Major misconception: What is legalism and what's not legalism.

[Elin]

Well, now that I'm been reminded of the Scriptural location of the incident in question, there are several things to note about it:

First of all, Paul was exercising his principle of Ro 14:1-8--regarding those whose faith was weak in their fondness for the shadows when the substance/reality of the shadows had come--in not commanding that Jews abandon the ceremonial law, including food sacrificed to idols.

yes, it seems that Paul and James don't tell Jewish believers not to keep the law...

Yes, they accommodated the weak faith of those with a fondness for the shadows in the law when the reality of them was now here. . .

 

[Elin]

What does Paul himself state in 1Co 9:19-20?

What do you think he is saying?

Precisely what his words state.

 

[Elin]

What did I alter?

"(Gal 3:10) is saying that everyone who tries to be justified by the law apart from Christ is cursed,"

 

[Elin]

You're speak as if Jewish is just a religion.

That would be assumption on your part.

 

[Elin]

and as yahshua says, everyone who is grafted in is Jewish, everyone who is a Jew inwardly is a Jew, not those who are Jewish outwardly are all, and likewise all who are circumcized of heart, not of the flesh.

so simple when yahweh says so and does it.

The olive tree of God's one people, the body of Christ, included only descendants of Abraham until the time of Christ, when it also included Gentiles, where no distinction is made between them (Gal 3:26-29), all are one in Christ and on the same footing with God.

 

[Elin]

my point in the post was about Jewish believers keeping the law... are you saying that Jewish believers were or weren't keeping the law? or something else?

I am saying
"Nor did the regulations Paul took to Antioch include prohibition of unclean foods according to the Mosaic law" and nothing more.

 

[Dan_473]

Not all who descended from Judah are Jewish.

true! but I think most of the people we call "Jews" today are decended from Judah...

 

[Dan_473]

I am saying
"Nor did the regulations Paul took to Antioch include prohibition of unclean foods according to the Mosaic law" and nothing more.

hmm, I can't figure out how it relates to what I was talking about... I'll have to consider it as a 'does not follow' case... unless you want to explain more, (and please do)... blessings!

 

[Elin]

Not all who descended from Judah are truly Jewish.

true! but I think most of the people we call "Jews" today are decended from Judah...

True, but not all who descended from Judah are truly Jewish

 

[Dan_473]

True, but not all who descended from Judah are truly Jewish

what word do you use for those folks who go to synagogues, and the more zealous ones have those strange haircuts?

 

[Elin]

True, but not all who descended from Judah are truly Jewish.

what word do you use for those folks who go to synagogues, and the more zealous ones have those strange haircuts?

Don't know any. . .don't have any word. . ."folks" works for me.

 

[Dan_473]

Don't know any. . .don't have any word. . ."folks" works for me.

how about the people who go to mosques, and try to make pilgrimages to mecca... do you have any word for them?

 

[Dan_473]

Don't know any. . .don't have any word. . ."folks" works for me.

also, of course, it's fine if you don't want to have a word for a people group... myself, I think it aids in communication...

for example, most of the world will understand this: 'about six million people died in WW II in Nazi concentration camps, most of them Jews'...
if we just say 'folks', most people will wonder what the characteristics of the killed ones were... or if it was just random...

 

[Elin]

also, of course, it's fine if you don't want to have a word for a people group... myself, I think it aids in communication...

for example, most of the world will understand this: 'about six million people died in WW II in Nazi concentration camps, most of them Jews'...
if we just say 'folks', most people will wonder what the characteristics of the killed ones were... or if it was just random...

Agreed. . .

 

[Pumicestone]

We execute certain criminals today in much the same way Israel did then.......

True, there is still a handful of barbaric countries which impose the death penalty.