Pornography and Standards of Beauty

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Hi everyone, I have kind of a touchy subject to broach and a heart hurt to unburden.

I have mentioned on here before that the person that I like is also my churches youth and young adult pastor. This is something I have currently surrendered to God to do with what He may, and have gone on living my life and being a friend where I can be.

This weekend our Young Adults group attended a Defend Dignity talk, an iniciative by the Alliance church to help stop prostitution and help the people involved leave that lifestyle and find meaningful and fulfilling lives. Afterwards we went coffee so we could all talk. Through a series of conversations we ended up talking about pornography and whether it was an addiction or not. Pastor opened up that when he was younger that pornography was something that he had struggled with, but through the grace of God he had overcome.

I whole heartedly believe that it is no longer a problem for him, and trust that this is information that our head pastor is aware of, that for me is not the issue. If God can forgive him for that, and if God has helped him to overcome it, then I am more then willing to forgive him.

My issue comes up in a matter of now feeling incredibly undesireable. I am overweight, and have been for a long time, self esteem is something I have been struggling with my entire life. I have taken great steps in the last year thanks to friends and hard work, and have even lost 15lb in the last month. But hearing what he had to say made me feel so very unattractive. I know that the women in those videos/photographs are unrealistic portrayals of beauty, and not something everyone could/should attempt to achieve. But knowing that it was something he once openly lusted after, and struggled to stop lusting after, its just a shot to the gut.

This is not a dig for compliments or ego stroking, I just want advice for how to move forward. I still like him, and admire him for overcoming something so hard, and for going on to pursue God whole heartedly with his vocation. Is this something I should even be worried about?

I will obviously be doing a lot of praying, and meditating on this and would appreciate if you would too.
 
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As a girl who used to watch porn before I became a Christian, I can honestly say 90% of the girls in porn are genuinely heinous looking. They are not VS models or celebrities. They look straggily, anorexic, dirty, and like they're on crack. I'm sure many are. I know this is a shallow answer, but its true. Girls who do porn are NOT attractive.
 
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Continue doing what you are doing. It seems what you have here is a confidence issue more than anything, so things such as his past struggle against porno, the fact he might prefer certain types of cheese over others, or his musical preference might be regarded as a disadvantage to you.

Trust me, I'm a hypochondriac. ;)

Just keep fighting the good fight and talking with him. If the fact you are X-weight is bothering you, continue to lose the pounds.
 
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Jullianna

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LOL! You beat me to it, LadySpeedStick. :) You have absolutely nothing to feel insecure about. I've had to/have to view porn at times because of my job (it's often evidentiary). There is nothing beautiful about those women.
 
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I whole heartedly agree. It's not the right kinda attraction when it comes to porn. It's lust and its vile, dirty, and shallow. A good women who loves God and respects her body is faaaaaar more attractive then the harlots.

Your reflecting the WORLDS standard for beauty. It stands no chance against Godly beauty.
 
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Jullianna

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Continue doing what you are doing. It seems what you have here is a confidence issue more than anything, so things such as his past struggle against porno, the fact he might prefer certain types of cheese over others, or his musical preference might be regarded as a disadvantage to you.

Trust me, I'm a hypochondriac. ;)

Just keep fighting the good fight and talking with him. If the fact you are X-weight is bothering you, continue to lose the pounds.
BAHAHAHAHAAHA!
 
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See, according to Jullianna and Ladyspeedstick you have a leg up on ladies in porn! There is some incentive to keep going!
 
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Hava91

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Lol well I was going to comment, but everything I wanted to say has been said! haha.....just keep going, doing what you are doing, and try to ignore those insecurities. (hey, at least having insecurities is better than being overly vain! =p )
 
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dishchat

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The beauty of a woman is not her physical look. The intelligent man do not care about.
But beauty of a woman is : proverb ch 31 vs 10-31
 
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Hi everyone, I have kind of a touchy subject to broach and a heart hurt to unburden.

I have mentioned on here before that the person that I like is also my churches youth and young adult pastor. This is something I have currently surrendered to God to do with what He may, and have gone on living my life and being a friend where I can be.

This weekend our Young Adults group attended a Defend Dignity talk, an iniciative by the Alliance church to help stop prostitution and help the people involved leave that lifestyle and find meaningful and fulfilling lives. Afterwards we went coffee so we could all talk. Through a series of conversations we ended up talking about pornography and whether it was an addiction or not. Pastor opened up that when he was younger that pornography was something that he had struggled with, but through the grace of God he had overcome.

I whole heartedly believe that it is no longer a problem for him, and trust that this is information that our head pastor is aware of, that for me is not the issue. If God can forgive him for that, and if God has helped him to overcome it, then I am more then willing to forgive him.

My issue comes up in a matter of now feeling incredibly undesireable. I am overweight, and have been for a long time, self esteem is something I have been struggling with my entire life. I have taken great steps in the last year thanks to friends and hard work, and have even lost 15lb in the last month. But hearing what he had to say made me feel so very unattractive. I know that the women in those videos/photographs are unrealistic portrayals of beauty, and not something everyone could/should attempt to achieve. But knowing that it was something he once openly lusted after, and struggled to stop lusting after, its just a shot to the gut.

This is not a dig for compliments or ego stroking, I just want advice for how to move forward. I still like him, and admire him for overcoming something so hard, and for going on to pursue God whole heartedly with his vocation. Is this something I should even be worried about?

I will obviously be doing a lot of praying, and meditating on this and would appreciate if you would too.
I was going to post some things and be brutally honest about this whole issue, but something told me not to so I won't. From what I've read so far though, it looks like people are just being nice and telling you what you want to hear.
 
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I was going to post some things and be brutally honest about this whole issue, but something told me not to so I won't. From what I've read so far though, it looks like people are just being nice and telling you what you want to hear.
Honestly, I am really glad that everyone is being so encouraging. But I dont want that to stop you from voiceing your opinions.

I want to hear the truth, whether is nice or not.
 
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Honestly, I am really glad that everyone is being so encouraging. But I dont want that to stop you from voiceing your opinions.

I want to hear the truth, whether is nice or not.
Actually the truth is not that bad, but I had a strong feeling that God did not want me to post about it. I was going to reveal some things about my past.
 
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Actually the truth is not that bad, but I had a strong feeling that God did not want me to post about it. I was going to reveal some things about my past.
Thanks for being honest, and trusting in God to guide your words.
 
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OK, I can say this much...

The truth is that most women struggle with weight and the ones who are slim and attractive struggle with too much unwanted attention, so you're actually in the majority. I've struggled with weight most of my life too so I can definitely sympathize with you.

You have to realize that when it comes to fantasizing about the opposite sex, both men and women will usually picture someone with a perfect body...BUT that doesn't mean they can't find someone attractive who does not have a perfect body.
 
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The trouble is how do you define "perfect body?"

Some guys I know like chubby girls. Are they rarer, yes, but they still exist.

Then there are gentlemen like myself who don't know what they like, lol.
 
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the majority of women in porn are disgusting, both looks and historywise, so if i were you i wouldnt feel too worried. Besides looks might not matter as much to him as you think. I know women who have what i find to be terrible tastes in music move farther down the list than others.