginning on 22 December 609 CE,[5]
when Muhammad was 40, and concluding in 632 CE, the year of his death

The earliest documented Christian knowledge of Muhammad stems from Byzantine sources.
They indicate that both Jews and Christians saw Muhammad as a "false prophet" and he is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Muhammad

-Sharia law- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

Sharia Law is a significant source of legislation in various Muslim countries,
namely Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Brunei, United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

There are two primary sources of sharia law: the precepts set forth in the Quranic verses (ayat),
and the example set by the Islamic prophet Muhammad in the Sunnah

-(Sunni) and (Shia) Islam are the two major denominations of Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_schools_and_branches

Both Sunni and Shia Muslims share the most fundamental Islamic beliefs and articles of faith.
The differences between these two main sub-groups within Islam initially stemmed not
from spiritual differences, but political ones.

The division between Shia and Sunni dates back to the death of the Prophet Muhammad,
and the question of who was to take over the leadership of the Muslim nation.

Sunni Muslims agree with the position taken by many of the Prophet's companions,
that the new leader should be elected from among those capable of the job.

This is what was done, and the Prophet Muhammad's close friend and advisor,
Abu Bakr, became the first Caliph of the Islamic nation.

The word "Sunni" in Arabic comes from a word meaning "
one who follows the traditions of the Prophet."

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunni_Islam
Sunni Islam (/'su?ni/ or /'s?ni/) is the largest branch of Islam

adherents are known as Sunni Muslims, Sunnis, and Sunnites.
Sunni Islam is the world's second largest religious body (after Christianity)[2]
and the largest religious denomination for any religion in the world. Sunni Islam
is sometimes referred to as the orthodox version of the religion

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam

The Shia (/'?i??/; Arabic: ???? Shi?ah), or the Shiites (/'?i?a?ts/),
represent the second largest denomination of Islam.
Adherents of Shia Islam are called Shias or the Shi'a as a collective or Shi'i individually.

[1] Shi'a is the short form of the historic phrase Shi?atu ?Ali (???? ???)
meaning "followers", "faction" or "party" of

Muhammad's son-in-law and (cousin Ali), whom the Shia believe to be Muhammad's
successor in (the Caliphate)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

-Twelver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver_Shia
The term Twelver refers to its adherents' belief in twelve divinely ordained leaders,
known as the Twelve Imams, and

their belief that the Mahdi will be the returned Twelfth Imam who disappeared and
is believed by Twelvers to be in occultation.

-King Abdullah’s Death Fulfills ‘End-Time Prophecies,’ Say Shiites
https://www.thetrumpet.com/…/king-abdullahs-death-fulfills-…

-Most Twelvers are in Iran. The cia World Factbook says 90 to 95 percent of Iran’s
81 million people identify as Shiite, and around 85 percent of those adhere to Twelver Shiism.
https://www.cia.gov/…/publi…/the-world-factbook/geos/ir.html

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the patriarch of Iran’s Islamic Revolution, was a Twelver,
as is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the current supreme leader in Iran.

-In 2012, Khamenei told the people of Iran: “We must prepare for the coming.

Since we consider ourselves the warriors of the 12th imam, we must fight.
Under the leadership of God, and with his invisible Power,
we will restore the glory of Islamic Civilization.”

As Joel Rosenberg, former aide to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said,

n order to bring about this Islamic messiah, the Mahdi, the 12th imam, Islamic leaders
need to hasten his coming by destroying little Satan, Israel, and the great Satan, the United States. …

Today it pits Iran and Shiites of Iraq, Lebanon, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia against
the Sunnis of the Middle East. The disgust of Iranian leaders with the Little Satan (Israel)
is only exceeded by their disgust for the Great Satan (America).

-current Shia–Sunni relations
Difference Between Kurds and Shiites
http://www.differencebetween.net/…/differences-between-kur…/

-In Britain, the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal makes use of sharia family law to
settle disputes, and this limited adoption of sharia is controversial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Arbitration_Tribunal

-http://islam.uga.edu/countries.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/w…/List_of_Muslim-majority_countries
http://www.thecountriesof.com/top-10-countries-with-larges…/

-http://cnsnews.com/…/9-10-worst-countries-persecution-chris…
https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-pe…/world-watch-list/

-January 2011 -http://www.theguardian.com/…/muslim-population-country-proj…